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Group B • Dec. 30 • Canada 2, United States 1

View Poll Results: Who wins?
Canada in regulation 163 60.59%
Canada in OT/shootout 31 11.52%
U.S. in regulation 64 23.79%
U.S. in OT/shootout 11 4.09%
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12-29-2012, 09:14 PM
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On one of the TSN videos, Spott mentioned that Scheifele may play a few shifts at center. If that happens, you'd have to think they'll put him with his Colts linemate Camara, who hasn't really done anything to this point (aside from the monster hit).

Strome and Ritchie have played well together, MacKinnon and Drouin were flying together in the last game, so you'd think it make sense to reunite Scheifele and Camara as well.

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12-29-2012, 09:17 PM
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i think the problem is that we've been so traumatized by our goalies the last few years that it takes little to send us into crisis mode...and the fact that gibson gave up fewer goals against russia than subban did against either germany or slovakia has only worsened people's frame of mind right now

really it's a defense mechanism - psychological in nature...if we prepare for disaster in advance we'll be better able to deal with it as it happens...particularly at 4:30 am.

if nothing else, i predict the GDT will be highly entertaining.
I agree...just trying to restore some faith

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Wooo Canada!! We're going to crush everyone in our way!! No one can stop us!! Everyone sucks but us!! Woo Canada #1!! We could play 5 on 4 all game and we'd win anyway!!


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Haha...yep, pretty much.

Not saying we won't lose and everyone else sucks. Just getting behind my team....who IMO is the superior team.

Should be a great game to watch either way!

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12-29-2012, 09:20 PM
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If Subban gets blown out, does Spott roll with Binnington the next game against Russia?
I sure hope so.

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12-29-2012, 09:29 PM
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Excited for this game. Going to bed now, so I won't be tired when I set my alarm for 4am.

Expecting a very physical game. Hope the refs let them play.

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12-29-2012, 09:31 PM
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If Subban gets blown out, does Spott roll with Binnington the next game against Russia?
Unfortunately for you guys his solution would probably just be play Murphy even more to fix that defense.

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12-29-2012, 09:35 PM
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I've tried avoiding all sports media so I can watch these games when they're played later in the day with a clean slate but it's just too hard. I end up accidentally looking at the sports ticker on tv or hearing something on the radio. I'm gonna suck it up and watch this game live. Should be a goodie.

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12-29-2012, 09:36 PM
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Honestly, this game is a BEAUTY for scouts. Seth Jones be given the task of shutting down NHL caliber players in RNH and Huberdeu. His physical tools won't be enough alone to get the job done, his hockey IQ and awareness (areas I believe he is lacking in) will really be tested big time. Maybe he'll prove me wrong though, I haven't seen enough of him to be really sure about his hockey IQ.

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12-29-2012, 09:37 PM
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Let's hope they play MacKinnon more considering we're so many men down. Brilliant when he has played? BETTER FORCE HIM TO PLAY A GRINDER ROLE HE'S NOT SUITED TO PLAY AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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12-29-2012, 09:41 PM
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12-29-2012, 09:47 PM
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I'm wondering if I should even bother watching the game live... I have a really bad feeling about this one.

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12-29-2012, 09:52 PM
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usa was clearly better team in the game with russia and they are gonna take this one. 6 : 4 usa
Ya but Canada didn't play Russia yet so your comparison is irrelevant.

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12-29-2012, 09:59 PM
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hopefully the USA lays a pounding

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12-29-2012, 10:12 PM
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Offense:
Canada has superior offensive firepower and it's not even close. Huberdeau and specifically RNH are on other level compared to any other forwards in this tournament. After that you've got three lines that with a lot of size and skill that can score. The US on the other hand has a really strong player in Galchenyuk, and a wildcard in Gaudreau, but after that there's not a lot of high end offensive talent. I just don't see how the lack of offensive firepower up front for the US can be fixed tbh...

Advantage Canada, big time.
Gaudreau is not the next best forward after Galchenyuk.

