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04-19-2013, 08:32 AM
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You don't have to trade picks to move up.. there were plenty of promising forwards at the time... Like a playoff performer in franzen or up and coming speedster Helm, whatever it takes to move to that... I bet the team that had the 15th would have accepted that instead of an extra 3rd rounder.
Helm I could see being added but Franzen, come on be real. You don't trade a 30G-30A winger to move up 15 spots in the draft, regardless of how high you are on someone.

At that point the player is nothing but potential and would be ranked up there with the Milbury trades. Now that player turned into Karlsson but the point still stands if he doesn't develop as quickly as he he does that trade still looks bad today.

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Nichushkin at 17 was a beast for Traktor who nearly won the Gagarin Cup.

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04-21-2013, 09:49 PM
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VALENTIN ZYKOV

wow this player would be a great draft pick for the wings in the first round ...
power forward 6'1 215
first year in the Q rookie of the year 67gp --40g--35a =75pts 60 pim

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/lhjmq/valen...9duit-1.584746

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VALENTIN ZYKOV

wow this player would be a great draft pick for the wings in the first round ...
power forward 6'1 215
first year in the Q rookie of the year 67gp --40g--35a =75pts 60 pim

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/lhjmq/valen...9duit-1.584746
2 questions

where is he expected to go?

and did he play with star players that could inflate his numbers?

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04-21-2013, 10:51 PM
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I want Hunter Shinkaruk

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04-22-2013, 05:08 AM
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I want Hunter Shinkaruk
5'10 176lbs


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zykov

zykov play with the captain felix girard a not drafted players 61 pts and another rookie boudreau 63 pts

he is expected to go between 10-20 at the draft

seriously he is very very good in the lhjmq he is big powerfull winger,he`s a sniper very good shot

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5'10 176lbs

Even I would love getting Shinkaruk if we're picking in the 10ish range, dont think hes there after that though. Hes small but hes gritty out there, agitates and can score

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5'10 176lbs

He's also only 18 years old, and our organization only plays guys that are like 23. He has time to fill out. And ultimately, I don't care if he's not big. He is extremely talented offensively, has great hands, and knows how to put the puck in the net. 86 goals, 175 points the past 2 years with Medicine Hat. I don't think he will be available when we pick, but if he is it would be a mistake to pass him over.

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04-22-2013, 11:31 AM
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While being lower in the standings/ missing the playoffs sucks,

I've always really liked the draft and gotten excited for it. The fact that we should be picking higher this summer (and likely next) is a silver lining for me, personally.

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04-22-2013, 12:06 PM
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While being lower in the standings/ missing the playoffs sucks,

I've always really liked the draft and gotten excited for it. The fact that we should be picking higher this summer (and likely next) is a silver lining for me, personally.
Always something eh. But also something I think you get tired of pretty rapidly.

I'm always excited for the draft no matter what though, but that's more because of my interest in prospects and not where Detroit picks.

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Always something eh. But also something I think you get tired of pretty rapidly.

I'm always excited for the draft no matter what though, but that's more because of my interest in prospects and not where Detroit picks.
Same with me, but the fact we might get one that I actually recognize/ have heard of a decent amount is cool.

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Been watching Russia play at the U18's and their d-man #5 Glukhov has caught my eye. 6'1 two-way D with a right handed shot and good skating. He's put up some points as well but I actually first noticed his defensive play(in the 1st or 2nd game, can't remember). Will be interesting to see where he goes in the draft, CSS had him at 48 among Euro's in their mid-term ranking.

Would be a good pick in the later rounds, if available. His stock might go up thanks to the U18's.

Vladimir Tkachyov is another guy who's looked really good but he's a late birthday and not eligible in this year's draft. A bit small but fast and very skilled.


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Been watching Russia play at the U18's and their d-man #5 Glukhov has caught my eye. 6'1 two-way D with a right handed shot and good skating. He's put up some points as well but I actually first noticed his defensive play(in the 1st or 2nd game, can't remember). Will be interesting to see where he goes in the draft, CSS had him at 48 among Euro's in their mid-term ranking.

