HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > International Tournaments
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

International Tournaments Discuss international tournaments such as the World Juniors, Olympic hockey, and Ice Hockey World Championships, as they take place; or discuss past tournaments.

Anyone else just not care...

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
12-26-2012, 06:57 AM
  #1
CaptBrannigan
Registered User
 
CaptBrannigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Tampa
Country: United States
Posts: 2,989
vCash: 500
Anyone else just not care...

...about the WJCs, or under-20 tournament (as the rest of the world calls it)? I'll try again this year, but I just don't get the love. I never understood how this tournament seems to take precedence over the real WCs.

I don't know, maybe it's the sloppy play, or any of a number of factors, but this time of year I always feel terribly underwhelmed by it. I'm also interested that it seems to be a hockey-only phenomena, the "junior" World Cups that FIFA puts on aren't nearly as hyped and those are only every 4 years.

Only one who feels like this?

CaptBrannigan is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 08:24 AM
  #2
jekoh
Registered User
 
jekoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,427
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptBrannigan View Post
...about the WJCs, or under-20 tournament (as the rest of the world calls it)? I'll try again this year, but I just don't get the love. I never understood how this tournament seems to take precedence over the real WCs.
Maybe it does in Canada but that's about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptBrannigan View Post
I don't know, maybe it's the sloppy play, or any of a number of factors, but this time of year I always feel terribly underwhelmed by it. I'm also interested that it seems to be a hockey-only phenomena, the "junior" World Cups that FIFA puts on aren't nearly as hyped and those are only every 4 years.
It's not hockey-only, it's Canada only.

Most hockey fans outside of Canada don't follow the WJC.

Even in Canada it allegedly wasn't very big at all until the TV started to hype it.

jekoh is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 08:30 AM
  #3
Android 16
Registered User
 
Android 16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Country: United States
Posts: 8,581
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptBrannigan View Post
...about the WJCs, or under-20 tournament (as the rest of the world calls it)? I'll try again this year, but I just don't get the love. I never understood how this tournament seems to take precedence over the real WCs.

I don't know, maybe it's the sloppy play, or any of a number of factors, but this time of year I always feel terribly underwhelmed by it. I'm also interested that it seems to be a hockey-only phenomena, the "junior" World Cups that FIFA puts on aren't nearly as hyped and those are only every 4 years.

Only one who feels like this?
I am only interested in seeing my team's future on display on a large stage. Otherwise, I wouldn't be too excited over the games. However, it's different during lockout years. Being so hockey-starved like the rest of you, I will follow the WJC with glee.

Android 16 is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 08:46 AM
  #4
RogerRoeper*
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 21,850
vCash: 500
Never been a big fan. It is fun seeing some of the games next big stars, but the actual tournament doesn't interest me much. It feels like Canada is in the final every year and winning it doesn't feel that big to me.

RogerRoeper* is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:00 AM
  #5
KingsFan7824
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,272
vCash: 500
The games just don't take place within any context for me. I don't know the vast majority of players, or where they usually play, so it just ends up being a bunch of teenagers playing hockey. I'll usually catch the medal games every year though.

Then with all the lockout stuff, I'm just really not into watching much hockey at the moment.

KingsFan7824 is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:05 AM
  #6
Nick0930
Registered User
 
Nick0930's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Quebec
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,252
vCash: 500
I enjoy the WJC more than regular season hockey. These kids are playing their butts off trying to impress scouts.

Nick0930 is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:07 AM
  #7
Sonic Disturbance
Grandmaster User
 
Sonic Disturbance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Country: China
Posts: 2,147
vCash: 50
It gets more attention (at least in Canada) because it's best-on-best (or usually close to; 2 or 3 eligible players often play in the NHL) tournament for 19-year olds and under, whereas the WC's (once again, at least for Canada), usually lacks our top firepower and consists of many up and coming young players who are essentially trying out for future Olympic teams. Furthermore, the WC is right during the midst of the NHL playoffs, so there is conflicting interest. Lastly, the players in the WC (once again, in Canada's case) don't seem to have nearly the intensity, excitement, or emotion of the players in the WJC.