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12-29-2012, 10:15 PM
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Gaudreau is not the next best forward after Galchenyuk.
Don't think we can say who is, yet.

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Trying to figure out game times for New Zealand. How long until the game starts?

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12-29-2012, 10:17 PM
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Slightly off topic but I require assistance if you care about other fans. How can I watch this from an ipad in the US? Tried streaming from NHL.com and didn't work. HELP!!

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12-29-2012, 10:20 PM
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Gaudreau is not the next best forward after Galchenyuk.
He is supposed to be based on pre-camp US chatter, but he hasn't shown very much through the last 4 games. He did have that one nice move that he hit a crossbar on, but not much else. Grimaldi is supposed to be up there too, but all I've seen is speed, tenacious play and selfishness. Miller has shown even less. From how they have played so far, I would put Barber and Hartman as the best two after Galchenyuk. It should be names like Trochek up there, but honestly, most of the US forwards have not shown up yet. Most of the team's offense has been generated by three players, Galchenyuk, Trouba and Jones. Honorable mention to Gostisbehere.

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12-29-2012, 10:27 PM
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Trying to figure out game times for New Zealand. How long until the game starts?
6 hours.

If Canada is truly the second most popular team with the locals then I don't understand why we always have the 3:30 PM (local time) game. Wouldn't it make more sense to throw any Canada games right before Russian contests?

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12-29-2012, 10:33 PM
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Don't think we can say who is, yet.
In the last four games Trocheck, Grimaldi, Lucia, Kuraly, and Hartman have all been bigger threats than Gaudreau. Maybe Gaudreau has a breakthrough, tonight, but there's no reason to dub him our number two.

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12-29-2012, 10:34 PM
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Gaudreau is not the next best forward after Galchenyuk.
Well then who is? Kuraly? Trochek? I still think its J.G.

The list of Canadian forwards that are superior offensively to USA's second best forward:
- RNH
- Huberdeau
- Scheifle
- McKinnon
- Drouin
- Rattie
- Strome

That's 7 Canadian who are better than USA's 2nd best forward.

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He is supposed to be based on pre-camp US chatter, but he hasn't shown very much through the last 4 games. He did have that one nice move that he hit a crossbar on, but not much else. Grimaldi is supposed to be up there too, but all I've seen is speed, tenacious play and selfishness. Miller has shown even less. From how they have played so far, I would put Barber and Hartman as the best two after Galchenyuk. It should be names like Trochek up there, but honestly, most of the US forwards have not shown up yet. Most of the team's offense has been generated by three players, Galchenyuk, Trouba and Jones. Honorable mention to Gostisbehere.
Even in pre-camp chatter Grimaldi was ahead of him. He just hasn't been hyped up around these boards as much as Gaudreau has.

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12-29-2012, 10:37 PM
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According to TSN, we are the 2nd favourite team for the locals.
Yeah the NTV Plus commentator (Russian Pay TV) said that that majority of Russian fans will support Canada against the USA

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12-29-2012, 10:38 PM
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If Germany and Slovakia each scored 3, and there are no changes on the back-end ice time or wr to bad penalties, how many is the US going to pot, 6?

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Well then who is? Kuraly? Trochek? I still think its J.G.

The list of Canadian forwards that are superior offensively to USA's second best forward:
- RNH
- Huberdeau
- Scheifle
- McKinnon
- Drouin
- Rattie
- Strome

That's 7 Canadian who are better than USA's 2nd best forward.
If I have learned one thing in international hockey is that if you have an elite forward, an elite defence man and an elite goalie, you can beat anyone. The US has one of the forwards in the CHL Galch, two elite defenceman, Jones and Trouba, and a stellar goalie, Gibson.

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12-29-2012, 10:39 PM
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If Germany and Slovakia each scored 3, and there are no changes on the back-end ice time or wr to bad penalties, how many is the US going to pot, 6?
I dunno because offensively we haven't created a lot of chances in the last four games.

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