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01-04-2013, 06:28 PM
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Anisimov to EDM

Edmontons top 6 looks good all around, with 2 exceptions, A big centerman and size. That being said EDM would benefit greatly with a bigger centerman in Anisimov. Also another Russian to play with yakupov

Anisimov for

Gagner
Hartikainen
one of Teubert/Peckham/Potter

Would rather not trade Harti, but i think this would complete our top 6. In all honesty I believe Gagner is fully capable of being our long term #2, but almost every fan I spoke with disagrees.Columbus probably doesn't want to trade a player they recently acquired but lets see how this goes !

Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Harti/Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov

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(I think we overpay, no homer)

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01-04-2013, 06:36 PM
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Edmontons top 6 looks good all around, with 2 exceptions, A big centerman and size. That being said EDM would benefit greatly with a bigger centerman in Anisimov. Also another Russian to play with yakupov

Anisimov for

Gagner
Hartikainen
one of Teubert/Peckham/Potter

Would rather not trade Harti, but i think this would complete our top 6. In all honesty I believe Gagner is fully capable of being our long term #2, but almost every fan I spoke with disagrees.Columbus probably doesn't want to trade a player they recently acquired but lets see how this goes !

Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Harti/Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov

vs.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hemsky-Anisimov-Yakupov

(I think we overpay, no homer)
Anisimov may be a good fit, but he doesn't have much more value that Gagner at this point. A Gagner for Anisimov swap may be more realistic and plausible.

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01-04-2013, 06:38 PM
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Edmontons top 6 looks good all around, with 2 exceptions, A big centerman and size. That being said EDM would benefit greatly with a bigger centerman in Anisimov. Also another Russian to play with yakupov

Anisimov for

Gagner
Hartikainen
one of Teubert/Peckham/Potter

Would rather not trade Harti, but i think this would complete our top 6. In all honesty I believe Gagner is fully capable of being our long term #2, but almost every fan I spoke with disagrees.Columbus probably doesn't want to trade a player they recently acquired but lets see how this goes !

Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Harti/Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov

vs.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hemsky-Anisimov-Yakupov

(I think we overpay, no homer)
The fact that this is the only time you take the BJ's needs into account and you are admiting they are doing something they wouldn't want to speaks volumes. CBJ has way better young Dmen then Edmonton and none of the ones you offer have any value anyway so lets just ignore that. Is Harti worth the downgrade from AA to gagner? I would say no, especially because Columbus is in the business of acquiring top end talent, not trading their better players for depth.

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Wouldnt do this deal just because Hartikainen is in it.

Dont want that guy traded.

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Both teams say no.

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Edmontons top 6 looks good all around, with 2 exceptions, A big centerman and size. That being said EDM would benefit greatly with a bigger centerman in Anisimov. Also another Russian to play with yakupov

Anisimov for

Gagner
Hartikainen
one of Teubert/Peckham/Potter

Would rather not trade Harti, but i think this would complete our top 6. In all honesty I believe Gagner is fully capable of being our long term #2, but almost every fan I spoke with disagrees.Columbus probably doesn't want to trade a player they recently acquired but lets see how this goes !

Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Harti/Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov

vs.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hemsky-Anisimov-Yakupov

(I think we overpay, no homer)
Anistmov has 46-62-108 pts in 244games is 24 years old
gagner has 77-143-220pts in 383games and is 23 years old
and the oilers are adding two players?

trading 2 2nd line players for one second line player?

Math does not add up

also Hartikainen has show signs of being one hell of a late round steal

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I don't think Columbus could say no to that offer. I don't see Anisimov as that much of an improvement over Gagner, if at all.

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trading 2 2nd line players for one second line player?
Two 2nd line players?

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Ya, Harti is not getting dealt. The kid is a beast and we have nothing like him in our system at all. Our top 9 desperately needs his physicality and secondary offense.

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Wouldnt do this deal just because Hartikainen is in it.

Dont want that guy traded.
I'm with you on that one! people will recognize soon enough.

Is Anisimov really an upgrade on Gagner?? ()

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If you're looking for a centerman with size I wouldn't look towards Anisimov.

