HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > National Hockey League Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
National Hockey League Talk Discuss NHL players, teams, games, and the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

The mathematics of a 48 game season

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-03-2013, 05:59 AM
  #1
Mr Wentworth
Arch Duke of Raleigh
 
Mr Wentworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 5,449
vCash: 500
The mathematics of a 48 game season

To the best of my knowledge, the number 48 is being kicked around because is the number of games played in the (94) 95 season.

There were less teams then.

How does the mathematics of a 48 game season work with 30 teams?

I can't divide it out and figure it out. I can't figure out how there will be equal games at home, away and against whom; how the games will be divided. How many against your division, how many against the rest of the conference?

To me, 56 is the number (to me at least)
2 home games and 2 away games against the other teams in your conference.
Isles at Sens twice, Sens visit the Isles twice.
Habs at Tampa twice, Tampa at the Habs twice.
Wild at the Stars twice...etc...
No out of conference play.
Teams 1-8 make the playoffs (no division winners, just one big conference tournament type of thing)


So, is the number 48 workable? If so, how? And, as stated in my opening sentence, is the number 48 being kicked around b/c it was the number of games played in the last truncated season?

Mr Wentworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 06:13 AM
  #2
capitalsrock
Registered User
 
capitalsrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Country: United States
Posts: 1,970
vCash: 500
sniper...

capitalsrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 07:19 AM
  #3
I Hate Chris Butler
Backlund Fan Club
 
I Hate Chris Butler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Saskatchewan
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,962
vCash: 300
30 games against division. 18 against rest of conference. Simple. You're overthinking it and making it more complicated than it needs to be.

I Hate Chris Butler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 07:29 AM
  #4
patnyrnyg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,899
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Hate Jay Feaster View Post
30 games against division. 18 against rest of conference. Simple. You're overthinking it and making it more complicated than it needs to be.
How would that work? You have 4 division opponents and 10 conference opponents.

Someone in the lockout thread mentioned it. Only way it works evenly for 48 games is 7 games against your division teams (28) and 2 games against the other teams in the conference (20).

Another idea could be 6 against your division (24) two against the rest of the conference (20) and then 4 random games to fill-in.

Could also just be either 3 or 4 games against each team in the conference to 48 games. Maybe something like 4 against the division (16) and 3 against the rest of the conference (30) with 2 random games to get to 48.

I will say if they are going to do some kind of balanced schedule like they did in 95, I would be a proponent of getting rid of division standings for the year. Just have conference standings.

patnyrnyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 07:30 AM
  #5
Mr Wentworth
Arch Duke of Raleigh
 
Mr Wentworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 5,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Hate Jay Feaster View Post
30 games against division. 18 against rest of conference. Simple. You're overthinking it and making it more complicated than it needs to be.
5 teams in a division.
There are 4 other teams.
30 can't be divided by 4 (without a remainder)

10 teams in the rest of the conference.
18 can't be divided by 10 (without a remainder)

Perhaps I'm doing my math wrong....

Mr Wentworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 07:33 AM
  #6
Shrimper
Trick or ruddy treat
 
Shrimper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Essex
Country: United Kingdom
Posts: 72,427
vCash: 50
7* division teams (7 * 4 = 28 games)
2* conference teams (2*10 = 20 games)

Done.

Shrimper is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 07:36 AM
  #7
bigbuffalo313
Registered User
 
bigbuffalo313's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 2,875
vCash: 500
3 games against your division-12 games
2 games against the rest of your conference-20 games
1 game against the othe conference-15 games
12+20+15=47
Throw in one more game against a team from the other conference and you have 48.

bigbuffalo313 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 07:43 AM
  #8
RangerBoy
#freejtmiller
 
RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 31,896
vCash: 500
Rob Rossi reported 28 division games. 4 teams. 7 games. 20 games against the other 2 divisions. 10 teams. 2 games. That's 48 games. January 19 will Rivalry Day. All of the rivals begin the season playing each other. Pitt is playing Philly.

RangerBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 07:47 AM
  #9
I Hate Chris Butler
Backlund Fan Club
 
I Hate Chris Butler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Saskatchewan
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,962
vCash: 300
I haven't had my coffee yet. Gimme a break. 48 is attainable. I counted 6 teams per div. and two games each against the rest. 20 games out of division, 28 in.

