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Group B • Dec. 30 • Canada 2, United States 1

View Poll Results: Who wins?
Canada in regulation 163 60.59%
Canada in OT/shootout 31 11.52%
U.S. in regulation 64 23.79%
U.S. in OT/shootout 11 4.09%
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12-29-2012, 09:40 PM
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Easy to find feeds to watch outside the US ?

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12-29-2012, 09:41 PM
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If I have learned one thing in international hockey is that if you have an elite forward, an elite defence man and an elite goalie, you can beat anyone. The US has one of the forwards in the CHL Galch, two elite defenceman, Jones and Trouba, and a stellar goalie, Gibson.
Anyone can beat anyone in this tournament, that's the beauty of it!

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12-29-2012, 09:47 PM
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Prediction 7-3 Canada.

I can't wait for this one.

Hamilton needs to do more, he hasn't done anything so far, I was expecting a lot from him coming in to this tournament.
Jones, Trouba, Ghost, McCabe, and Gibson and Canada is gonna score 7 times? Dream on buddy

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12-29-2012, 09:48 PM
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One thing about hockey ... you can ride a hot goalie all the way. It's one advantage the US has ... better between the pipes.

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12-29-2012, 09:50 PM
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One thing about hockey ... you can ride a hot goalie all the way. It's one advantage the US has ... better between the pipes.
If Subban shows up ready to play Canada takes this game, but if he doesn't the Americans will.

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12-29-2012, 09:52 PM
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12-29-2012, 09:54 PM
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If Subban shows up ready to play Canada takes this game, but if he doesn't the Americans will.
The thing with Subban, he seems easily rattled. Like if he lets in a bad goal or two he mentally folds. That is a hard thing to get over being a goalie. Probably the hardest.

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12-29-2012, 09:55 PM
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I want Canada to win or USA to blow Canada out. Hopefully that will get Spott to put in Binnington. Subban scares me, even against teams like Slovakia and Germany I was nervous with him back there.

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12-29-2012, 09:55 PM
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If Germany and Slovakia each scored 3, and there are no changes on the back-end ice time or wr to bad penalties, how many is the US going to pot, 6?
It's all going to depend upon how our offense plays, especially our top six. The lines of Gaudreau-Miller-Grimaldi and the Galchenyuk-Kurlay-Barber line have to step up if were going to have any chance against Canada.

I would also like to see the Lucia-Trocheck-Biggs line step up as well, they have to engage an aggressive forecheck against Canada and be willing to crash the net.

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12-29-2012, 10:01 PM
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Well then who is? Kuraly? Trochek? I still think its J.G.

The list of Canadian forwards that are superior offensively to USA's second best forward:
- RNH
- Huberdeau
- Scheifle
- McKinnon
- Drouin
- Rattie
- Strome

That's 7 Canadian who are better than USA's 2nd best forward.
I think that you're under the mistaken impression that I expect the US to win. I'm just saying that Gaudreau isn't our second best forward.

The only way I see us winning is if Gibson and the D have a monster game, which they're capable of. I'm not convinced that Housley has cracked the code on our forward corps.

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If Germany and Slovakia each scored 3, and there are no changes on the back-end ice time or wr to bad penalties, how many is the US going to pot, 6?
You can't compare how many goals one team put in to what another team will do. Obviously Canada will play USA A LOT harder than they played either of those teams. They're going to be more focused and play a much tougher game.

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12-29-2012, 10:05 PM
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Going to be a toughie. Always, always support USA, but as a Bruins fan, I am excited to see our prospects play. Win/Win situation methinks.


Always a fun game when we play each other.

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I think that you're under the mistaken impression that I expect the US to win. I'm just saying that Gaudreau isn't our second best forward.

The only way I see us winning is if Gibson and the D have a monster game, which they're capable of. I'm not convinced that Housley has cracked the code on our forward corps.
Agreed, if the US are to win Gibson will have to be a monster (which he is fully capable of doing).

Also agree with the forwards, there are definitely better line combos to roll with that have yet to be used. Galchenyuk's lack of usage for one amazes me. This is a guy who is dominant, why is he not on the first line playing 20+ a game when he's the best forward on the team?...

