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01-03-2013, 11:49 AM
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Steve Fehr and a handful of players and NHLPA staff have arrived at the NHL office.
So it begins.......................... lets end it boys

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why not:
1. make the cap gap at 44-65 mil
2. allow the 44 mil and under clubs to offer up 7yr (or 8) deals
3. allow the 65 mil cappers only 5 yr (or 6) max offers

when a star player hits UFA:
NYR PHI etc. can offer 7 mil for 5 yrs = 35 mil. (or 6 yrs = 42mil)
MIN NAS etc. can offer 5 mil for 7 yrs = 35 mil. (or 8 yrs = 40mil)

salaries per season would be relative to team payrolls - not comparable to similar players on other teams.
MLB saw bautista and longoria offered considerably less per season with teams with (at the time) small market payrolls as an example - were as NYY or LA would have given 20-25 mil a yr to.
Contracts should be up to the players to decide.

If Columbus wants to pay their star max money for max term why should they be denied?

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01-03-2013, 11:57 AM
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So it begins.......................... lets end it boys
I think today is the day. My gut tells me they are going to announce an agreement tonight.

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01-03-2013, 12:02 PM
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I think today is the day. My gut tells me they are going to announce an agreement tonight.
Not sure they can get a cap agreement today.

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01-03-2013, 12:07 PM
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lets see...you could say:
under 44 mil teams can offer up to 7 ys
45-55 mil teams can offer up to 6 yrs
56 + mil teams can offer up to 5 yrs

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01-03-2013, 01:11 PM
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so wtf is happening there?

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01-03-2013, 02:39 PM
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How i would love to see the crappy market money losing teams fail after the lockout Bettman gets fired and then contraction to 20 teams with 2 divisions of 10 teams top 8 teams in each division make the playoffs a far superior financially stronger NHL with a vastly improved on ice product...

Original 6:
1.Toronto
2.Montreal
3.Detroit
4.New York
5.Boston
6.Chicago

67 Original Expansion Teams:
7.Philadelphia
8.Pittsburgh
9.Los Angeles
10.St Louis
11.Minnesota (North Stars)

Next 9 Strongest Teams:
12.Vancouver
13.Buffalo
14.Calgary
15.Edmonton
16.Washington
17.Ottawa
18.Winnipeg
19.Quebec
20.TBD?

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01-03-2013, 02:59 PM
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lets see...you could say:
under 44 mil teams can offer up to 7 ys
45-55 mil teams can offer up to 6 yrs
56 + mil teams can offer up to 5 yrs
So the Leafs could offer up to 7 years because they'll be at around 42 million next year?

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01-03-2013, 03:01 PM
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How i would love to see the crappy market money losing teams fail after the lockout Bettman gets fired and then contraction to 20 teams with 2 divisions of 10 teams top 8 teams in each division make the playoffs a far superior financially stronger NHL with a vastly improved on ice product...

Original 6:
1.Toronto
2.Montreal
3.Detroit
4.New York
5.Boston
6.Chicago

67 Original Expansion Teams:
7.Philadelphia
8.Pittsburgh
9.Los Angeles
10.St Louis
11.Minnesota (North Stars)

Next 9 Strongest Teams:
12.Vancouver
13.Buffalo
14.Calgary
15.Edmonton
16.Washington
17.Ottawa
18.Winnipeg
19.Quebec
20.TBD?
THIS, THIS, THIS!!! I'd die a happy man.

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01-03-2013, 03:03 PM
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How i would love to see the crappy market money losing teams fail after the lockout Bettman gets fired and then contraction to 20 teams with 2 divisions of 10 teams top 8 teams in each division make the playoffs a far superior financially stronger NHL with a vastly improved on ice product...

Original 6:
1.Toronto
2.Montreal
3.Detroit
4.New York
5.Boston
6.Chicago

67 Original Expansion Teams:
7.Philadelphia
8.Pittsburgh
9.Los Angeles
10.St Louis
11.Minnesota (North Stars)

Next 9 Strongest Teams:
12.Vancouver
13.Buffalo
14.Calgary
15.Edmonton
16.Washington
17.Ottawa
18.Winnipeg
19.Quebec
20.TBD?
The players will never allow that many jobs to be lost.

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01-03-2013, 03:28 PM
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The players will never allow that many jobs to be lost.
Well if the club fail and go Bankrupt, can't the league just shut it down?

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Well if the club fail and go Bankrupt, can't the league just shut it down?
No idea. I would think that the Players would strike if the League tried to axe 1/3rd of their jobs.

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No idea. I would think that the Players would strike if the League tried to axe 1/3rd of their jobs.
I was reading somewhere that contraction, just like expansion doesn't need to be negotiated.

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I was reading somewhere that contraction, just like expansion doesn't need to be negotiated.
If so then the Players would definately strike.

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NHL-NHLPA will meet later today, but not yet. NHLPA holding internal meetings this morning.

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Another detail emerging: NHL has upped its compliance buyout offer to 2 per team, up from 1 prior to 2013-14 season.

does this mean we could buyout 2 players ? (connolly and lombardi)
re-read the tweet you posted, the compliance buyouts wont happen before the up coming shorten season if they have one. they will happen next summer, as the cap will be staying at 70 mill this season then dropping for 2013-2014 season. and at that point both Lombadri and Connolly will be off the books so the only notable guy we might buyout would be Komi.

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If so then the Players would definately strike.
How's that? Who is supposed to pay the bills if nobody wants to?

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I was reading somewhere that contraction, just like expansion doesn't need to be negotiated.
How could a Union stop a business from going out of business? Thats absolutely ridiculous. If the NHL contracts, the players cant do squat about it. I have lost my job 3 times in the last 5 years. Suck it up NHLPA....thats the modern economy. As for the fans....contraction is the best thing that can possibly happen, IMO...but like some have stated..not an easy sell...especially with Buttman at the helm.

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How's that? Who is supposed to pay the bills if nobody wants to?
Players striking...gives the NHL the right to use replacement players and break the union. Bring it.

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How's that? Who is supposed to pay the bills if nobody wants to?
You've lost me.

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I don't think anything extreme will happen if 4 teams go, but I doubt GB will let it happen.

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I don't think anything extreme will happen if 4 teams go, but I doubt GB will let it happen.
I doubt it as well.

The post I had responded to suggested cutting 10 Teams.

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re-read the tweet you posted, the compliance buyouts wont happen before the up coming shorten season if they have one. they will happen next summer, as the cap will be staying at 70 mill this season then dropping for 2013-2014 season. and at that point both Lombadri and Connolly will be off the books so the only notable guy we might buyout would be Komi.
right
i noticed that
not for this season but next
well there's komi and .... liles
buy em out in the summer

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Another detail emerging: NHL has upped its compliance buyout offer to 2 per team, up from 1 prior to 2013-14 season.

does this mean we could buyout 2 players ? (connolly and lombardi)
Komisarek and Liles. Connolly and Lombardi are are gone anyways.

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Komisarek and Liles. Connolly and Lombardi are are gone anyways.
Keep em.

Lets buy out some poor team's players for draft picks and prospects.

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