I Hate Chris Butler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 09:20 AM
  #10
tony d
Honey Nut Cheerios
 
tony d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Behind A Tree
Country: Canada
Posts: 37,079
vCash: 500
4 games vs. 4 Divisional Rivals (16)
3 games vs. 10 Conference Rivals (30)
2 games vs. Selected Rivals (2)

__________________
tony d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 09:28 AM
  #11
Agalloch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lachute, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,829
vCash: 500
There is a possibility of 52 games too.

8 against division (32) and 2 against the rest of conference (20)

Agalloch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 09:33 AM
  #12
Mr Wentworth
Arch Duke of Raleigh
 
Mr Wentworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 5,449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony d View Post
4 games vs. 4 Divisional Rivals (16)
3 games vs. 10 Conference Rivals (30)
2 games vs. Selected Rivals (2)
Meh.
I like the idea of balance in my schedule.

I want to say, "I want my 'selected rival' to be the worst team in the conference', but, being an Isles fan, I don't know how the Isles can play against themselves.

Mr Wentworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 09:42 AM
  #13
patnyrnyg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,899
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbuffalo313 View Post
3 games against your division-12 games
2 games against the rest of your conference-20 games
1 game against the othe conference-15 games
12+20+15=47
Throw in one more game against a team from the other conference and you have 48.
not a chance. they are not going to sacrifice division games to play the other conference. As a Rangers fan, I would much rather have extra games with the Flyers, Pens, Isles, Devils, than to lose them so they can play Edmonton, Calgary, Phoenix, and Anaheim.

I understand fans of Canadian teams want to play the other Canadian teams, but I doubt you'd see a Sens fan who want to trade games against the Leafs, and Habs so they can play one against the other 4 and also Columbus etc.

patnyrnyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 09:44 AM
  #14
patnyrnyg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,899
vCash: 500
Building availability is also an issue. I am sure they will try to keep as much of the original schedule as possible, but might be difficult to match a pre-determined formula. Although, I believe they already have a schedule for 48-56 games already made and just screwing around until they are ready to start.

patnyrnyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 09:50 AM
  #15
Grimmas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 85
vCash: 500
I would prefer a 50 game season, like during the original 8 era. Gives somebody a chance to get 50 in 50.

Grimmas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 09:56 AM
  #16
Barrie22
Shark fan in hiding
 
Barrie22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,406
vCash: 500
48 games are possible just if you end the season at the normal time to, 94-95 also had the season extended to the end of april so the playoffs start in may.

Barrie22 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 11:20 AM
  #17
Darth Yoda
Registered User
 
Darth Yoda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Grovebranch's Crease
Country: Sweden
Posts: 2,902
vCash: 500
God the Atlantic will have a major impact on its member teams if there's 28 games internal and only 20 against the rest of the Conference. And still we have seeded teams in the conference at position 1-3. It will mess up the standings going into the playoffs even worse then last year.

Darth Yoda is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 01:18 PM
  #18
ashenhigh
Registered User
 
ashenhigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Country: United States
Posts: 1,611
vCash: 500
28 games against division rivals (7 games vs 4 teams)
20 games against your conference (Home and Home vs 10 teams)

48.

ashenhigh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 01:19 PM
  #19
beowulf
Not a nice guy.
 
beowulf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 37,936
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to beowulf
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrimper View Post
7* division teams (7 * 4 = 28 games)
2* conference teams (2*10 = 20 games)

Done.
This is rumored to be what it would be.

beowulf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 01:23 PM
  #20
octopi
Registered User
 
octopi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 30,966
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrimper View Post
7* division teams (7 * 4 = 28 games)
2* conference teams (2*10 = 20 games)

Done.
This is terribly unfair to teams in the central and NW divisions, don't you think?

octopi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-03-2013, 03:49 PM
  #21
PlagerBros*
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 572
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by octopi View Post
This is terribly unfair to teams in the central and NW divisions, don't you think?
You are absolutely right. I think the schedule should be decided by mileage and not by games. Figure out a certain amount of miles traveling and then make the schedule based on everyone hitting those miles. Screw the way the NHL has been for years!

PlagerBros* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-04-2013, 12:43 AM
  #22
Tender Rip
Learning from Scuds?
 
Tender Rip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Shanghai, China
Posts: 12,697
vCash: 500
I would hate if the schedule got as heavy on division matches as is being rumored through our infamous friend Rob Rossi here.

Playing five times against those should be the absolute max in such a short season, preferably four. Obviously, with a congested program travel time has to be a factor anyway so percentage wise there is bound to be less out of conference games.

Tender Rip is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:40 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.