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01-06-2013, 11:27 AM
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01-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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Look at the source and I don't mean Hardy/Troup. Everyone else is saying the 19th.
It could start the 15th and a 50 game sched. (5 vs teams in division, 3 vs teams in conference)

All depends on how fast lawyers type it up and how fast ratification happens on both sides.

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01-06-2013, 11:30 AM
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Look at the source and I don't mean Hardy/Troup. Everyone else is saying the 19th.
Well aware. To be fair he did say it was most likely the 19th.

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01-06-2013, 11:32 AM
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Very excited to get this season started. Have my fantasy keeper league draft next Sunday. Great day.

Thanks to Dom, Dan and others who kept the information flowing.

And Dan, I ordered the McKeen's guide on your rec. It should arrive sometime this week.

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01-06-2013, 11:36 AM
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It could start the 15th and a 50 game sched. (5 vs teams in division, 3 vs teams in conference)

All depends on how fast lawyers type it up and how fast ratification happens on both sides.

NHL BOG expected to vote Tuesday
The 19th is better IMO. Guys need to get back in town and have a little time to practice. Just happy it's finally over. Maybe I'll actually get to go to Toronto after all.

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01-06-2013, 11:40 AM
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The 19th is better IMO. Guys need to get back in town and have a little time to practice. Just happy it's finally over. Maybe I'll actually get to go to Toronto after all.
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01-06-2013, 11:46 AM
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I fully expect JJ to solidify his reputation as a total d$&khead by voting against the deal...not that it matters so long as he returns to that private box in the rafters and stays there.

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01-06-2013, 11:47 AM
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Thank friggin god. Looks like a solid deal all around too. Variance is interesting with the league moving up to 35 percent and a 50 percent overall limit.

I assume there is a rule in there that you can't renegotiate with your own buyout(s)?

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01-06-2013, 11:57 AM
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Thank friggin god. Looks like a solid deal all around too. Variance is interesting with the league moving up to 35 percent and a 50 percent overall limit.

I assume there is a rule in there that you can't renegotiate with your own buyout(s)?
No word on that yet, but it would not shock me if there is not. Which is why the NHLPA wanted 2.

Theoretically, Bruins could buy out Chara and resign him at a salary that is his current salary minus the buy out amount and reduce their cap hit.

The amount of the buy out counts towards the players share of HRR but not against the teams cap, so theoretically the players share wouldn't change.

Example:

Player earns $7 million ($7 million counts against players share of HRR)
Player is bought out for $3 million ($3 million counts against players share of HRR, but not against team's cap)
Player resigns for $4 million (4 million counts against players share of HRR)

Player still gets his money (depending on the terms of the buyout - $$ and yrs), Hrr remains the same and team gets a lower cap hit

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01-06-2013, 12:00 PM
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No word on that yet, but it would not shock me if there is not. Which is why the NHLPA wanted 2.

Theoretically, Bruins could buy out Chara and resign him at a salary that is his current salary minus the buy out amount and reduce their cap hit.

The amount of the buy out counts towards the players share of HRR but not against the teams cap, so theoretically the players share wouldn't change.

Example:

Player earns $7 million ($7 million counts against players share of HRR)
Player is bought out for $3 million ($3 million counts against players share of HRR, but not against team's cap)
Player resigns for $4 million (4 million counts against players share of HRR)

Player still gets his money (depending on the terms of the buyout - $$ and yrs), Hrr remains the same and team gets a lower cap hit
Hmm never even considered that. That certainly would be a way to lower some of those bigger cap hits, while ensuring the player still earns all of the money. Seems kind of NFLish with restructuring deals, etc.

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01-06-2013, 12:04 PM
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Thanks for all the info Dom. Also Dan, JMiller and EverettMike for all the good posting throughout. I refrained from posting much of anything in these threads because I was not entirely sure how all of this worked. Learned a lot these past few months.

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No word on that yet, but it would not shock me if there is not. Which is why the NHLPA wanted 2.

