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01-06-2013, 12:46 AM
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Sue me but I thought murphy played really well this game. Its just IDIOTIC to put our two weakest D defensively (and physically) on the same pair. That was just asking for disaster and this is not the hindsight in me talking. Everyone and their mother knew things would eventually go wrong with those two on the ice at the same time on even strength.

4 on 4 is not a powerplay!
Murphy was solid for the first couple periods but after that he got really cocky with the puck which led to a few neutral zone turnovers.

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These are my thoughts exactly. What a terrible decision to put two guys who need the puck to be succesful together.
I'm still baffled by Spott's decision to pair these guys up a couple games ago. Anyone with decent hockey knowledge would know to not put those two players together.

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01-06-2013, 12:51 AM
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Ironically, I thought Murphy had his best game of the tournament tonight, until he looked completely lost on the OT winner. Offensively, he showed up tonight. Defensively, he still looks really shaky.

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01-06-2013, 01:02 AM
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Like I thought..over-reacting.

Do me a favour and do an analysis of all the countries and where they stand for their forward group then tell me Canada doesn't match up will you?

Perhaps Canada is in a lull for top end offensive talent, but this country produces more than enough forwards to not be in trouble.

Canada willl once again be the favorite next year despite being 'in trouble' up front..
Why dont you do us all a favour and cut the condescending horse ****?

Maybe you could tell me which one of Tom Wilson, Brendan Gaunce, Scott Laughton or Mark Jankowski is going to run our pp?

Or maybe Mitch Moroz is going to turn into Milan Lucic by next December?

Dont talk down to me about who will or wont be available. Im pretty sure Ive got at least as good a grasp on the subject as you do.

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01-06-2013, 01:32 AM
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Eberle scores, Quinn's a genius. Eberle doesn't score, Quinn's a bum.
If Toews didn't score in the shootout 3 times... you can do this with almost any coach all day long.

If if if... who cares.

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01-06-2013, 01:40 AM
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If Toews didn't score in the shootout 3 times... you can do this with almost any coach all day long.

If if if... who cares.
u r rite,,, spott is genius,,,, binningototonnn bad goalie,,,, make genius spott look bad,,,, fake lighting,,,, usa not good at stick puck,,,, they play football,,,comma,,,

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01-06-2013, 01:54 AM
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Why dont you do us all a favour and cut the condescending horse ****?

Maybe you could tell me which one of Tom Wilson, Brendan Gaunce, Scott Laughton or Mark Jankowski is going to run our pp?

Or maybe Mitch Moroz is going to turn into Milan Lucic by next December?

Dont talk down to me about who will or wont be available. Im pretty sure Ive got at least as good a grasp on the subject as you do.
Is that the same Brendan Gaunce who was just the OHL player of the week and is coming off a 4 point outing tonight?


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01-06-2013, 01:56 AM
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Is that the same Brendan Gaunce who was just the OHL player of the week and is coming off a 4 point outing tonight?

Player of the week?

Gold medal here we come!

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Player of the week?

Gold medal here we come!
Can't exactly do much worse than with Golden Boy at the helm, no?

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01-06-2013, 02:21 AM
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Eberle scores, Quinn's a genius. Eberle doesn't score, Quinn's a bum.
For some, that would have been the case. For me, the true degree of separation between Spott and every other comparison is that I have never seen Canada be so outclassed in a game like they did against the Americans. They looked downright horrific. Absolute props to the Americans for their performance, to be sure, but there's a difference between Canada getting beat, which is going to happen, and Canada looking completely outclassed and unprepared. THAT, I have not seen in some time at this level.

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01-06-2013, 02:39 AM
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So I hear Canada didn't win a medal.... eh!

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01-06-2013, 02:39 AM
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For some, that would have been the case. For me, the true degree of separation between Spott and every other comparison is that I have never seen Canada be so outclassed in a game like they did against the Americans. They looked downright horrific. Absolute props to the Americans for their performance, to be sure, but there's a difference between Canada getting beat, which is going to happen, and Canada looking completely outclassed and unprepared. THAT, I have not seen in some time at this level.
We saw it a year ago in Calgary. Some flukey late goals covered it up a bit, but we got run over just as bad then as we did now. Its becoming a regular occurrence in the medal round.

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01-06-2013, 02:44 AM
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Can't exactly do much worse than with Golden Boy at the helm, no?
Is this some kind of weak troll attempt?

Yes, RNH scoring more points than any Canadian captain in WJC history was the reason for the poor showing of team Canada.

