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Luongo: The Neverending Story

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01-06-2013, 08:50 PM
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As would I. Weiss+ for Luongo would be most ideal return at this point.
On paper it makes sense.

Except the fact that Weiss is Floridas best forward on a team lacking offensive talent.

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As would I. Weiss+ for Luongo would be most ideal return at this point.
I wouldnt trade Weiss for Luongo+ personally. He is far more important to the Panthers then Roberto would be.

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Hasn't there been talk of Weiss being unwilling to re-sign in Florida? I thought that is where the possibility of Weiss being moved was brought up. If that's the case, then perhaps Florida would rather have the guy who's signed long term and a likely bigger impact player than the guy that could walk in 7 months.

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Change the 3rd to a 1st and I might consider it. Franson doesn't really fit since Tanev is better than him and we still have Ballard for the rest of the year (Who is also better than Franson), Franson is a waste of talent as a 7th defensemen and Alberts is great in that 7th D role anyways.

Bozak, Frattin, 1st.

Maybe, would like a prospect since Bozak is a Pending UFA and who knows if we will re-sign him since we will need cap space for Edler and have Schroeder, Kassian, Jensen coming up, even Gaunce might be ready for a long look in the pre-season.

Not sure at this point, I think we could get something better from FLA.
There is no realistic scenario where the Leafs trade first for Luongo.

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01-06-2013, 08:54 PM
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There is no realistic scenario where the Leafs trade first for Luongo.
If it were conditional on them making the playoffs?

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Luongo to Ottawa for Latendresse

Luongo to Detroit for Abdelkader

Luongo to TB for Malone

Luongo to Florida for spare parts.

I think these are possibles and are the type of trade I expect. If you look at the Kassian trade, Gillis traded for a guy he had on his wish list. With sparse data, I have to guess he will do the same sort of trade again.

Given Luongo's stated preference for Florida and Talon's reluctance, I think TB must be considered a possible destination. Luongo is from Montreal and might like to be nearby but pay Ontario taxes. Detroit is one of the places Luongo seems to enjoy playing and he has praised the fans there before.

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01-06-2013, 08:56 PM
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If it were conditional on them making the playoffs?
I said realistic lol. That condition would never be made.

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Hasn't there been talk of Weiss being unwilling to re-sign in Florida? I thought that is where the possibility of Weiss being moved was brought up. If that's the case, then perhaps Florida would rather have the guy who's signed long term and a likely bigger impact player than the guy that could walk in 7 months.
He says he doesn't want to negotiate during the season because it will be a distraction. But he is open to signing here after the season. Not sure if Panthers are willing to take that risk letting him walk for free.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/1...t-stephen.html

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01-06-2013, 09:06 PM
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On paper it makes sense.

Except the fact that Weiss is Floridas best forward on a team lacking offensive talent.
Except the fact he is most likely not going to be there, and would likely be a rental later on that wouldn't get anything close to what Luongo is worth at the deadline as a rental if they chose to do that.

I can understand them not wanting to give up Weiss since he is a huge help right now but in the big picture I think it is more benefical for them to get Lu in return for him.

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There is no realistic scenario where the Leafs trade first for Luongo.
Then we will need a prospect, MG isn't taking garbage.

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Luongo to Ottawa for Latendresse

Luongo to Detroit for Abdelkader

Luongo to TB for Malone

Luongo to Florida for spare parts.

I think these are possibles and are the type of trade I expect. If you look at the Kassian trade, Gillis traded for a guy he had on his wish list. With sparse data, I have to guess he will do the same sort of trade again.

Given Luongo's stated preference for Florida and Talon's reluctance, I think TB must be considered a possible destination. Luongo is from Montreal and might like to be nearby but pay Ontario taxes. Detroit is one of the places Luongo seems to enjoy playing and he has praised the fans there before.
Detriot has Howard, and he wouldn't trade him for just Abdelkader.

Ottawa isn't all that realistic, they have a capable goalie and has other needs that need to be addressed with there assets.

I trust that Tampa Bay isn't interested, they did pay a considerable price to get Lindback and will probably give him a there confidence and a good shot before they jump into the Luongo market.

Mg won't take spare parts, if he did a deal would be done long long long ago.

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01-06-2013, 09:09 PM
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It will be funny to watch the reactions when he is traded to chicago or edmonton for less then what people are talking about. Not only will the Canuck fans flip out but the leaf fans would too.
I doubt Leafs fans would flip out.

