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Will we have a season?

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Yes 50 49.02%
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12-31-2012, 04:42 PM
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Will we have a season?

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12-31-2012, 04:44 PM
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Still saying yes. If there isn't a season i put all the blame on the PA.

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12-31-2012, 05:13 PM
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Still saying yes. If there isn't a season i put all the blame on the PA.
It takes two to tango and there's enough blame to go around. That said, I started this ever-so-slightly favoring the owners, and the longer it goes, the more and more the players are pissing me off.

I still think both sides would be foolish to let the incredibly minor differences between them cause a loss of over $2B.

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12-31-2012, 05:14 PM
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They can't be that stupid to cancel the entire season with what's left to negotiate

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12-31-2012, 05:17 PM
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My guess would be the PA wants something like a 9 year CBA with a 6 year opt-out clause, and at the very least 7 year contract limitations with an extra year or two for your own team.

Hopefully we haven't backtracked to the point where they're going to dispute money again...

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12-31-2012, 05:19 PM
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They can't be that stupid to cancel the entire season with what's left to negotiate
Don't kid yourself. They are.

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12-31-2012, 05:20 PM
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Don't kid yourself. They are.
I'm not so sure anymore. I think there's enough noise from both ends that want it done.

Then again, I've been unpleasantly surprised most of the last four months...

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12-31-2012, 05:31 PM
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I'm not so sure anymore. I think there's enough noise from both ends that want it done.

Then again, I've been unpleasantly surprised most of the last four months...
Yeah. I'm just not letting myself be convinced by the chatter. I never believed it the first time there was "a deal on the horizon" way back near the beginning of this garbage, and have never believed it any of the times since, either. It's served me well - the lockout has taken nowhere near the emotional toll on me that it seems to have taken on some other fans on here... namely those who get hopeful.

It's a very cynical outlook, of course, but this is what our NHL has become.

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12-31-2012, 05:33 PM
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Yeah. I'm just not letting myself be convinced by the chatter. I never believed it the first time there was "a deal on the horizon" way back near the beginning of this garbage, and have never believed it any of the times since, either. It's served me well - the lockout has taken nowhere near the emotional toll on me that it seems to have taken on some other fans on here... namely those who get hopeful.

It's a very cynical outlook, of course, but this is what our NHL has become.
I think most of the no votes are people who think a deal can be reached but don't want to get up their hopes.

I've been describing myself as "Cautiously pessimistic" since Mid-November. By all means, a deal should get done, but if it doesn't, I wouldn't be surprised.

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12-31-2012, 05:38 PM
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I think most of the no votes are people who think a deal can be reached but don't want to get up their hopes.

I've been describing myself as "Cautiously pessimistic" since Mid-November. By all means, a deal should get done, but if it doesn't, I wouldn't be surprised.
You're probably right. But those people voting no may be right as well.

We don't get our hopes up because there simply isn't any reason to. These sides have shown us time and time again that they are about as able to compromise and negotiate as a couple of five year-old children.

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12-31-2012, 05:39 PM
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I have no faith in the clowns negotiating

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Hope not, but they will get a deal done

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No season. Fehr screws around too much.

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12-31-2012, 06:28 PM
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No season. Fehr screws around too much.
For what it's worth it was said there were no major differences in the two proposals, and unless the NHL is just stalling to make the PA fail to meet their disclaimer, they're undoubtedly serious about getting something done and will likely volley it back into the PA's court.

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12-31-2012, 07:12 PM
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Still saying yes. If there isn't a season i put all the blame on the PA.
they wanted to keep the old cba, with how the league has grown since the last lock out all the blame should be on the owners for this one, they (the owners) should've just been content with what they were getting

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12-31-2012, 07:44 PM
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The very day this lockout started I said there wouldn't be a season. I'll stick with my prediction.

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12-31-2012, 10:51 PM
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Nope. We're done.

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12-31-2012, 11:50 PM
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they wanted to keep the old cba, with how the league has grown since the last lock out all the blame should be on the owners for this one, they (the owners) should've just been content with what they were getting
Yeah, because we definitely need a repeat of 1992.

And I'm failing to see what incentive there is for the players to get a new deal done when the owners let them play under the old one. We'd be in the same exact situation, except it'd be next year instead of this one.

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Yes, of course there's going to be a season. There will be lots of seasons.

.... oh, you mean this year? Nope.

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Hope not, but they will get a deal done
So, you don't want hockey this year?

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Still saying yes. If there isn't a season i put all the blame on the PA.
Would you keep your job if your salary was cut back and if tons of new rules were implemented which made your job much more annoying and took away your right to have a choice?

If you could, you'd probably go on strike.

You can't blame people for exercising their freedoms.

Anyone who can go on strike probably should. Why take your rights for granted?

Imagine how frustrated teachers and nurses must feel about having no choice but to continue working? Working in a field which is considered and essential service takes away pretty much all of your bargaining power.

This strike is Gary Betman's fault.

#1: He made the rules the last CBA. The last CBA, which looked really successful and at the same time got tons of people really rich.
#2: Because the NHL needs to be on strike. Phoenix and Seattle are still up in the air and the longer we wait for the next season to start the better things will look for these two cities.
#3: What happens to Weber's massive salary? Hmm?? How much money is Nashville going to lose if they actually have a season this year? Same with Parise and Suter. Same with anyone with a front loaded contract.

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Does it matter? A half season or another lost season says "look at me... I'm a failure". Way to grow the game guys.

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So, you don't want hockey this year?
I would almost agree, part of me doesn't want hockey this year. Without a season the Avs have a much higher chance of getting a Top 5 Pick then if there was a season.

However I'm quite confident a deal will be done by the end of this week.

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