Theoretically, Bruins could buy out Chara and resign him at a salary that is his current salary minus the buy out amount and reduce their cap hit.

The amount of the buy out counts towards the players share of HRR but not against the teams cap, so theoretically the players share wouldn't change.

Example:

Player earns $7 million ($7 million counts against players share of HRR)
Player is bought out for $3 million ($3 million counts against players share of HRR, but not against team's cap)
Player resigns for $4 million (4 million counts against players share of HRR)

Player still gets his money (depending on the terms of the buyout - $$ and yrs), Hrr remains the same and team gets a lower cap hit
Wow, that'd be crazy. Chara on a 3 mill cap hit.

Like the new rule in which all teams that don't qualify for the playoffs get a shot at 1st overall as well. They should call it the Toronto rule.

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01-06-2013, 12:06 PM
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Man the nhl was right. They have a bunch of fans that just couldn't wait throw their hard earned money at them. Aren't you guys gonna tax them at all?

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01-06-2013, 12:09 PM
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Man the nhl was right. They have a bunch of fans that just couldn't wait throw their hard earned money at them. Aren't you guys gonna tax them at all?
I was going to go to a game this year and won't now. I'm not buying any NHL gear this year either. That's about all I can do. I don't get center ice so that's a mute point

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Thanks for all the info Dom. Also Dan, JMiller and EverettMike for all the good posting throughout. I refrained from posting much of anything in these threads because I was not entirely sure how all of this worked. Learned a lot these past few months.
Amen.was coming here to point this out as well. Disagreed w EM and JM but they showed they are the best of the best. And dom man this place is lucky I would have been lost without him. And of course Dan. Keeping us grounded and reasonable. Love them.

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01-06-2013, 12:11 PM
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Wow, that'd be crazy. Chara on a 3 mill cap hit.

Like the new rule in which all teams that don't qualify for the playoffs get a shot at 1st overall as well. They should call it the Toronto rule.
Also to be noted on that:

If you've had a first overall pick in the prior 3 years that team loses a ball in the lottery.

Call that the Edmonton rule.

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Amen.was coming here to point this out as well. Disagreed w EM and JM but they showed they are the best of the best. And dom man this place is lucky I would have been lost without him. And of course Dan. Keeping us grounded and reasonable. Love them.
Pretty much. Tons of quality posters here, even if I don't agree with them 100%.

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Also to be noted on that:

If you've had a first overall pick in the prior 3 years that team loses a ball in the lottery.

Call that the Edmonton rule.
Really like that.

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Amen.was coming here to point this out as well. Disagreed w EM and JM but they showed they are the best of the best. And dom man this place is lucky I would have been lost without him. And of course Dan. Keeping us grounded and reasonable. Love them.
BTW

Not ignoring all the kind words. It is much appreciated.

But I do it for the love of the game not for any gratification from anyone - its not required.

There are plenty of people that get information they can't share. Luckily, I cover the OHL and my hands/mouth aren't tied by anyone to say anything about the NHL (although in some cases you don't want to burn any bridges)

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Siap, but did anyone catch this? Pretty cool by TSN.http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=pipe42%2Flat...877%2Fclip%2F0

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Thanks guys.

Oh, and also this:

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Not to belabor the obvious, but this agreement is suspiciously close to the PA's Dec. 6 proposal to which the NHL responded with a tantrum.

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Thanks guys.

Oh, and also this:

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Not to belabor the obvious, but this agreement is suspiciously close to the PA's Dec. 6 proposal to which the NHL responded with a tantrum.
The obligatory bad news tweet.

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LOL ESPN is saying hockey is behind Cricket and they are bashing thier TV deal typical ESPN Don't cover one lick of it once it is back gotta destroy it lets have all of our baskettball analysts debate wethere hockey is behind Cricket oh well.

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I am glad for everyone that is excited, whether as a fan or a person whose livelihood was affected by this, but I could personally not be any more apathetic about this.

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