...and leads the Caps with 5 game winners and 2nd in total goals. The loaded Caps that were going to carry Brouwer according to some.
not want to take something away from him, especially the Game winners, but 2nd in Goal totals has more to do with the bad play of the team overall than Brouwer being good
not want to take something away from him, especially the Game winners, but 2nd in Goal totals has more to do with the bad play of the team overall than Brouwer being good
I thought he only gets the minimal points that he does by sucking off good players on good teams.
Now he has plenty goals because the team around him sucks.
he hasn't many goals because the other guys suck, he is 2nd in goal totals because the other guys suck and can't even hit the open net. This is also the reason why the Caps are not good this year
Last 25 games before last night = 6 goals + 4 assists -5
Haters gonna hate.
So in other words you try to (mis)represent his entire body of work this season by:
Omitting 17 games where his totals are 8-5-13 + 4
Select a random time-frame that had the lowest output. It had to be 25 games, because 26, 27 and 28 games ago were all games where he had points, thus putting his “pace” back in line to where it’s expected.
By season’s end Brouwer will be around 25 goals, 45 points, finishing checks that put him among the top hitting forwards in the league (currently 5th) and providing a big body physical presence to a team that is high in skill but needs more jam to succeed in the playoffs. A player like this at a cap-hit of $2.35 million is a bargain.
If you watch any Caps games, you can easily see Brouwer's value. He leads the team in hits, is close to the leagues top as well (and with 30 PIM in doing so) and he also kills penalties for them and we all know he will stick up for his teammates when necessary. He certainly is not the slug people here make him out to be and like Versteeg seems to have found a nice home for himself.
Edit: He also leads the team in game winning goals with 5. Not bad for a guy with offensively gifted teammates like Ovy and Backstrom.
So what you are saying is we should of paid Brouwer 2.35mil so he could play on our 3rd and 4th lines?
he wouldn't play with Toews and Kane (Stalberg)
He wouldn't play with Hossa and Kruger (Sharp)
The only place he could play is 3rd line, or 4th line.
Our 3rd line plays against the other teams top players every night, and Brouwer is horrible defensively. You want Brouwer playing every shift against other teams top offensive players? No
Do you want to pay a 4th liner 2.35mil a year? No.
I'm glad he is doing ... well....about as well as he did in Chicago.
There was no place for him here, and it was time to move on.
So what you are saying is we should of paid Brouwer 2.35mil so he could play on our 3rd and 4th lines?
he wouldn't play with Toews and Kane (Stalberg)
He wouldn't play with Hossa and Kruger (Sharp)
The only place he could play is 3rd line, or 4th line.
Our 3rd line plays against the other teams top players every night, and Brouwer is horrible defensively. You want Brouwer playing every shift against other teams top offensive players? No
Do you want to pay a 4th liner 2.35mil a year? No.
I'm glad he is doing ... well....about as well as he did in Chicago.
There was no place for him here, and it was time to move on.
Cough … you mean like Frolik. I’m not saying we didn’t get fair value for TB but we needed to replace those hits and I was hoping Carcillo and Jamal could fill the void. Now with Carcillo out for the season, we are a softer team this year then we were last. Shaw helps, but he doesn’t have the big body and Hayes has the size but not the meanness.
If Stan picks up another softie at the trade deadline, I’m gonna scream.
So what you are saying is we should of paid Brouwer 2.35mil so he could play on our 3rd and 4th lines?
he wouldn't play with Toews and Kane (Stalberg)
He wouldn't play with Hossa and Kruger (Sharp)
The only place he could play is 3rd line, or 4th line.
Our 3rd line plays against the other teams top players every night, and Brouwer is horrible defensively. You want Brouwer playing every shift against other teams top offensive players? No
Do you want to pay a 4th liner 2.35mil a year? No.
I'm glad he is doing ... well....about as well as he did in Chicago.
There was no place for him here, and it was time to move on.
Cough … you mean like Frolik. I’m not saying we didn’t get fair value for TB but we needed to replace those hits and I was hoping Carcillo and Jamal could fill the void. Now with Carcillo out for the season, we are a softer team this year then we were last. Shaw helps, but he doesn’t have the big body and Hayes has the size but not the meanness.
If Stan picks up another softie at the trade deadline, I’m gonna scream.
Difference is, Frolik is decent defensively, so at least he can play 3rd line W role and not be lost. But could you imagine if we had both of these anchors?
Let's be honest, if Brouwer was on this team, we would all be cursing him along with Frolik.
So what you are saying is we should of paid Brouwer 2.35mil so he could play on our 3rd and 4th lines?
he wouldn't play with Toews and Kane (Stalberg)
He wouldn't play with Hossa and Kruger (Sharp)
The only place he could play is 3rd line, or 4th line.
Our 3rd line plays against the other teams top players every night, and Brouwer is horrible defensively. You want Brouwer playing every shift against other teams top offensive players? No
Do you want to pay a 4th liner 2.35mil a year? No.
I'm glad he is doing ... well....about as well as he did in Chicago.
There was no place for him here, and it was time to move on.
First of all.. Which line is our third line right now? Surely it can't be Brunette-Bolland-Hayes line.. I mean, Brunette is the slowest player in the league, sucks defensively and has an ugly -10 to show for it.. but wait! Lets just bump Brunette down and put Bickell on the left side, right? Well, no, not so fast.. because now you have a lazy, floating player on your third line, who looks like he doesn't give a **** 95% of the time... that doesn't sound very good, does it? Hmm.. well, I must say, given the choice between Brouwer and Brunette/Bickell on our third line, I'd glady take Brouwer over each.
Brouwer's "horrible" defense on this board has been drastically overstated. I'm not saying he's in line for the Selke, but he's nowhere near as bad as he's been made out to be.