I know it sound counter-intuitive, but size isn't just about how big you are. Anisimov is big, but he doesn't really play big.

That's not to say he's weak, or soft, but he just doesn't play a banging style of game. He's can play a technical game, he can play a finesse game, and he's good at it. But big isn't his style.

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Is Anisimov really an upgrade on Gagner?? ()
Yes. Quite obviously to anyone who knows how good Anisimov actually is.

That said, he's better suited to be a 3C than a 2C. He's not a physical player, but he plays a 3rd line style. Safe and cerebral.

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Yes. Quite obviously to anyone who knows how good Anisimov actually is.

That said, he's better suited to be a 3C than a 2C. He's not a physical player, but he plays a 3rd line style. Safe and cerebral.
I agree. His strength is in his defensive game. On a good team with the right coach he'll make an excellent 3C. For the marginal point decrease from Gagner, I think his defensive play is worth it.

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I agree. His strength is in his defensive game. On a good team with the right coach he'll make an excellent 3C. For the marginal point decrease from Gagner, I think his defensive play is worth it.
Gagner's a total tweener, Anisimov actually has a defined role. Which is why he a more valuable player.

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Notice how Anisimov becomes a 2nd line center as soon as he's traded away from the Rangers.

Before that, he was a 'tweener'.

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Notice how Anisimov becomes a 2nd line center as soon as he's traded away from the Rangers.

Before that, he was a 'tweener'.
He still is. But he can actually succeed in one of the roles he can play. Not to say he's a failure of a 2nd line player, but he's better suited on the third line. He's inconsistent offensively but his defensive game is pretty even from game to game.

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Notice how Anisimov becomes a 2nd line center as soon as he's traded away from the Rangers.

Before that, he was a 'tweener'.
I for one always though Anisimov was a solid if unspectacular #2C. That Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan line was a joy to watch.

Any Oilers fan using point totals to label Anisimov are completely unaware of the fact that AA was commonly forced to play on the Rangesr 4th line with scrubs, for no good reason. Kid's got all sorts of talent plus a solid defensive awareness.

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I really don't understand this proposal. Anisimov has not even played for CBJ yet, why would they trade him now?

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He still is. But he can actually succeed in one of the roles he can play. Not to say he's a failure of a 2nd line player, but he's better suited on the third line. He's inconsistent offensively but his defensive game is pretty even from game to game.
He was playing on the 1st line with Stepan and Gaborik and was doing well early on. Then he went on a crazy pointless streak like 17 games or something and was bounced around the lineup.

The year before, he was the team's #1 center and was scary good on the pack line.

I guess he's suited for the 3rd line as well. However, I think he should be put in a position to put up points because he is pretty skilled.

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Any Oilers fan using point totals to label Anisimov are completely unaware of the fact that AA was commonly forced to play on the Rangesr 4th line with scrubs, for no good reason. Kid's got all sorts of talent plus a solid defensive awareness.
Not entirely true. He was on the 4th line for like 15 games about halfway through the season because he had a painfully bad stretch of games where he went something like 17 or 18 games without a goal. He earned his 4th line demotion.

That said, he is still an excellent 3rd line center who still has room to develop more.

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Any Oilers fan using point totals to label Anisimov are completely unaware of the fact that AA was commonly forced to play on the Rangesr 4th line with scrubs, for no good reason. Kid's got all sorts of talent plus a solid defensive awareness.
Ya and so did Gagner...


No way the Oilers do this. It'd be nice to get AA, but not at such a ridiculous price

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Anisimov has not played a game in Columbus and he already wants out?

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I for one always though Anisimov was a solid if unspectacular #2C. That Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan line was a joy to watch.

Any Oilers fan using point totals to label Anisimov are completely unaware of the fact that AA was commonly forced to play on the Rangesr 4th line with scrubs, for no good reason. Kid's got all sorts of talent plus a solid defensive awareness.
He lacks hockey IQ and a compete level.

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I'd rather have Anisimov than Gagner at this point. Columbus already has an underachieving, fairly skilled one-way playmaking center in Derick Brassard. They dont need two.

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Wouldn't trade Gagner for Anisimov 1 for 1, so absolutely not to the deal.

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