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In a vacuum, I'd do this as a Sharks fan.
In reality, the Sharks are in no position to add salary with the rumored lowered salary cap. We'll see when the new CBA comes out.
In a vacuum, I'd do this as a Sharks fan.
In reality, the Sharks are in no position to add salary with the rumored lowered salary cap. We'll see when the new CBA comes out.
How about Gonta + Weber for Clowe + Murray to even out some salary? Murray is better than Weber but he is more expensive, 8 years older and UFA where as Weber makes 850k and is only RFA.
definately an interesting proposal
I believe Clowe plays left wing
if this is exact, it would allow Bourque to play the right side where he is more comfortable
Sharks would secure themselves Gionta for an extra year
would give more balance to the Habs
If there's a season, I don't see why the Sharks do this. Sharks need a Clowe player more than a Gionta player.
Of course, you can add in the "He'd look sick on Thornton's line"
No they don't. Sharks need speed in the Top-6. Grit is overrated.
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Originally Posted by Prairie Habs
How about Gonta + Weber for Clowe + Murray to even out some salary? Murray is better than Weber but he is more expensive, 8 years older and UFA where as Weber makes 850k and is only RFA.
I'd do it, though I'm not sure how much Weber is expecting to get in his next contract.
I'd do it. He's 4 years yonnger, 7 inches taller, 50 pds heavier, produced more in the last three years, (albeit with better players). I don't think its gonna happen.
Both have similar offensive ability, Gionta is faster and Clowe is grittier
Sorry, if we are trading Clowe it is to shed salary.
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Originally Posted by Prairie Habs
How about Gonta + Weber for Clowe + Murray to even out some salary? Murray is better than Weber but he is more expensive, 8 years older and UFA where as Weber makes 850k and is only RFA.
If there's a season, I don't see why the Sharks do this. Sharks need a Clowe player more than a Gionta player.
Of course, you can add in the "He'd look sick on Thornton's line"
The Sharks have plenty of grit. What they lack is dependable scoring and speed. Gionta would be a great boost, especially as he plays larger than his size suggests. Meanwhile, Clowe adds the size Montreal sorely lacks. Fairly good trade even if I like Gionta a lot.
The Sharks have plenty of grit. What they lack is dependable scoring and speed. Gionta would be a great boost, especially as he plays larger than his size suggests. Meanwhile, Clowe adds the size Montreal sorely lacks. Fairly good trade even if I like Gionta a lot.
as a hab fan i'd do it...though Gionta is the better player and signed for two more years. i'd make sure the deal was contingent on Clowe signing with habs - if that's possible
I'd do it, though I'm not sure how much Weber is expecting to get in his next contract.
It won't be much, especially with the lower salary cap I'd say 2 million or less, depending on how he plays this year.
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as a hab fan i'd do it...though Gionta is the better player and signed for two more years. i'd make sure the deal was contingent on Clowe signing with habs - if that's possible
Could add in a conditional pick coming from the Sharks so if he doesn't sign we have a chance to draft a decent prospect.
Have to pass from the Habs' POV. Just on contracts, though. If it's a mini-season rental of Clowe, well, I'd rather have Gionta for a mini-season *plus* a whole season in 2013-14. If they were both signed, I'd take Clowe... Gionta has been a good warrior and leader for us and 28 and 29 goals were very solid too, just the size issue with Clowe is attractive enough to overcome all that.
as a hab fan i'd do it...though Gionta is the better player and signed for two more years. i'd make sure the deal was contingent on Clowe signing with habs - if that's possible
as a hab fan i'd do it...though Gionta is the better player and signed for two more years. i'd make sure the deal was contingent on Clowe signing with habs - if that's possible
I agree that Gionta is the better player too... Clowe doesn't to my eye generate a lot on his own, for example, and I'm not sure he's as versatile as Gionta outside the offensive zone... but that said, were it not for the contracts, I'd just sacrifice that for the size factor. We don't need a quicker, more independent, more versatile player in other situations... Habs could use the bigger complementary guy more, if the production is at least close.
As a die-hard fan of both teams, I would LOVE this. Gionta would be a great fit for the sharks who lack RW depth (although many forwards are versatile). We've got three great centres in Thornton, Couture and Pavelski, with Marleau being able to play centre, I believe. Pavelski has been moved to RW, but we could shift him our second line centre playing on a line with Couture - Pavelski - Gionta with the first line being Marleau - Thornton - Havlat. None too shabby, some solid two way players with some speed, grit and scoring punch. Also with the versatility, the centres and left wingers are fairly interchangeable which allows people to easily move up and down the lineup.
Clowe would fill two needs for the habs; a LW with size, and ability to put up points. Montreal's top six:
As a die-hard fan of both teams, I would LOVE this. Gionta would be a great fit for the sharks who lack RW depth (although many forwards are versatile). We've got three great centres in Thornton, Couture and Pavelski, with Marleau being able to play centre, I believe. Pavelski has been moved to RW, but we could shift him our second line centre playing on a line with Couture - Pavelski - Gionta with the first line being Marleau - Thornton - Havlat. None too shabby, some solid two way players with some speed, grit and scoring punch. Also with the versatility, the centres and left wingers are fairly interchangeable which allows people to easily move up and down the lineup.
Clowe would fill two needs for the habs; a LW with size, and ability to put up points. Montreal's top six:
If Galchenyuk is able to play RW, any one of him, Leblanc or Eller (if he can play RW) could also take Borque's place.
I would make the trade as a Hab fan, too and if Clowe doesn't fit in well we will have Collberg, Kristo, Leblanc and Gallagher to fill Gionta's spot soon enough. I like it especially if the plan is to leave Galchenyuk in the minors for the rest of the year.
Whether we acquire Clowe's rights, or he becomes a UFA Habs will probably press hard for him either way. Both Therrien and Bergevin have said they want to make the habs bigger and harder to play against.
They're probably creep Clowe out like they did Prust and show up at his house at 12.
Whether we acquire Clowe's rights, or he becomes a UFA Habs will probably press hard for him either way. Both Therrien and Bergevin have said they want to make the habs bigger and harder to play against.
They're probably creep Clowe out like they did Prust and show up at his house at 12.
yes maybe if they give him 5m/year he will play for the habs
Wow, a deal where pretty much everyone agrees not only that it's fair but that they would also do it because it fills a need for both teams. DropKickQuinn should get a medal/award or something.
Wow, a deal where pretty much everyone agrees not only that it's fair but that they would also do it because it fills a need for both teams. DropKickQuinn should get a medal/award or something.
I guess the point is that if we aren't keeping Gionta and we want Clowe then that is a trade we make.
Trades like this happen all the time, it gives us exclusive rights to sign Clowe to an extension and if he's here it usually an easier sell to sign him afterwards.