Would be a good pick in the later rounds, if available. His stock might go up thanks to the U18's.

Vladimir Tkachyov is another guy who's looked really good but he's a late birthday and not eligible in this year's draft. A bit small but fast and very skilled.
Nichushkin looks like man among boys there.

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04-22-2013, 02:56 PM
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Nichushkin looks like man among boys there.
He does that to pretty much anyone in his draft class. He even pulled the power move on Seth Jones, was quiet most the rest of that game, but he is good for at least one Holy **** rush a game really at any level of hockey. His problem for me is consistency, but he would be very intriguing if he slips because of the Russian factor and contract situation.

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04-26-2013, 07:52 PM
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I was wondering the posibilities for detroit picking at number 15 if they make the playoffs and gets bounced in the first round? Are they going by points they finished the regular season with?

To make it easy, lets say all higher seeds in each conference go to round 2, 5-8 in both west and east goes out in the first round, who picks 15 and who picks 23rd?

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I was wondering the posibilities for detroit picking at number 15 if they make the playoffs and gets bounced in the first round? Are they going by points they finished the regular season with?

To make it easy, lets say all higher seeds in each conference go to round 2, 5-8 in both west and east goes out in the first round, who picks 15 and who picks 23rd?
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here's our draft lottery chances per sportsclubstats: 42(17), 20 (16), 9(15), 14(14), 15(13)

(42% chance of picking 17 overall and 15% chance of picking 13 overall).

this of course excludes going to the conf finals and picking in the bottom 4. we should be rooting for the rangers and islanders today. either way, its gonna be our highest pick since marty lapointe in 1991 and at least a couple of the following should be available: wennberg, erne, mantha, gauthier, zykov, lazar, horvat, bukarovsky, morrissey, hagg. would be very excited to get into the playoffs and still land one of these guys.


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here's our draft lottery chances per sportsclubstats: 42(17), 20 (16), 9(15), 14(14), 15(13)

(42% chance of picking 17 overall and 15% chance of picking 13 overall).

this of course excludes going to the finals and picking in the bottom 2. we should be rooting for the rangers and islanders today. either way, its gonna be our highest pick since marty lapointe in 1991 and at least a couple of the following should be available: wennberg, erne, mantha, gauthier, zykov, lazar, horvat, bukarovsky, morrissey, hagg. would be very excited to get into the playoffs and still land one of these guys.
Does it not depend on wether you make it to the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round? Is it all points based except the Stanley cup final teams?

So a team that finished 8th and lose in the 2nd round still picks before a team that won the president's trophy but lost in the 1st round?

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Does it not depend on wether you make it to the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round? Is it all points based except the Stanley cup final teams?

So a team that finished 8th and lose in the 2nd round still picks before a team that won the president's trophy but lost in the 1st round?
Up to conference finals. They pick 27th and 30th depending where they finish.

1-14 are the lottery picks and 15-27 are based on regular season finish.

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Up to conference finals. They pick 27th and 30th depending where they finish.

1-14 are the lottery picks and 15-27 are based on regular season finish.
oh thanks. sorry about misleading ... didn't realize conf finals counted too. edited above

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Pretty safe to say wings will be between 15-20 then

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Buchnevich has impressed me in the U18s for sure. He's slim yet but 6'1, and oozing with talent. I wonder if the Russian factor could make him slide to mid 2nd round, he's signed through 14/15. He's a first round talent.

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Buchnevich has impressed me in the U18s for sure. He's slim yet but 6'1, and oozing with talent. I wonder if the Russian factor could make him slide to mid 2nd round, he's signed through 14/15. He's a first round talent.
He's a really interesting player, no doubt. I think our 1st is too early for him and the 2nd is too late... But I would love to have the kid, his skill level is great.

I think Slepyshev is a Russian who the Wings could look at in the late rounds. He was passed over last year but it's not a big deal late in the draft. And it's not like there's a big age difference between someone born in June vs late September.


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