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01-06-2013, 02:46 AM
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Is this some kind of weak troll attempt?
Every HF board trolling attempt is weak.

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Insightful Bob Mckenzie article on Canada at the 2013 WJC.

I'm not sure if it has been posted yet (apologies if it has), but I just read a pretty level-headed and accurate article on Team Canada at this year's world juniors. As always Mckenzie has a way to put things into perspective and I almost agree with everything he says here.

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/story/?id=412861

I think Canadian fans all too often look for someone to blame when in fact sometimes, it is just an entire team failure.

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01-06-2013, 02:48 AM
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Bob Mckenzie always has been level headed and intelligent. It's always the comments at the bottom of the article's that are a hilarious.

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01-06-2013, 05:29 AM
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Well, I spent 5 minutes reading this. It seems, according to Mckenzie, this year's excuse is the way selection of the players has been performed. It is completely in line with Canadian perception of hockey - we cannot lose due to worse hockey team. Okay. Nothing new.

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01-06-2013, 06:12 AM
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Bad article. Once again a lot of talk about this mystical under performing, laying and egg, etc.

No mention of even a possibility of other countries having better hockey teams.

Nope, never, Canada always beats itself, under performs, selects the wrong players, is missing players, has a worse selection procedure than USA yada yada yada.

Excuses galore.

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Bad article. Once again a lot of talk about this mystical under performing, laying and egg, etc.

No mention of even a possibility of other countries having better hockey teams.

Nope, never, Canada always beats itself, under performs, selects the wrong players, is missing players, has a worse selection procedure than USA yada yada yada.

Excuses galore.
This.

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01-06-2013, 06:52 AM
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OH look - two who haven't read the article....

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Not many words about USA being the most dominant team in the tournament. Why not just face the fact that Canada was the 4th best team in this tournament and move on?

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01-06-2013, 06:53 AM
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I don't know what's more pathetic, foreigners commenting and complaining about an article being bad because it focuses on Canada, or just commenting out of the biased out of their ass.

No because Russia and Sweden never write articles in the past about their team dropping out like failures in a tournament.
If you don't like Canadian hockey sites, stay the **** away from it.

I love how every international always rags on a Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, TSN, CBC article and post it to discuss. The irony and double standards and stupidity in that makes it even more funny.


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I don't know what's more pathetic, foreigners commenting and complaining about an article being bad because it focuses on Canada, or just commenting out of the biased out of their ass.

No because Russia and Sweden never write articles in the past about their team.
If you don't like Canadian hockey, stay the **** away from it.
Even if it's an article for Canadian readers, McKenzie could still give some credit for other teams, instead of making it out as Canada must have failed miserably to not have won.

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01-06-2013, 06:57 AM
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Really

there's an old adage:

Players play, coaches coach, everyone else watches.

I might also add that everyone else kibitz's (sp?) LOL

Look HC has the benefit of the best development league in the world in the CHL,
they have a national commitment to the game and to develop the young players.

But in the end, players play and coaches coach.

Did they come out flat in the Semi gam against te USA ? Hell yes. But it was reported that RNH talked to the team the night before about the issue while they were preparing for the game. And still they came out the way they did.

Remember Gibson has been channeling Jim Craig all tourney and has made big save after big save. But so has Subban and without Binningtons relief performance the semi final iy might have been 7 or 8 to one. Hopefully Binnington can put the Russia game behind him and Subban can too (he's freakishly athletic a little technical tuning.... oh my(

As I've told many a player, learn to accept defeat, but never learn to like it, take your own measure as to your performance and learn from your mistakes. The worst regret they will ever have as athletes is that they didn't give their very best effort. not the winning or the losing, but the striving is what matters. and maybe what haunts us in old age.

And to all in Canada, Thanks for being the very best 'neighbor' a country can have.

Whenever I played, hearing "Oh Canada" was my psyche song

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Even if it's an article for Canadian readers, McKenzie could still give some credit for other teams, instead of making it out as Canada must have failed miserably to not have won.
Here let's roll out the red carpet and feed you grapes, because your royal majesty needs to be treated with special recognition.

Hate for Canadian writers, posters, fans, journalists, players in both writing and taunting by players and fan. Yet, you all flock to our media like a flies to a lamp.

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It sucks that we lost, but we need to lose the attitude that Gold medals are just going to be handed to us on a silver platter and everyone else is playing for Silver. It hasn't been true for decades.

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