Here is a timeline of the latest news out of the new CBA negotiations. Please feel free to post news, commentary or information from the media, rumors (please clearly indicate as such), or any other piece related to the new CBA. Mods and myself will attempt to update OP frequently with latest timeline.
NHLPA proposal includes: 3 year deal; player option for 4th reverting back to current CBA.
-Artificial slowing of salary growth. Ward: year 1 will increase by 2%,year 2 by 4% and in year 3 by 6%.If Revenue growth exceeds 10%,anything over 10% is subject to 57% that exists under present system. -Grange: -players get $1.89B for 3 yrs; owners keep bulk of rev growth from that period. Revenue sharing up; hard cap stays.
Some info via Brooks:
-Clubs could go up to $4M over cap and drop to $4M under floor by adding or trading cap space re PA proposal....
-NHLPA has also proposed extra draft picks for teams in financial trouble that could be used, traded or sold, Post has learned...
-PA also has proposed that NHL establish a limit on non-player spending by teams.
-NHLPA intends to submit own proposals re systemic issues (e.g, free agency, entry level, salary arb)...
-PA will propose eliminating team walkaways on salary arbitration, Post has learned...
NHL puts revenue-sharing proposal on table. Fehr encouraged, not necessarily by details. Fehr leaving for Europe to brief players.
Bettman says revenue-sharing proposal is similar but 'more inclusive.'
At CBA talks in Manhattan; told not to expect proposal from union today; still waiting for $$$ figures from some teams
This information contained in PA memo from Don Fehr to members, obtained by Post.
1. NHL proposal as applied to 2011-12 would have resulted in 24-percent reduction in player compensation;
2. Under NHL proposal, 2011-12 cap would have been 50.8M with floor of $38.8M
3. Under NHL proposal, player compensation would be at lowest since 2002-03.
1. reduce players hockey related revenues to 46% from 57 %.
2. 10 seasons in NHL before being UFA.
3. contracts limited to 5 years
4. no more salary arbitration.
5. entry-level contract 5 years instead of 3.
Fehr states he won't have any salary rollbacks on his watch
Meetings scheduled Tuesday (7/24), Thursday (7/26) and Friday (7/27).
Issues to be discussed may include Olympic participation, realignment and player safety.
Originally Posted by Fehr
“We’re having a lot of internal discussions, but when we get to the point where we are going to respond formally to the proposal they made by counter proposal or separate proposal, everybody will know. We're not there yet.”
Last edited by LadyStanley: 07-23-2012 at 10:28 AM.
Previewing Tuesday's meeting (and the other two days this week). Fehr talking about counter offer.
"We've asked for a bunch of additional financial information," Fehr said at an NHLPA charity golf tournament at Milton, Ontario. "They've indicated that the preparation is in progress and we'll need to review that before we come to any final conclusions."
As negotiations with the NHL resumed Tuesday, NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr indicated that the union was getting close to responding to the league’s initial proposal, which included a decreased share of hockey-related revenue, term limits on contracts and a 22 per cent salary rollback.
“I doubt that it will be weeks, plural,” said Fehr. “But could it be two? Yeah. It could be two. It could be less.”
The sides will continue talks in Toronto on Wednesday and Thursday and are scheduled to get right back at it next week with sessions in New York on Monday and Tuesday.
So, it's all out there - It will be interesting to see what else the NHL has proposed, what leaks out in the next day or so....can't imagine it will be anything more severe than what's been proposed so far.
The NHL Players' Association made a number of presentations to owners Thursday, including ones addressing pensions, training camp and ice conditions.
Mathieu Schneider, special assistant to NHLPA executive director Don Fehr, says the two sides were involved in collective discussion and also broke into smaller groups.
"Today was another good day," said the former NHL defenceman. "I think we had a lot of good, open discussion and it was certainly one of the days where we had a lot of player involvement and to me that's the most important thing."
