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06-10-2013, 06:23 PM
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Yikes. I would not want to pass up Wennberg for Hagg or Gauthier.
Many mocks still work on the mistaken premise that the wings desperately need D because Lids retired.

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06-10-2013, 06:24 PM
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http://www.whl.ca/roster/show/id/10489

He's the closest thing I could find. Let's hope he isn't done growing at 6'1, 177 lbs.

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Hmm, trade down? I think so. Oh can I get more of that ken-aid while it's kool, thanks mindfly.

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06-10-2013, 10:18 PM
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Cory Conacher proves otherwise.
bobby clarke, HHOFer and winner of 3 harts, selke (selke was created after his prime), 2 cups; also had diabetes. he fell in the draft because of it.

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it sure seems like alot of people want detroit to draft Hagg over on the mock draft board..

not sure if this is the best use of this high pick
mock drafts very often rely on typecasting.

thus, DRW, ottawa, vancouver, etc very often draft of swedes in 1st rounds of mock drafts, washington and now TBL draft russians.

but i think kronwall is their only swedish 1st round pick.

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06-10-2013, 10:39 PM
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I've come around on Hagg, though. He has some serious talent. If the Wings want a LD offensive guy, he's a good pick. I just don't think they need to take a defenseman in the first round this year.

But that said, every rumor I've heard all year long has been that Detroit is very, very high on Hagg.

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06-11-2013, 08:30 AM
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if Detroit wants Hagg we should drop down in the first rd, add a second rounder, and then draft him.

I am 40% certain a trade between Detroit and Montreal will happen on the draft floor

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06-11-2013, 09:14 AM
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if Detroit wants Hagg we should drop down in the first rd, add a second rounder, and then draft him.

I am 40% certain a trade between Detroit and Montreal will happen on the draft floor
Alright which quebecois is montreal interested in this time
Didn't go so well for them in 2009 with their 18th overall pick (Louis Leblanc)

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Alright which quebecois is montreal interested in this time
Didn't go so well for them in 2009 with their 18th overall pick (Louis Leblanc)
I dont think they will want a Quebecer to be honest but rather a power forward type player(they seem to be loving both size and american born players lately)

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06-11-2013, 09:56 AM
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I would love if we were able to get Theodore maybe not at the 18th pick but in the 23-35 range for sure. He's one of the best skating dman in the draft & he's a LH shot who projects to be a top 4, #1PP QB at the NHL level, something we don't have.

If we miss out on our guy and trade back to 25 I'd have no problem with us taking him there.
tbh i'm not dissing theodore. i don't feel that i know enough about any of these guys to praise or criticise them as potential draft picks. i just think that morreale's reasoning is at best poor. yes, we don't have lidstrom any more, but we have heaps of d-prospects who are either NHL-ready or near NHL-ready. if you're going to highlight a "need", for me it would be a top 6 centre.

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06-11-2013, 11:11 AM
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Does anyone have any thoughts on Erne or Burakovsky at 18? I know they aren't centers but both seem to have a lot going for them and should be around at 18. I for one am not expecting a finished product at 18.

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06-11-2013, 11:28 AM
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Does anyone have any thoughts on Erne or Burakovsky at 18? I know they aren't centers but both seem to have a lot going for them and should be around at 18. I for one am not expecting a finished product at 18.
I can comment on Burakovsky and he's probably got the 2nd highest upside among the Swedes after Lindholm, although he's a winger and Wennberg is a center. He measured in at 6'2.25 at the combine which is really solid. He's got high-end speed, some powermoves and a good release. He's far too thin at the moment, isn't always using his linemates and has had a rough time adjusting to men's hockey. I don't question his on ice work ethic, but off the ice he seems a bit self-centered similar to how his dad was. He refused to re-sign with his SEL2 club because he was unhappy with his ice time and is headed to the CHL for next season. The reward is there and so is the risk.

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Anyone know much about Victor Crus Rydberg? He was a monster at the combine.

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06-13-2013, 12:09 AM
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Anyone know much about Victor Crus Rydberg? He was a monster at the combine.
Pretty sure the Wings know a lot about him given his parent club. He plays for Linköping's junior team.

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06-13-2013, 09:54 AM
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Anyone know much about Victor Crus Rydberg? He was a monster at the combine.
Just a solid player in most aspects. Probably wouldn't say high end, but he's got middle six offensive tools. He's got some skating issues to overcome to play in North America. Could be worth a go in the 3rd-4th round.

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Ryan Hartman is the answer, future captain and is a gritty power forward type. I think at worst he will be a Mike Richards type of player.

