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01-03-2013, 04:47 PM
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LOL. Your actually trying to compare the NFL to NHL?
You should look into what the NFL was like when they greatly increased their revenue sharing. They haven't always been wildly successful.

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I wonder if they'll be on time for that. 9:30 AM... when was the last time these two sides got up that early for anything?

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The average NFL team is worth almost 1 billion dollars all by it's lonesome...
Not in the 1960s. They were more comparable to the NHL at that time, actually.

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My dad was battling cancer during the last lockout and didn't have his beloved Leafs to help him deal with it. Unfortunately, he passed away July 12, 2005. They announced the end of the lockout on July 13, 2005.
Sorry dude, that really sucks. Shows how unimportant these self-important primadonnas really are in life.

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Court says: "The Court's goal at that conference is to set a schedule and case-management plan for this litigation that is constructive."
https://twitter.com/NYDNRangers/stat...66096563683328

Neither side wants to go to court. Make a deal.

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I think people are reading way too much into the NHLPA's filing to dismiss the case. They had to respond before January 7, and they've done so. They can and likely will continue on with negotiations with the league and as I said when the NHL filed its motion, I doubt this case to determine the legality of the lockout sees the light of day in court.

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On CBA length: NHLPA willing to go to 10 years with opt-out after Year 7; NHL at 10 years with opt-out after Year 8
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NHL/PA: Either **** on the pot or get the **** off. Enough already.

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Some players are concerned the league is digging in post-disclaimer deadline. New vote about to begin. PA will use disclaimer if necessary.
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/sta...67079297511424

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Still 7-8 unresolved issues between both sides but big ones are Year 2 cap, length of player contracts, pensions...
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/...67896477954048

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Give the NHL it's 10-8 on CBA term, get pensions and split the cap number to 63.5...done. What annoys me the most about this lockout is a bunch of econ students could have negotiated this deal months ago.

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It is possible then that both sides won't really wanna start a court process and will settle this before monday.

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lol if they lose a season over one year on the OPT OUT option of the CBA then i hope the players go MC Hammer broke.

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They wouldn't even need to go to 100% revenue sharing. An NFL model of 60% puts 228 million into the pot, which is more than enough to cover the 130 million dollar shortfall of the bad franchises.

40% provides 152 million...still enough. 35% gives 133 million, which starts cutting it close but is enough.

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We all knew this will go to the 11th hour a deal won't be imminent until the 9th 10th or 11th. Don't get too caught up on the twitter "drama"

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The average NFL team is worth almost 1 billion dollars all by it's lonesome...
Only like three are (WSH, DAL, NE) but ok.

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A group of players and union staff have just returned to the NHL office. More pension talk, apparently.

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/st...68327400726531

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How can the league be 'digging in' when they haven't even formally met since 1 AM last night, and the NHLPA got its correction on HRR language today?

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Since the most any team is losing annually is generally well below ten million a year, I'm sure the huge cash cows pulling in huge profits can surely find a way to bring those franchises up to par.

Edit: Geez, never mind. CBJ and Phoenix account for about 40 million. A good start would be moving the Coyotes somewhere else. CBJ has shown in the past they can draw big crowds, they just need to get good management.
... I know you've edited, but in any case... for the bolded, to what end? Just getting them to break even doesn't do much for me as an owner. It isn't like a barely profitable team is more exciting to watch than one that is losing $40M a year. The roster would presumably be the same unless we start sharing enough that they can do what Minnesota did... and then what does *that* do for me as an individual owner... not good!

Further... it isn't like the NBC says... oh, well we were going to pay you $X for our next TV contract, but now we'll pay you Y because CBJ are breaking even.

If the point is just to have the teams stick around long enough to dilute the talent pool in exchange for a few more fans that don't come to my building and buy my jerseys, why should I care?

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A group of players and union staff have just returned to the NHL office. More pension talk, apparently.
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/st...68327400726531

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A group of players and union staff have just returned to the NHL office. More pension talk, apparently.
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/st...68327400726531

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As far as the Forbes stuff goes, on the highest paid players for NHL players, for Ovechkin they don't even list his Gillette deal, which shows how meticulous they are.

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The average NFL team is worth almost 1 billion dollars all by it's lonesome...
Wrong, every NFL team is worth at least 1 billion.

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@FriedgeHNIC Also, PA proposing as part of variance that, in multi-year contract, no season can have salary lower than 60 per cent of the highest year.

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...68291170336768

Edit: Friedman just corrected his tweet it should say NHL, not PA.

new tweet: https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...71223970312193


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@FriedgeHNIC Also, PA proposing as part of variance that, in multi-year contract, no season can have salary lower than 60 per cent of the highest year.

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/stat...68291170336768
The PA is proposing that?

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Not feeling too good about all these leaks...

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