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About every canadian on this forum in previous tournaments when u got away with exactly everything that gave other countries free tickets to the penalty box. You get just what you deserve now.
Rofl so Canada got preferential treatment? Hate to break it to you but no one believes this tin foil conspiracy theory crap.
Another just wtf pointless call was that call on Ritchie (I think) for a weak poke at the goalie just as the whistle gets blown. Like just let em play!
Can we get some NA refs for Canada/USA game ?
Exactly.
The IIHF refs have had their chance and they have failed.
This reminds me of the NFL reffing situation in many ways.
I think the IIHF's line of reffing is pretty well-thought-out. It's junior hockey and you don't want anyone's career to be over when you're under 20 years old.
I am not sure I understand how people are saying that the Camara hit was clean. Yes the guy had his head down, but the initial point of contact was the head. The reason they put that rule in is to prevent these types of injuries than can not only put a player out of the game, but ruin the rest of their life. Yes it sucks, but at the end of the day you can not hit a guy in the head like that.
I think the IIHF's line of reffing is pretty well-thought-out. It's junior hockey and you don't want anyone's career to be over when you're under 20 years old.
So what happens when they turn 21, start playing professionally, and get hurt even worse 'cause they can't handle getting hit?
Funny northamericans have stubbornly debated for years how the iihf refs are fine, first year in forever u dont get special treatment to get away with ur crap and ur whining?
Justice is a wonderful thing
You're new to this, aren't you. Horrible/inconsistent officiating has plagued the tournament for decades.
With that said the Camera play reminded me a ton of the Kronwall hit on Havlat, where he got the gate for KOing him in the playoffs a couple years ago. Sometimes even the NHL refs let it get away from them looking at the end result. The real key will be if they follow it up with a suspension which would just be awful.
Lipon's hit is a dirty hit and he deserves whatever comes. That gets called in the CHL, AHL, and NHL.
The ticky tack calls are always going to be there. It is unfortunate but the players know that going in and need to be careful.
Screw this. Im going to work where I work with real men who will be on my side about this atrocity of a tournament where playing with your head down is rewarded.
Screw this. Im going to work where I work with real men who will be on my side about this atrocity of a tournament where playing with your head down is rewarded.
The Euros are so bad for playing their head down. Anyone (Canadian players included) deserve to get hit hard if their heads are down. If you get a concussion than keep your head up next time.
Really, in what manner?
I recall swedes making threads just like this in the past to complain about the refs and not only were the threads removed they also recieved infractions. Now when the table is turned we're seeing the pitiful double moral of this.
The problem is not the refs. Camara's penalty was completely called by the rulebook. Blaming the refs misses the point. It's the rulebook that is the issue. If you really want to make the point, start criticizing the rules in place, not those whose job it is to call the action by the rules.
I have no problems with headshots being a penalty. What Lipon did earlier in the game was an absolute penalty and is something that should be against the rules. What Camara did, on the other hand, is a textbook example of a good hit: arms down, feet on the ice, less than 3 strides and no particular targeting of any body part. That's a hit to the chest, not a headshot. The fact that the player had his head down and in front of his body is the only reason there's head contact, and is not Camara's fault at all. That should not be a penalty.
For those claiming that the purpose of the rule is to prevent injuries, it's a physical game. Injuries like that are going to happen no matter what. Injuries on good hits where the player puts himself in a bad position are bad, but they're part of the game. There's no good reason to make that a penalty except to remove physicality, much more so than headshot rules like the CHL and NHL have as they penalize a particular style of hitting (arms up, headhunting, etc). As a person who hates blaming the victim on legitimately bad hits like hits from behind and headhunting, I don't want to see any rules that remove physicality with no targeting towards a particular body part.
Maybe if Europe wants to get on Canada's level and actual be able to compete with us in the NHL they need to start learning for themselves how to play the game the right way.
Theres no NHL refs to change your diapers for you over here..
It was last time to, or your saying it's only in this years tourny it's warranted? When your the victim? You just admit that your biased writing like that.