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01-04-2013, 06:41 PM
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There is really no point for firing Andy Reid in Philadelphia if they were planning to bring in Kelly as his replacement.

If Kelly lasts four years, I'll be shocked. I have a feeling he will bomb hard ala Petrino and Spurrier.

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There is really no point for firing Andy Reid in Philadelphia if they were planning to bring in Kelly as his replacement.

If Kelly lasts four years, I'll be shocked. I have a feeling he will bomb hard ala Petrino and Spurrier.
Spurrier failed because he didn't want to work hard enough, he's even said that he wasn't doing that. Unlike Suprrier Kelly works all year in coaching. That'll make him a winner.

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If Kelly goes to the Browns, he can have Percy Harvin :p

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01-04-2013, 06:57 PM
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Spurrier failed because he didn't want to work hard enough, he's even said that he wasn't doing that. Unlike Suprrier Kelly works all year in coaching. That'll make him a winner.
Unless he vastly adapts his sytem, he will bomb.

This stuff can work in college. But this is a completely different animal.

It also means that Weeden is likely gone and what a waste of a first round draft pick that turned out to be.

In addition, Mike Lombardi might be brought in as the GM. Which means Brian Hoyer and Bill Simmons aren't that far behind.

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01-04-2013, 06:59 PM
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There is really no point for firing Andy Reid in Philadelphia if they were planning to bring in Kelly as his replacement.

If Kelly lasts four years, I'll be shocked. I have a feeling he will bomb hard ala Petrino and Spurrier.
they got rid of Reid because he hasnt been good recently. His combined record was under .500 the past 3 years.

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01-04-2013, 07:20 PM
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Unless he vastly adapts his sytem, he will bomb.

This stuff can work in college. But this is a completely different animal.
He adapts his system. He uses the concepts of no huddle, lot of running, and getting speed guys. Doesn't need a running QB either. But are you making Mariota not run or would you change the system so he can.

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01-04-2013, 07:29 PM
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Before reading the quote, I'll put this out there as a rare NFL trade proposal, I think makes sense:


Blaine Gabbart for Brandon Weeden


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Unless he vastly adapts his sytem, he will bomb.

This stuff can work in college. But this is a completely different animal.

It also means that Weeden is likely gone and what a waste of a first round draft pick that turned out to be.

In addition, Mike Lombardi might be brought in as the GM. Which means Brian Hoyer and Bill Simmons aren't that far behind.
If you're the new regime, which everyone there now is, Weeden being a 1st round pick isn't your problem. If he turns out, that's great, Chip Kelly will look like a genius. If he doesn't, well, it wasn't any of these guys who drafted him.

They have to decide quick on Weeden though. They might be able to salvage something (like from the Jets, who should've been the ones who drafted him, or the Jags who can match him back up with Blackmon). Weeden also won't want to stick around, because I'm sure even he knows he has a short shelf life and can't waste time adjusting to an option offense.


I do expect this to not work. He'll be head coach at USC when he's out, or replace David Shaw when he decides to make the jump

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01-04-2013, 07:37 PM
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LOL at if he doesn't adapt his system he will fail. Chip Kelly isn't an idiot. He's not a coach that tries to fit square pegs into round holes. He'll adapt to his personnel. That starts with getting a QB that he can work with. Rookie-wise, Taj Boyd would be a good candidate if he comes out. Alex Smith would be a good vet option.

But the CEO type approach to Oregon, his no huddle system, his core running plays all will work in the NFL. He's a top notch coach who will adjust to his guys and the pro game. For example, when Kelly was at New Hampshire, he ran more of a pro-style offense.

I really think Kelly will do well if he gets the proper support system in Cleveland.

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01-04-2013, 07:44 PM
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Kelly might not have to change his offense that much if he gets an athletic QB. Look what RGIII, Kaepernick, Newton, etc are running. It's very similar to stuff Kelly likes to do. As long as he doesn't go full Chudzinski (trying cute misdirection plays as his base offense) on his new team, he'll be fine. Tajh Boyd would actually be a good choice if he wanted someone who can run his current style of offense

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01-04-2013, 08:03 PM
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Why would you turn down the Bucs one year and then go to the Browns?

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Well, if his team is bad enough maybe he will be able to draft Manziel within the next couple of years...

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Why would you turn down the Bucs one year and then go to the Browns?
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01-04-2013, 09:11 PM
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Why would you turn down the Bucs one year and then go to the Browns?
You act like the Tampa job is much better than the Browns job. Recently, they're on the same level. Tampa is a better location for the most part, but football wise they're pretty similar. And like other people have said, there are other reasons such as money, sanctions, being able to make personnel decisions, etc.

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01-04-2013, 09:30 PM
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You act like the Tampa job is much better than the Browns job. Recently, they're on the same level. Tampa is a better location for the most part, but football wise they're pretty similar. And like other people have said, there are other reasons such as money, sanctions, being able to make personnel decisions, etc.
I don't think Cleveland has been blacked out multiple times a season, or even ever, have they?

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I don't think Cleveland has been blacked out multiple times a season, or even ever, have they?
I meant it terms of amenities and weather, but this is a valid point. Browns have some of the best fans in the NFL even with all the mediocrity.

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01-04-2013, 09:58 PM
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But the Glazers were willing to pay him a butt load. He parlayed that into more money from Oregon if I recall right. But anyway, it's Cleveland - they've never been relevant. I give it 3-4 years. Again.

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I don't think Cleveland has been blacked out multiple times a season, or even ever, have they?
The correct answer is no, they have never been blacked out.

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But the Glazers were willing to pay him a butt load. He parlayed that into more money from Oregon if I recall right. But anyway, it's Cleveland - they've never been relevant. I give it 3-4 years. Again.
Yes, the Bucs won a Super Bowl a decade ago, but if you think that makes them more relevant than the Browns now, you are delusional. Sounds like you don't believe in your savior Schiano and you're bitter Kelly didn't come there last year.

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I'm plenty fine with Schiano but Kelly going to Cleveland sounds like a disaster. They'll be a fun team to watch, regardless. Is it even a done deal yet?

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Why does it sound like a disaster? If you think that, why would it have been any different if he picked TB last year? They're similar franchises at this point.

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I'm surprised that Kelly would be interested in Cleveland, tbqh. If he was going to go anywhere, I honestly thought that San Diego would be the best fit for him.

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I don't get why he'd go to a team with such a poor QB situation.
He'll sign Darron Thomas.

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The same Schefter who had him as a near lock to be in Arizona though.

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Please take him Arizona. Ill drive Haley to the airport.

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