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Going to be a toughie. Always, always support USA, but as a Bruins fan, I am excited to see our prospects play. Win/Win situation methinks.


Always a fun game when we play each other.
It's just too bad the game is on at 4:30 am on Dec. 30th instead of 7:30 pm on Dec 31st.

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12-29-2012, 10:11 PM
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canada 6-1 as the US team has a serious meltdown. no hope. I'm staying up to watch it anyway.

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I think that you're under the mistaken impression that I expect the US to win. I'm just saying that Gaudreau isn't our second best forward.

The only way I see us winning is if Gibson and the D have a monster game, which they're capable of. I'm not convinced that Housley has cracked the code on our forward corps.
Me neither, it just seems Housley thinks the Gaudreau-Miller-Grimaldi line is just going to dominate and lead the way, which isn't going to happen.

I personally don't like Milller as our top center, he improved in the Russia game, but I would rather have Galchenyuk as our top line centermen. Miller to me is better suited on the wing than playing center.

I would rather have Gaudreau play on the second line with Kurlay and Barber, hoping he can create instant chemistry with those two.

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If Subban gets blown out, does Spott roll with Binnington the next game against Russia?
I would think so. Subban hasn't exactly won the job. One bad outing would seal his fate.

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Well then who is? Kuraly? Trochek? I still think its J.G.

The list of Canadian forwards that are superior offensively to USA's second best forward:
- RNH
- Huberdeau
- Scheifle
- McKinnon
- Drouin
- Rattie
- Strome

That's 7 Canadian who are better than USA's 2nd best forward.
Good point. I never really thought about that. The U.S. has been going thru an offensive drought going on 5+ years.

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I want Canada to win or USA to blow Canada out. Hopefully that will get Spott to put in Binnington. Subban scares me, even against teams like Slovakia and Germany I was nervous with him back there.
He scared me too. Not sure why. Live or die, I just want a goalie I can trust and believe in. Haven't had that since Price.

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12-29-2012, 10:20 PM
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Do we have a list of each Canada and US players and whose prospect they are?

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Suck it Yanks!

We Canadians are doin' something you guys didn't have the guts to do...

Invade Russia and Win!!!!









(I mean this in an entirely playful and fun way ahead of the game tmrw...good luck and all...just want to stir the pot (thread) up and get some hostility going..)

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12-29-2012, 10:24 PM
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The goalie situation could get tricky for Canada.

Say Subban gets pulled after a couple of bad goals, but Binnington plays worse. Spott pretty much has to put Subban back in against Russia, even with his confidence possibly shot.

Glad I'm neither Canada's goalie nor coach.

Hope none of that happens. I like everyone playing their best, and may the best team win.

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I would think so. Subban hasn't exactly won the job. One bad outing would seal his fate.



Good point. I never really thought about that. The U.S. has been going thru an offensive drought going on 5+ years.



He scared me too. Not sure why. Live or die, I just want a goalie I can trust and believe in. Haven't had that since Price.
We have plenty of good forwards. We aren't going to produce a dozen elite skaters every cycle.

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Jones, Trouba, Ghost, McCabe, and Gibson and Canada is gonna score 7 times? Dream on buddy
It's just someone's guess, simmer down name dropper.

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Canada 6-5. Nugent-Hopkins will have a huge game and Subban will stand on his head, but hey, his play is subject to change

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With Finland possible finishing 2nd in their pool, I wonder if finishing 1st in our pool is all that advantageous. Think about it...

Whoever finishes 1st (in Canada's pool) has to play the winner of the Fins (assuming they end up 2nd) vs the 3rd place team in our pool - in the semis.
Whoever finished 2nd (in Canada's pool), likely plays the Czechs and then Sweden - assuming the Swedes finish 1st in Pool A. An easier road!!!
So, assuming Finland finishes 2nd in Pool A, in Canada's pool...

Finishing 1st may mean 2 tough games to win Gold.
Finishing 2nd may mean 2 easy games and 1 tough game to win Gold.
Finishing 3rd may mean 3 tough games to win Gold.


I'm just saying a loss (either Sunday or Monday) is not the end of the world - but finishing 3rd is. Am I making sense???


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