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01-10-2013, 09:06 AM
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Defensive Core

Ive noticed in a few other threads people were a bit concerned with our D depth. As i see it here are the starters for gm 1:

Chara Seidenberg
Manchuk Ference
Mcquaid ?

Its a very solid 2 lines to carry the brunt of the workload. The 3rd line is the question I suppose. Is it a guarantee that Hamilton is being called up and staying? If not Hamilton, or if someone goes down injured whos an NHL caliber d available to us?

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Unless he runs over Chia's dog, Hamilton is staying.

McQuaid won't be playing until February at the earliest because of surgery for a blood clot.

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hmm so who fills in for Mcquaid then

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hmm so who fills in for Mcquaid then
Aaron Johnson.

I wouldn't be surprised to see PC add another FA either. Maybe Mottau even.

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I think the D is probably the biggest area of concern for me at this stage but Julien`s approach to the defensive side of things "seems" to allow for some concern to be lessened. Time will tell of course, I`m most worried about Horty`s health and his ability to not play hesitant and the general health of our boys coming out of the shoot so quickly more than a thin-ish looking blueline

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Ive noticed in a few other threads people were a bit concerned with our D depth. As i see it here are the starters for gm 1:

Chara Seidenberg
Manchuk Ference
Mcquaid ?

Its a very solid 2 lines to carry the brunt of the workload. The 3rd line is the question I suppose. Is it a guarantee that Hamilton is being called up and staying? If not Hamilton, or if someone goes down injured whos an NHL caliber d available to us?
Who is this Manchuk dude? Does he use the nanchuks?

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I'd like to see Mike Mattau back as opposed to someone else for that last spot while McQuaid recovers

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Woulda been nice to keep zanon

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Woulda been nice to keep zanon
Yeah, exactly the type of guy who could have replaced McQuaid

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I don't know. Zanon didn't really do much for me last year. I'd be fine with bringing Mottau back as he's had some type learning Julien's system already. But right now, I'm a bit concerned with our depth back there.

I'm assuming Chiarelli can't sign anyone until the PA ratifies the CBA, correct?

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If they are just looking for a stop gap, Mattau would work and if the defense is going to have Hamilton and AHL guy or two AHL guys, my guess is Boychuk and Ference will be split between the 2nd and 3rd pairs at least until McQuaid is cleared to play.

I for one am not overly impressed with the team's defensive depth-they don't seem to have too many players once you move past the top 5 on the books (not counting Hamilton or some other AHL call up since none have much NHL experience). Mattau might be a good option at least he comes with NHL experience and Bruins experience.

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Unless there's an injury to the top 4, it's no biggie. Short season. Work the top 4 like dogs.

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I think the D is probably the biggest area of concern for me at this stage but Julien`s approach to the defensive side of things "seems" to allow for some concern to be lessened. Time will tell of course, I`m most worried about Horty`s health and his ability to not play hesitant and the general health of our boys coming out of the shoot so quickly more than a thin-ish looking blueline
Lots of questions...
  • The D and Hamilton's adjustment.
  • Horton's health.
  • Will the PP ever improve?
  • How will Rask handle the reigns?
  • Who will fill the 3LW slot and will they be effective enough to give us that all important balanced attack the B's offense depends on?

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Lots of questions...
  • The D and Hamilton's adjustment.
  • Horton's health.
  • Will the PP ever improve?
  • How will Rask handle the reigns?
  • Who will fill the 3LW slot and will they be effective enough to give us that all important balanced attack the B's offense depends on?
Any answer predictions for your questions?

I'll go first:

- Hamilton's adjustment will be rough. But we'll see flashes of greatness right away. If we're patient, those flashes will become his entire game. But there will be a lot of people who lose their mind before that point hits. The rest of the questions on defense will be unspectacular, but solid.

- Horton will play hesitant for a while, but his game will improve. I also think his goals per game will increase as his urgency to get rid of the puck will cause him to use his shot quicker and more effectively.

- Nowhere for our powerplay to go but up.

- Rask will be just fine - IF he handles the more frequent breakdowns in defensive coverage without mentally breaking. Khudobin will provide the needed push at the backup position.