Sonic Disturbance is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:12 AM
  #8
Darth Bangkok
Registered User
 
Darth Bangkok's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Country: United Nations
Posts: 6,784
vCash: 500
I'd like to watch the WJC this year, but I don't have NHLN anymore so I probably won't be seeing it.

Darth Bangkok is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:14 AM
  #9
Elvs
Registered User
 
Elvs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pitea
Country: Sweden
Posts: 7,872
vCash: 708
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeping Dragon 81 View Post
It gets more attention (at least in Canada) because it's best-on-best (or usually close to; 2 or 3 eligible players often play in the NHL) tournament for 19-year olds and under, whereas the WC's (once again, at least for Canada), usually lacks our top firepower and consists of many up and coming young players who are essentially trying out for future Olympic teams. Furthermore, the WC is right during the midst of the NHL playoffs, so there is conflicting interest. Lastly, the players in the WC (once again, in Canada's case) don't seem to have nearly the intensity, excitement, or emotion of the players in the WJC.
All this, plus the WC being every year and hypotheically a player could have 15 chances to win a gold with his national team. In the WHJC, you only have 2-3 chances to do it.

Elvs is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:20 AM
  #10
LSnow
Registered User
 
LSnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 3,468
vCash: 500
Usually i dont really care for kids hockey, but since there is a lockout i watch the big 5 games. Quality of hockey is pretty bad, but its better than nothing. Dont really know why someone would prefer this over WC.

LSnow is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:24 AM
  #11
isles31
Poster Excellont
 
isles31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: LI
Country: United States
Posts: 4,320
vCash: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Bangkok View Post
I'd like to watch the WJC this year, but I don't have NHLN anymore so I probably won't be seeing it.
This is me too. I cancelled all NHL-only networks. MSG has the Knicks, which is the only viable sports option in NY lately...and i HATED basketball. But i have nothing else to watch.

isles31 is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 09:32 AM
  #12
Ozz
Registered User
 
Ozz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Hockeytown
Country: United States
Posts: 7,595
vCash: 500
I get it, I just don't care to follow much. It takes too much effort for my lazy self.

Ozz is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:01 AM
  #13
Xokkeu
Registered User
 
Xokkeu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Frozen
Country: Antarctica
Posts: 5,057
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptBrannigan View Post
...about the WJCs, or under-20 tournament (as the rest of the world calls it)? I'll try again this year, but I just don't get the love. I never understood how this tournament seems to take precedence over the real WCs.

I don't know, maybe it's the sloppy play, or any of a number of factors, but this time of year I always feel terribly underwhelmed by it. I'm also interested that it seems to be a hockey-only phenomena, the "junior" World Cups that FIFA puts on aren't nearly as hyped and those are only every 4 years.

Only one who feels like this?
U20s and U17s are every two years. Only the U23s, aka the Olympics are every four.

Xokkeu is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:02 AM
  #14
Xokkeu
Registered User
 
Xokkeu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Frozen
Country: Antarctica
Posts: 5,057
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Bangkok View Post
I'd like to watch the WJC this year, but I don't have NHLN anymore so I probably won't be seeing it.
NHL.com has all the US games.

Xokkeu is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:06 AM
  #15
um
Registered User
 
um's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,406
vCash: 500
i dont care about it as much as the nhl or the WC but its only 1 1/2 weeks so it doesnt require much effort

um is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:06 AM
  #16
Ashasx
Registered User
 
Ashasx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,076
vCash: 500
This is likely the only real hockey most of us will see this year. It combines the best players from Canadian juniors with the European leagues, the best sub 20 prospects in the world... how can you not be excited to watch this?

These kids are playing for their hockey lives. Some of the best hockey games I've seen in the last 5 years have come from this tournament.

Ashasx is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:06 AM
  #17
MISC*
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,123
vCash: 500
I watch it hoping Canada loses.

I genuinely hate human beings and nothing makes me happier than an entire cocky country deflated. I was screamingin happiness when the Americans beat us in OT a few years back.

Serious.

MISC* is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:11 AM
  #18
OttawaRoughRiderFan
Leaving/Goodbye All
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Leaving HF
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,802
vCash: 500
I get it. I think it is a wonderful tournament and I appreciate the kids (and their families) giving up their Christmas to play for their country. After seeing how the Russian and Swedish fans reacted (after their teams won), I think others appreciate it as well. If they don't, their loss.

