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01-31-2013, 06:57 PM
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John Tavares

Do you guy's think he will hit the 100 point plateau and become a superstar? it always goes through my mind, from that OHL season i thought he was gonna be the next Gretzky. he's only 22 years old is going to have to carry the islanders like rick Nash did with Columbus? and does he have good development from his organization unlike columbus?

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01-31-2013, 07:00 PM
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In terms of potential he's probably third in the league.

He has the potential to be 120 point guy

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01-31-2013, 07:17 PM
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In terms of potential he's probably third in the league.

He has the potential to be 120 point guy
That is debatable. For me I would put both Stamkos and Giroux ahead of JT

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01-31-2013, 07:19 PM
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Tavares with two goals tonight and is starting to take off. He'll be the leader in just about everything within a week.

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He'll win an Art Ross in the not so distant future.

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Tavares is most likely top 5 players in the league. He's just trapped right now, although the Isles are looking decent this year.

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That is debatable. For me I would put both Stamkos and Giroux ahead of JT
Put Tavares with Eberle and on a better team and he would be putting up 100+ on a regular basis.

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01-31-2013, 07:28 PM
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Put Tavares with Eberle and on a better team and he would be putting up 100+ on a regular basis.
Everybody says things like this but it's a bunch of bull.

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Tavares showing why so many of us are so high on the guy.

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JT has been steadily getting better, defensively smart playmaking C with some goalscoring ability.

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Tavares seems more sustainable to me than Giroux. He's the guy I'd build a team around.

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Breaking 100 points seems very plausible to me, I think he'll do it as early as next season. The guy has been substantially better every season, I have no worries that he will end up just like Rick Nash and carry the team his whole career.

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Everybody says things like this but it's a bunch of bull.
perennial 100+ points might be a stretch but how can you possibly debunk this argument? Parenteau and Moulson were ****ing nothing before playing with Tavares. Look at the islanders lineup from last year and tell me its a bunch of bull that he puts up a ppg pace with that supporting cast. I think he has some of the best hockey IQ in the league, its hard to find a better player from the hashmarks in.

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Breaking 100 points seems very plausible to me, I think he'll do it as early as next season. The guy has been substantially better every season, I have no worries that he will end up just like Rick Nash and carry the team his whole career.
JT > Nash ANIEC. Let's not compare the two.

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He's already the best player in the league.

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01-31-2013, 07:56 PM
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JT > Nash ANIEC. Let's not compare the two.
I wasn't trying to compare, the OP asked if we'd think he would have a similar career to Nash. I was just giving my opinion.

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perennial 100+ points might be a stretch but how can you possibly debunk this argument? Parenteau and Moulson were ****ing nothing before playing with Tavares. Look at the islanders lineup from last year and tell me its a bunch of bull that he puts up a ppg pace with that supporting cast. I think he has some of the best hockey IQ in the league, its hard to find a better player from the hashmarks in.
It's easy to debunk it. Just because a better player plays with him doesn't mean he will all of a sudden have 100 points. That other good player will get their points too. Now possibly would the team be better? Sure. Don't sell guys like Moulson short because they are good complementary players that are finishing. It's an insult to sell the guy short because he's not as talented as Tavares. Moulson put in a **** load of work to get where he is at. I hate people like you with the mentality that think they are nothing.

Hfboards mentality is always omg better player on line mooaarr stats. People were thinking at one point you could even put Laraque on Crosbys line and Laraque would score more. It's pure ********.

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perennial 100+ points might be a stretch but how can you possibly debunk this argument? Parenteau and Moulson were ****ing nothing before playing with Tavares. Look at the islanders lineup from last year and tell me its a bunch of bull that he puts up a ppg pace with that supporting cast. I think he has some of the best hockey IQ in the league, its hard to find a better player from the hashmarks in.
He jump started their careers, but they definitely had the talent especially Moulson. And don't act like he had the worst linemates possible, there are like 10 centers who could've put up ppg~ with both Parenteau and Moulson.

I don't think some people realize how hard 100 points is to actually score, Malkin played with Sykora and Fedotenko the year he scored 113, he played with a 40 goal-80 point Neal last year and barely paces out to beat that total.

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. Don't sell guys like Moulson short because they are good complementary players that are finishing. It's an insult to sell the guy short because he's not as talented as Tavares. Moulson put in a **** load of work to get where he is at. I hate people like you with the mentality that think they are nothing.
This, it's like people think Moulson does nothing himself.

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In terms of potential he's probably third in the league.

He has the potential to be 120 point guy
I wouldn't be surprised if he hit a 100 points soon but 120? Do you know how hard it is to hit 120 mark in today's NHL?

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Put Tavares with Eberle and on a better team and he would be putting up 100+ on a regular basis.
You could say the same thing for giroux and stamkos. Who practically do it now without him.

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01-31-2013, 08:12 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if he hit a 100 points soon but 120? Do you know how hard it is to hit 120 mark in today's NHL?
Yes.

Both Crosby and Malkin have 130-135 point potential.

Tavares had 120 point potential.

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Yes.

Both Crosby and Malkin have 130-135 point potential.

Tavares had 120 point potential.
That's great and what is the likely hood that any of them ever hit that number? You know it's not the 90's anymore right? The goalies are actually pretty good now a days and they actually play defense

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That's great and what is the likely hood that any of them ever hit that number? You know it's not the 90's anymore right? The goalies are actually pretty good now a days and they actually play defense
Tell that to the Flyers.

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Tell that to the Flyers.
That's low haha. Well unfortunely for JT, Crosby, and Malkin they don't play the flyers all 82 games. So I don't see any of them hitting those numbers any time soon.

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That's great and what is the likely hood that any of them ever hit that number? You know it's not the 90's anymore right? The goalies are actually pretty good now a days and they actually play defense

Crosby has been on a 130+ point pace two years in a row.

Malkin was on a 120 point pace last year. He also picked up his play tremendously in the last half. Over the last 41 games he had 33-31-64 for a 128 point pace.

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