- LW is a gong show right now. Julien will want to be safe and I will disagree with him... it will be a frustration for me and most of the rest of the boards for the shortened season.

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Any answer predictions for your questions?
  • The D and Hamilton's adjustment.
    I think Hamilton is in for a Seguin-esque rookie season. Maybe a little better because I don't think Hamilton will be timid like Seguin was. Still, Dougie has no sense of positioning/structure and will see sheltered minutes in the 3rd pair and some power play time. Then watch the playoffs from the stands. Folks will lose their minds like you said , but he'll be better for it and come back like a boss next season.
  • Horton's health.
    Just when Horton gets it going he gets croaked. He keeps it to himself and plays through it because it's a contract year, but loses a lot of his effectiveness. (Really hope I'm wrong here.)
  • Will the PP ever improve?
    Yes. Seguin takes the reigns on the PP and makes it go. This is where Hamilton also has a positive impact on the team.
  • How will Rask handle the reigns?
    Rask will be dominant and garner Vezina consideration but will fade in the playoffs because he only weighs 116 lbs.
  • Who will fill the 3LW slot and will they be effective enough to give us that all important balanced attack the B's offense depends on?
    I think they'll go thru some people auditioning for this job until Caron is ready and then he'll step in and play better in the N than he did in the A. At the end of the year, Caron will ask for a trade to MTL because that's where he really wanted to go in the draft and he feels dirty in Bruins colors.

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Unless there's an injury to the top 4, it's no biggie. Short season. Work the top 4 like dogs.
I'd argue that depth is even more important during the rigors of a shortened season.

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I'd argue that depth is even more important during the rigors of a shortened season.
Nah. Once McQuaid comes back, we'll be deeper and more talented on paper than we were last year. That's more than adequate, barring any injuries obviously. If we have any major ones to our top 2 or 3, it doesn't really matter how deep we are. We'd be screwed regardless.

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You think Hamilton will get some 1st line PP time? Why not? Our PP was horrendous. Maybe Dougie on the point with Chara and Seguin off the half wall, we could be damn near 15th for PP%!!

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Unless he runs over Chia's dog, Hamilton is staying.
I would be surprised if Hamilton stayed with the big club.
6 games will be very hard to evaluate a young player, and would the
B's really want to burn a year of his contract for 48 games ?

Don't know how he is currently playing, so if he is tearing up his
current league, and isn't learning anything, then that changes
things.

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I would be surprised if Hamilton stayed with the big club.
6 games will be very hard to evaluate a young player, and would the
B's really want to burn a year of his contract for 48 games ?

Don't know how he is currently playing, so if he is tearing up his
current league, and isn't learning anything, then that changes
things.
Prepare to be surprised. Hamilton was OHL Defenseman of the Year last season and is indeed tearing up the league again this year (still leading defensemen in scoring even though he was in the WJC). No reason to stay in junior, and the Bruins need him. There will certainly be bumps along the way but he'll be in Boston.

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I think they'll make a trade for another D man within 3 weeks of the season starting. I bet they go into camp with what they have, take a look at their options for the bottom pairing until McQuaid gets back (Johnson, Hamilton, Bartkowski, Warsofsky), and then decide how to move forward.

I'd be concerned if there was a void in the top 4 that you were looking to fill, but there are going to be 5/6 type depth guys available for trade in the next few weeks when jobs are stolen unexpectedly from short camps.

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Other teams wish they had "concerns" about how one spot on the 3rd line will be filled

Plenty out there questioning their first lines

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I would be surprised if Hamilton stayed with the big club.
6 games will be very hard to evaluate a young player, and would the
B's really want to burn a year of his contract for 48 games ?

Don't know how he is currently playing, so if he is tearing up his
current league, and isn't learning anything, then that changes
things.
Chia and Company seem to care more about long term benefits rather than concern themselves about burning a year of a kids contract.

Their history of being able to re-sign players makes it a non issue for them by all appearances......see Segs as a solid example

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Other teams wish they had "concerns" about how one spot on the 3rd line will be filled

Plenty out there questioning their first lines
So true. The Bruins are like someone trying to decide whether the pearl or diamond necklace looks better, whereas some others clubs are trying to find a pair of socks with no holes.

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