I am currently watching the Slovakians playing their hearts out against a superior Russian team - they tied it with less than a minute left.
God bless those kids and this tournament.

For those who don't like it, give it a chance, it might surprise you. As for Canadians, we will always love and support it and that makes me proud.


Last edited by OttawaRoughRiderFan: 12-26-2012 at 11:00 AM.
OttawaRoughRiderFan is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:25 AM
  #19
frag2
Registered User
 
frag2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,986
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptBrannigan View Post
...about the WJCs, or under-20 tournament (as the rest of the world calls it)? I'll try again this year, but I just don't get the love. I never understood how this tournament seems to take precedence over the real WCs.

I don't know, maybe it's the sloppy play, or any of a number of factors, but this time of year I always feel terribly underwhelmed by it. I'm also interested that it seems to be a hockey-only phenomena, the "junior" World Cups that FIFA puts on aren't nearly as hyped and those are only every 4 years.

Only one who feels like this?
Location: Tampa

Kind of validates the stereotype that Southern States in the US don't give a rats ass about the sport as a whole unless it's their team and winning

As mentioned by others, it's probably going to be the most competitive we get to watch in a while [unless league comes back in 2 weeks]. And in Canada, it's Boxing day tradition

frag2 is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:27 AM
  #20
KRM
Registered User
 
KRM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Gothenburg
Country: Sweden
Posts: 11,148
vCash: 500
The WJC have great ratings in Sweden, so it's not only Canada.

KRM is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:28 AM
  #21
Xokkeu
Registered User
 
Xokkeu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Frozen
Country: Antarctica
Posts: 5,057
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by frag2 View Post
Location: Tampa

Kind of validates the stereotype that Southern States in the US don't give a rats ass about the sport as a whole unless it's their team and winning

As mentioned by others, it's probably going to be the most competitive we get to watch in a while [unless league comes back in 2 weeks]. And in Canada, it's Boxing day tradition
That's where you went with that? A chirp at the southern states? Plenty of American hockey fans in New York and Minnesota don't care about this tournament either.

Xokkeu is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:29 AM
  #22
Qurpiz
The omniscient
 
Qurpiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,826
vCash: 500
Watch it for the players, not the teams.

Qurpiz is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:35 AM
  #24
OttawaRoughRiderFan
Leaving/Goodbye All
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Leaving HF
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,802
vCash: 500
That's why I hate these type of threads...

If someone doesn't like the tournament, let it drift. Don't watch. But by putting a negative spin on it you end up:

i) Minimizing what the kids and their families give up and how much they care - while you sit on your couch and drink eggnog by the Christmas Tree;
ii) Starting a regional battle - fans belittle each other.

No win in this type of thread. They have been done over and over again and I wish the Mods would shut them ALL down.

OttawaRoughRiderFan is offline  
Old
12-26-2012, 10:41 AM
  #25
FuriousSenator
Registered User
 
FuriousSenator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,749
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevyD View Post
That's why I hate these type of threads...

If someone doesn't like the tournament, let it drift. Don't watch. But by putting a negative spin on it you end up:

i) Minimizing what the kids and their families give up and how much they care - while you sit on your couch while drink eggnog by the tree;
ii) Starting a regional battle - fans belittle each other.

No win in this type of thread and I wish the Mods would shut them down.
There he is. Same old KevyD causing trouble on our valid and objective threads which help put an actual 'other side' to the TSN hype machine.

Our point (which you don't seem to be understanding) isn't that the hockey is bad, or that this tournament isn't worth watching (it is). The issue is with the massively disproportional fan worship for the tourney found in Canada, to the detriment of other, massively more prestigious international tournaments.

Canadians treat this and the Stanley Cup on almost equal grounds.

I'll tell you what should be important to Canadian sports fans: our men's national team making the World Cup of soccer, the Toronto Blue Jays bringing the World Series back across the border in a league dominated by big spending American clubs, Canada beating out Russia in the WHC (missing players and all). Sometimes I feel like these other things are completely forgotten in our fandom quest for WJC "glory" (when really, if we win gold, throw it on the pile...the pile exclusively seen and heard about by us).

FuriousSenator is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:24 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2016 All Rights Reserved.