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01-14-2013, 01:17 PM
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Longest time without a trade

Going over Ken Holland's moves, I noticed that he has only traded one regular roster player (i.e. players that have played at least 82 games for the Red Wings) since 2002. He traded Jason Williams in 2007.

He has not traded a regular player in almost six years.

Is this unusual from a historical perspective? What's the longest a team has gone without a trade?


Ref: List of all of Ken Holland's moves.


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Would you consider Brad Stuart a regular player?

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Would you consider Brad Stuart a regular player?
Yes, but I wouldn't count it as a trade since, as I understand it, what was traded was only the negotiating rights, not the contract. The contract only had three weeks left on it, and Stuart had said that he would not resign. Not what you would normally call a trade, but you are right otherwise.

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Yes, but I wouldn't count it as a trade since, as I understand it, what was traded was only the negotiating rights, not the contract. The contract only had three weeks left on it, and Stuart had said that he would not resign. Not what you would normally call a trade, but you are right otherwise.
but it is a player trade

how did the move or add
Mike Commodore
Kyle Quincey
Drew Miller
Ville Leino
Matt Ellis
Brad Stuart
Jason Williams
Kyle Calder
Todd Bertuzzi
Joey MacDonald
Cory Cross
Jamie Rivers

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01-14-2013, 02:58 PM
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but it is a player trade

how did the move or add
Mike Commodore
Kyle Quincey
Drew Miller
Ville Leino
Matt Ellis
Brad Stuart
Jason Williams
Kyle Calder
Todd Bertuzzi
Joey MacDonald
Cory Cross
Jamie Rivers
He has of course made plenty of minor trades (trading picks, prospects, minor league players etc), but what I'm trying to get at is players that have earned a regular spot on the team. It seems like once you make the team, you generally don't get traded.

Of the players you listed, only Jason Williams and Brad Stuart played 82 games before they were moved.

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Of the players you listed, only Jason Williams and Brad Stuart played 82 games before they were moved.
And Kyle Quincey at least. Commodore also way over 82 games... And Jason Williams...

Did I miss the point?

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And Kyle Quincey at least. Commodore also way over 82 games... And Jason Williams...

Did I miss the point?
You sure did. Neither, Quincey, who had played a whooping 13 regular season games over three seasons, nor Commodore were regulars.

But nothing new here, we all know Holland is conservative regarding trades. Throughout his tenure he really hasn't traded anyone of value with very few exceptions. Picks and prospects, sure, but actual players hardly any.

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And Kyle Quincey at least. Commodore also way over 82 games... And Jason Williams...

Did I miss the point?
Quincey was claimed off waivers, not traded.

Commodore only played 17 games for the Red Wings.

Jason Williams is the only player to have played at least 82 games who got traded since 2002 (feel free to count Stuart as well if you want).

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