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01-04-2013, 09:33 PM
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It will take time to build a true fan base. There will be the people that support them right away, but like Ottawa in may take a generation or so to get some big fan numbers going. Ottawa is still 50% Leafs 33% Habs territory. But they are inching forward.
That's true I honestly wouldn't even give them 50% but at least in Ottawa people will go to games just for the sake of watching hockey. Regardless I'm willing to bet it would do better than some of our current markets.

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01-05-2013, 01:24 PM
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whike the wisconsin franchise will probably be at best a mid-market team, it likely wont lose 30-40 milion like phoenix has been doing. you have 3 potential rivals in the wild blackhawks and redwings, and at this point an nhl team cant do worse than the Bucks..

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I would love to see Milwaukee in the NHL.. but as what?? expansion team or relocated team?? Who would the relocated team be?? and what the team name might be? I would be very interested to see how it pans out.. Milwaukee would have excellent rivalies with Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit.. and who knows if a Milwaukee-Winnipeg rivaly would be something?

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For the foreseeable future (5+ years), it's Phoenix or bust for people that want relocation teams. Florida, St. Louis, Nashville, and Dallas are aren't moving, the Isles are moving to Brooklyn, and Columbus just got an arena financing deal that'll hopefully help their bottom line.

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01-05-2013, 04:53 PM
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absent another thrashers situation, where the ownership doesnt give a hoot and wants out, the more likely scenario for milwaukee is expansion. as for what to call them, beersteins, lagers, beavers, elk, who knows. you could have a naming contest, and the winning fan could get a new car or something.

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I'm not sure that it's feasible from an administrative standpoint, but I would love to see this team branded 'Wisconsin' with a split home schedule between Milwaukee and Madison 31/10 or 35/6.

Clearly there are other markets that make more sense at the moment. However, in 10-12 years with the Bucks possibly on their way out and plans for a new arena, I think this would be a great option for an NHL ownership group.

In the meantime, I hope you Sconnie hockey fans are siding up with Suter and the Wild. I get the sense that that the Wild have a little bit of traction in western WI that I know the Twolves, Vikings, and Twins are not getting. It would be great to see Wild territory expand in to the Madison hockey community.

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01-06-2013, 07:41 PM
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Preds are still my #1 but since FS Wisconsin broadcasts Wild games, I watch and like them too.

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01-06-2013, 07:50 PM
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Let us not forget Madison has a helluva college hockey team (more often than not)

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In a gate driven league they probably couldn't survive all those oversized seats cutting ticket revenue in half.

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Houston will just be another hot weather non-passionate fan base, i dont think that would be a good idea

Seattle, they may have a good following.

Quebec City, i dont much about. But just by being in Canada it will probably do well.
Houston is the fourth largest market in America and has had the Aeros there for quite some time. It's not just another hot weather non-passionate fan base. There is a well-established history of hockey there.

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Not in the near future. Seattle and QC are at the top of the food chain.

In the next 20-30 years, maybe, that state should be more proactive in developing hockey rinks. Not just because you're a big market.

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In a gate driven league they probably couldn't survive all those oversized seats cutting ticket revenue in half.
Ahahaha, I get it, it's a fat joke. Even though it's not even close to being true.

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Ahahaha, I get it, it's a fat joke. Even though it's not even close to being true.
Wow Miami? really? TV lies to me, who would ever have thought that?

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I'd support moving Phoenix to WI.

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Not in the near future. Seattle and QC are at the top of the food chain.

In the next 20-30 years, maybe, that state should be more proactive in developing hockey rinks. Not just because you're a big market.


We're actually known for being among the smaller markets in professional sports, part of the reason why the Bucks struggle to gain any traction

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I think he was talking about Houston.