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Ryan Hartman is the answer, future captain and is a gritty power forward type. I think at worst he will be a Mike Richards type of player.
Dayum, we must draft him then

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06-13-2013, 12:22 PM
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Just a solid player in most aspects. Probably wouldn't say high end, but he's got middle six offensive tools. He's got some skating issues to overcome to play in North America. Could be worth a go in the 3rd-4th round.
Since you seem to know a bit about these guys, how is Wallmark's skating? Serviceable?

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06-13-2013, 05:07 PM
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Ryan Hartman is the answer, future captain and is a gritty power forward type. I think at worst he will be a Mike Richards type of player.
At worst hes going to be at the level of a Canadian Olynpic gold medalist who plays large role in a cup win?

I think youre setting the bar a little high

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06-13-2013, 05:10 PM
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At worst hes going to be at the level of a Canadian Olynpic gold medalist who plays large role in a cup win?

I think youre setting the bar a little high
I like Hartman a lot but agree, that is more a ceiling argument than an at worst statement.

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06-13-2013, 07:26 PM
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Draft

RYAN HARTMAN his an very interesting draft choicevery good futurein the nhl physical player available to score goal good comparaisons with mike richards he is in my top five for the first round draft picks at the 18 rank

valentin zykov,curtis lazar,ryan hartman,kerby rychel,anthony mantha

other interstings picks for the wings for the other round
LAURENT DAUPHIN : probablly not available with our rank at the second round .. some people compare dauphin to zetterberg ...
EMILE POIRIER good young physical shooter
PAVEL BUCHNEVICH play in the khl ...
MICHAEL MCCARRON big physical power forward
JASON DICKINSON
ERIC ROY defense
JONATHAN ISMAEL DIABY big defense from the Q not afaid to drop the mits
GABRYEL PAQUIN BOUDREAU zykov partner
KEATON THOMPSON physical defense
RYAN KUJAWINSKI
ANTHONY DUCLAIR
COLE CASSELS
ROBERT HAGG probably not available in the second round
VIKTOR CRUS RYDBERG
PHILIPPE DESROSIERS if we need a goalie
MICHAEL DOWNING good defense from michigan

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06-13-2013, 09:00 PM
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Since you seem to know a bit about these guys, how is Wallmark's skating? Serviceable?
Serviceable sounds too positive, for a guy his size it's probably below average. Both him and Crus Rydberg have skill sets(but a little different ones) worthy of the 1st or 2nd round but size/skating combo will make them slide. But not bad projects especially with the new four year draft rights for euros.

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I don't see why people are high on Mantha, I haven't heard good things about his work ethic and defensive play, also he is one of the oldest players in the draft.

I don't really like Hartman at 18 either, I would rather pick someone with higher offensive potential, I think there is a good chance Hartman will never be anything more then a 3rd liner.

Ian McCoshen really interests me but he will probably fall somewhere between or 1st and 2nd picks, if we traded down though I think he would be a great pick.

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At worst hes going to be at the level of a Canadian Olynpic gold medalist who plays large role in a cup win?

I think youre setting the bar a little high
I think by 'type of player' he's not referring to ceiling at all but based on pure game style, Richards or Callahan is dead on for Hartman.

At worst his offense doesn't transition and he's a more physical Abdelkader. If he can pan out, he definitely could become comparable to one of those guys.

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I don't see why people are high on Mantha, I haven't heard good things about his work ethic and defensive play, also he is one of the oldest players in the draft.

I don't really like Hartman at 18 either, I would rather pick someone with higher offensive potential, I think there is a good chance Hartman will never be anything more then a 3rd liner.
If you don't want Franzen on the team (most don't), then you don't want to draft Mantha. I'm not sold on Hartman being appropriate for what Detroit needs, either. Even if he turns out, we basically get super-Cleary. I don't think that sort of player addresses any weakness in the system, and I don't think a 5'11 tweener with heart has a world of trade value.

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I think by 'type of player' he's not referring to ceiling at all but based on pure game style, Richards or Callahan is dead on for Hartman.

At worst his offense doesn't transition and he's a more physical Abdelkader. If he can pan out, he definitely could become comparable to one of those guys.
Saying a guys play style is that of Richards or Callahan to me says that he plays like a top line NHLer/Olympian. You could just as easily say he plays like Clutterbuck or something like that and the comparison would be fair. Also saying a more physical Abdelkader is iffy as well when the guy is under 6 feet tall and still in junior. Some people dont realize how physical Abdelkader is compared to most in the league

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