Schneider adds that benefits have not been updated since the 1990s, while training camp issues include the schedule, player testing and the amount of pre-season games in which veterans would be expected to participate.
"There are a lot of these issues (where) we have the same common goal," Schneider said. "It's (about) coming to agreement and how we get to that goal and that's a lot of what happened today."
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says both sides want the same thing on a number of the issues discussed Thursday.
"On things relative to the game such as ice conditions, we all want the best ice possible," Bettman said. "These were really more discussion points than anything else at this stage."
The players say they are waiting for specific financial information from the owners before submitting a counter-proposal.
The players attending the session Thursday were Jeff Skinner (Carolina Hurricanes), B.J. Crombeen (Tampa Bay Lightning) and Jason Spezza (Ottawa Senators). The PA was also represented by Fehr, Schneider, General Counsel Don Zavello, Special Counsel Steve Fehr, and legal counsel.
The NHL was represented by Commissioner Bettman, Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly, Senior Executive V.P. of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell, Senior V.P. of Player Safety and Hockey Operations Brendan Shanahan, Hockey Operations Managers Rob Blake and Stephane Quintal, Minnesota owner Craig Leipold, Boston owner Jeremy Jacobs, Toronto President and GM Brian Burke, Carolina President and GM Jim Rutherford, and legal counsel.
NHLPA: 11 Players in total taking part in CBA negotiations in NYC today. Same group as yesterday with a couple of additions ... cont'd
NHLPA: ..... Craig Adams, Dan Cleary, BJ Crombeen, Mathieu Darche, Shawn Horcoff, Steve Montador, George Parros, Cory Schneider .... cont'd
NHLPA: .... Kevin Westgarth, Ryan Whitney, Keith Yandle. #nhlpa2012
NHLPA: Here's a pic of some of the Players meeting with NHLPA staff prior to the CBA meetings today. #nhlpa2012 http://t.co/2ArgmtY1
NHLPA: Several alma-maters in the @NHLPA group at CBA talks today #Princeton #Yale #McGill #MichiganState #Harvard #BU http://t.co/lEqodE4M
"They have asked for an exhaustive amount of information," Commissioner Bettman said. "We think they have plenty of financial information. They've had it on an ongoing basis as a union for years; but, having said that, we are doing our best to comply with all of their requests for information -- whether or not we think they are relevant, as quickly as possible.
"But, as you can understand, if we have produced 76,000 pages in a short period of time and we're gathering it from the 30 clubs and the League office, there is a lot of work to do in a short period of time."
Fehr said the PA has just begun to digest the information the NHL produced Monday.
In the negotiating session Tuesday, The NHL was represented by Commissioner Bettman, Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly, Senior V.P. of Player Safety and Hockey Operations Brendan Shanahan, Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs, Minnesota Wild owner Craig Leipold, Washington Capitals owner Ted Leonsis, Toronto Maple Leafs President and General Manager Brian Burke, Carolina Hurricanes President and General Manager Jim Rutherford, and legal counsel.
The NHLPA was represented by Fehr, Special Counsel Steve Fehr, General Counsel Don Zavello, Special Assistant to the Executive Director Mathieu Schneider, Director of Operations Alex Dagg, and 11 players: Craig Adams (Penguins), Dan Cleary (Red Wings), B.J. Crombeen (Lightning), Mathieu Darche (unrestricted free agent), Shawn Horcoff (Oilers), Steve Montador (Blackhawks), George Parros (Panthers), Cory Schneider (Canucks), Kevin Westgarth (Kings), Ryan Whitney (Oilers) and Keith Yandle (Coyotes).
As negotiations with the NHL resumed Tuesday, NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr indicated that the union was getting close to responding to the league's initial proposal, which included a decreased share of hockey-related revenue, term limits on contracts and a 22 per cent salary rollback.
"I doubt that it will be weeks plural," said Fehr. "But could it be two? Yeah. It could be two, it could be less."