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01-08-2013, 09:06 PM
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I'd hire Rob Ryan in a second. He'd have to figure a proper way of using the 3-4 or 4-3

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Marrone did really well this year with Hackett calling the plays. He really impressed me. The Syracuse forum I frequent is pretty upset Doug is taking Hackett with him. He was also the QB coach for Nassib.

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Graham's next tweet says that he's gonna be the OC.


No issue here. Marrone's an offensive guy, and Hackett probably knows his system best.
Yeah, OC was not really a concern. Did Hackett call the plays at Syracuse or Marrone?

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01-08-2013, 09:11 PM
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So, we are pretty much drafting Nassib now right? lol

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Absolutely not.

IMO, he's the most overrated DC in football today.

His "scheme" is some form of a 3-4 that relies HEAVILY on the blitz. If the blitz doesn't get there, his defenses look really bad really quick.

PLUS, he brings the circus with him -- which isn't something I want a first-time, fresh-out-of-college coach to deal with
Ironically, this Bills team didn't blitz enough!

I don't think Rob is a looney toon. But I don't live in Dallas so I don't know how often he makes media headlines. But he seems more sensible and serious than Rex.

Plus the fact he could embarass baby brother twice a year would have to be appealing. He's also getting Mario, similar to Ware in a big name.

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01-08-2013, 09:16 PM
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Yeah, OC was not really a concern. Did Hackett call the plays at Syracuse or Marrone?
Yeah it wasnt, they could have brought Chan back IMO. Head coach has authority over the OC so i'm sure the head coach would stop him from sending a rookie on a new route with the game on the line or abandoning the run in a close game. I will miss Gailey's screen game.

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01-08-2013, 09:24 PM
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Hackett is 33 years old if I'm reading right..

EDIT: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ffalo-bills-oc

That's as young as it gets. I'm intrigued.

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01-08-2013, 09:31 PM
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I'd hire Rob Ryan in a second. He'd have to figure a proper way of using the 3-4 or 4-3
No thanks. He's had a ton of talent but his defenses in Dallas have been mediocre to bad.

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01-08-2013, 09:34 PM
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Hackett is 33 years old if I'm reading right..

EDIT: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ffalo-bills-oc

That's as young as it gets. I'm intrigued.
The K-Gun sounds awesome...but you need a Jim Kelly type to run it, and probably another good receiver. Spiller/Jackson as Thomas/Davis parallel is there, and Chandler can be Metzelaars...

The question is, do you draft Nassib for his familiarity with the offense? Can he be the signal caller of the new "K-Gun"?

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01-08-2013, 09:44 PM
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The K-Gun sounds awesome...but you need a Jim Kelly type to run it, and probably another good receiver. Spiller/Jackson as Thomas/Davis parallel is there, and Chandler can be Metzelaars...

The question is, do you draft Nassib for his familiarity with the offense? Can he be the signal caller of the new "K-Gun"?
I've only seen Nassib play once, the upset SU win over Louisville this season... I like his size, (6'2", 228 lbs.)... He can run a pro offense...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...h-doug-marrone

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01-08-2013, 09:53 PM
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The question is, do you draft Nassib for his familiarity with the offense? Can he be the signal caller of the new "K-Gun"?
I think the better question is:

Do we take him at 8 or trade back into the first to get him.



Kind of seems that it's fait accompli that he's a Bill in April

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01-08-2013, 10:00 PM
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I think the better question is:

Do we take him at 8 or trade back into the first to get him.



Kind of seems that it's fait accompli that he's a Bill in April
I have basically come to the conclusion that if they think Nassib can become a good QB, why risk him getting taken before the second round when it might set you back another year with your plans to move forward at QB?

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01-08-2013, 10:11 PM
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I'd take Nassib at #8 no question. If Ryan freaking Tannehill can go #8 so can Nassib.

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I think the better question is:

Do we take him at 8 or trade back into the first to get him.



Kind of seems that it's fait accompli that he's a Bill in April
You take the best player available. Meeting your needs of course. I'm not sure if he's better than say a Te'o. Granted last night was the first time he played a real opponent and he got owned.

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I'd take Nassib at #8 no question. If Ryan freaking Tannehill can go #8 so can Nassib.
Exactly, if the coaches can get the most out of Nassib and he turns into a good QB (not elite) that's a building block and stability in the most critical position for the next decade.

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I'd take Nassib at #8 no question. If Ryan freaking Tannehill can go #8 so can Nassib.
Sure, anything can happen...but nobody said Miami was smart either. But we've seen the Bills make some real reaches at around this naumber. No sense in doing it again. They should realize from the last decade that the draft is the place to fix issues and if you don't you get what they've given the last decade.

I don't think Nassib is such a demand that he will go before Round 2 if they don't take him at #8.

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01-08-2013, 10:17 PM
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You take the best player available. Meeting your needs of course.
It's that thinking that landed us Maybin, Whitner, McCargo, et al......

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01-08-2013, 10:24 PM
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It's that thinking that landed us Maybin, Whitner, McCargo, et al......
Lol, what?

That was just bad drafting. Whitner was a reach. Maybin wasn't the best DE available, etc...

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It's that thinking that landed us Maybin, Whitner, McCargo, et al......
None of those guys were the best player available according to really anyone

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The K-Gun sounds awesome...but you need a Jim Kelly type to run it, and probably another good receiver. Spiller/Jackson as Thomas/Davis parallel is there, and Chandler can be Metzelaars...

The question is, do you draft Nassib for his familiarity with the offense? Can he be the signal caller of the new "K-Gun"?
The K-Gun sounds okay it's just you need a QB to do it. Not sure Fitz or Nassib are that guy. You need a Brees or rodgers type. Elite QB.

I'm getting a bit concerned that this may become Syracuse West. Sure, they improved a bit but let's not get carried away here either. 8-5 in College Football isn't that great(7-5 gets you to a Bowl game but you're one different result from being a .r500 result and depending on who you lose to 6-6 doesn't get you to a bowl game. I remember they played USC but I would bet some FCS team or two was on the schedule which helps a record out some.)

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Lol, what?

That was just bad drafting. Whitner was a reach. Maybin wasn't the best DE available, etc...
Whitner was a reach but he hasn't turned in the worst career. The other two were horrible picks. Is McCargo even in the league anymore? Maybin shouldn't be. I'm not sure what inspired either but Maybin didn't do a whole lot in college.

We could go on and on about picks, but Whitner is the only one of those guys who had done something in college that garnered attention(Going to tOSU doesn't hurt)Whitner has done alright, it's just it wasn't while in Buffalo...lol

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Don't mind the OC choice. Don't know anything about him but it makes sense and it certainly was not nearly as urgent a need as DC

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I've only seen Nassib play once, the upset SU win over Louisville this season... I like his size, (6'2", 228 lbs.)... He can run a pro offense...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...h-doug-marrone
Uh, the Nassib stuff aside, is it really a foregone conclusion that Fitz is gone? I haven't heard anything to that effect. Feelings on Fitz aside: unless they plan to bring in another FA vet, it makes no sense to draft a raw prospect at QB and have Tyler ****ing Thigpen as your fallback.

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It's that thinking that landed us Maybin, Whitner, McCargo, et al......
Im pretty sure we passed up Ngata to get Whit so ...yeah

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Glad they went after the guy with the "extensive" NFL experience they wanted.

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