I have mixed feelings about Luongo. I don't think we are ready to make that trade yet. One more bad year, with a bumper crop of prospects available this year, and then I think we are ready to go. Trading for Luongo in the off season, is something that makes more sense for the Leafs than now. The Leafs could really benefit long-term from picking up one of the elite forwards available, and Luongo would make us just good enough to miss out on these picks, but not good enough to really compete.

Having said that, a goalie of Luongo's talent doesn't become available every day, so if you can get him, you have to try.

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01-06-2013, 09:14 PM
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He says he doesn't want to negotiate during the season because it will be a distraction. But he is open to signing here after the season. Not sure if Panthers are willing to take that risk letting him walk for free.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/1...t-stephen.html
Kind of similar to Parise.....

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01-06-2013, 09:24 PM
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Again, incorrect. The main reason is age - Luongo has 2-3 years left as an elite goalie, whereas Schneider has 8-10.
Big difference is that Schneider hasn't proven to be an elite goalie yet, he's only proven about as much as Devan Dubnyk.

Before the Oiler haters get on this post, I'm not turning this into a Schneider vs. Dubnyk thread. All I'm saying is that Schneider DEFINITELY isn't an elite goalie YET.

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01-06-2013, 09:32 PM
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Big difference is that Schneider hasn't proven to be an elite goalie yet, he's only proven about as much as Devan Dubnyk.

Before the Oiler haters get on this post, I'm not turning this into a Schneider vs. Dubnyk thread. All I'm saying is that Schneider DEFINITELY isn't an elite goalie YET.
Schneider > Dubnyk

Dubnyk is a good young goalie but Schneider is better. Schneider has proven himself as a legit starter in my mind, not elite yet but a starter, Dubnyk hasn't proven himself as a legit starter.

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Kypreos again hints at Bozak and Kadri being the _players_ involved. Shannon is mum. But he thinks it's assured.


Edit: Keenan just confirms that they had a Luongo for Thornton deal done and his owner didn't want to do that deal. Wow.

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I hope to god Luongo gets traded to Florida and not Toronto. Don't want to give Kadri up for him.

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Luongo on the possibility of being traded, including to Toronto.

http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=pipe42/latest/1/0/838043/clip/0

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Keenan just said he once had a 1 for 1 trade Luongo for Thornton but Panthers owner veoted it.

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I hope to god Luongo gets traded to Florida and not Toronto. Don't want to give Kadri up for him.

Quick, somebody shop Kadri in a VAN jersey...



There will be mixed feelings all around if a deal goes down with TOR. Many VAN fans favoured a deal with FLA instead.

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Schneider > Dubnyk

Dubnyk is a good young goalie but Schneider is better. Schneider has proven himself as a legit starter in my mind, not elite yet but a starter, Dubnyk hasn't proven himself as a legit starter.
Do you having any reasoning behind this statement?

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Kypreos again hints at Bozak and Kadri being the _players_ involved. Shannon is mum. But he thinks it's assured.


Edit: Keenan just confirms that they had a Luongo for Thornton deal done and his owner didn't want to do that deal. Wow.
Did Kypreos mention anything about draft picks or not?

Keenan mentioned that a long time ago so it's old news.

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Watch him traded to Chicago now or something.

How would Canuck fans feel about that?

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Quick, somebody shop Kadri in a VAN jersey...



There will be mixed feelings all around if a deal goes down with TOR. Many VAN fans favoured a deal with FLA instead.
Haha. I don't want Kadri traded in general. He's my favourite Leafs prospect. I don't hate Vancouver (second favourite team). In fact if Kadri were to be traded Vancouver would be the second team I would want it to go to BUT I really want Kadri to stay as a leafs. I believe he has high potential.

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Did Kypreos mention anything about draft picks or not?

Keenan mentioned that a long time ago so it's old news.

I know that Keenan mentioned it, but I thought his owner nixing the deal was new?


Kypreos just referenced the players involved. Nothing about picks... yet.

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Did Kypreos mention anything about draft picks or not?

Keenan mentioned that a long time ago so it's old news.
No, just Bozak and Kadri but his comments were more teasing John Shannon than anything else.

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Did Kypreos mention anything about draft picks or not?

Keenan mentioned that a long time ago so it's old news.
nope he didn't mention picks. Shannon said that he was adamant that a deal was going to get done but wasn't going to name names. Kypreos chimed in and mentioned Bozak and Kadri's names. To me there has to be some fire to this because Bozak's and Kadri's names have been rumoured for a long time now and neither person is backing down from it especially Shannon. And with Shannon he's well connected. I think this happens.

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