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Hey everyone, im new to "HF boards". I just wanted to see what you guys think about Wisconsin getting an NHL team. I know you guys all have your favorite team but just for the league it would be a great state to tap into. I obviously am from WI, but Why do we have a NBA team and not a hockey team dont forget we have a football stadiam here we call the frozen tundra! Let me know what you guys think, dumb idea, great idea, ect....
you also have a baseball team--why not a football team

Milwalkee can support one pro season at a time

Summer time its the Brewers and in the winter time it is the Bucks

There is only so much avaiable money to go around

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If Milwaukee wants a team, they should show the potential by supporting their AHL team, the Admirals. In a lockout, when many young players get sent down to the minors, Milwaukee averages 4,401 for home games, while the league average is 5,387 - to me that doesn't speak well for any potential NHL hockey in Wisconsin.

http://theahl.com/stats/schedule.php?view=attendance
Just looking at these figures, looks like the Houston Aeros do pretty good, 6,700 average. I've heard murmurs that they would be in contention for a team one day, anybody have any thoughts or expertise on Houston as an NHL hockey market one day?

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Just looking at these figures, looks like the Houston Aeros do pretty good, 6,700 average. I've heard murmurs that they would be in contention for a team one day, anybody have any thoughts or expertise on Houston as an NHL hockey market one day?
They have essentially everything except a willing owner, so they're sort of in the same boat as Kansas City except Houston's significantly larger and has more potential corporate support.

Les Alexander almost bought the Oilers and moved them to Houston back in the day, and has long been rumored as interested in getting a team, but the recession hit him hard. He's still very wealthy, a hundred millionaire, but not the billionaire he used to be, so in all likelihood he probably isn't interested in dropping a large amount of cash on a expansion or relocation team right now.

If the NHL announced a multiyear expansion review process though, that'd assuredly give time for a consortium of local businessmen to band together to form an ownership group, and from that they'd probably be one of the leading contenders for a team.

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you also have a baseball team--why not a football team

Milwalkee can support one pro season at a time

Summer time its the Brewers and in the winter time it is the Bucks

There is only so much avaiable money to go around
The football team supported in Milwaukee is primarily the Packers, as up until 1994, the Packers used to play some home games in County Stadium as well. For an NHL team to do well, they have to be marketed as a team that represents the state of Wisconsin, not just the city of Milwaukee. It's the main reason the Brewers and Packers are well supported and the Bucks are....well.....not. You know it's bad for the Bucks when you share an arena with a college basketball team, and that college basketball team outdraws you.

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For the foreseeable future (5+ years), it's Phoenix or bust for people that want relocation teams. Florida, St. Louis, Nashville, and Dallas are aren't moving, the Isles are moving to Brooklyn, and Columbus just got an arena financing deal that'll hopefully help their bottom line.
Wasn't there some sort of hubbub a couple months ago with the Oilers owner having a falling out over the city about a new arena, and then went off to "scout" Seattle?

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Why?

You ever been to Milwaukee?

Hockey has no pulse or influence there
Correct. For whatever reason Wisconsin isn't as hockey crazed as Michigan and Minnesota.

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Correct. For whatever reason Wisconsin isn't as hockey crazed as Michigan and Minnesota.
Could certainly do better than some other markets the NHL has tried/are trying. Many people I know are confused as to why we don't have an NHL team. Yeah, the general Wisconsinite isn't as hockey crazed as Minnesota or Michigan, but we do have some decent hockey heritage.

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If there was money to be made, they'd be there already. Passion and attendance is great, but you need corporate sponsorship and TV packages.

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Just looking at these figures, looks like the Houston Aeros do pretty good, 6,700 average. I've heard murmurs that they would be in contention for a team one day, anybody have any thoughts or expertise on Houston as an NHL hockey market one day?
remember the adage, if it's not broke, don't fix it..... the Aeros were potentially considered back in 1979, instead it was NE(Hartford), Quebec, Alberta/Edmonton & the original Jets that were grandfathered when the WHA collapsed....

Houston and the Aeros have been synomimous, and with them now being operated by the Wild, it's unlikely that relationship and Les Alexander's tenure as landlord won't change.

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