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01-07-2013, 12:18 AM
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Hemsky will be on one of the top two lines. Guaranteed.
But if he isn't, aren't smyth and horcoff the perfect linemates for him? I actually really like what he might bring to an otherwise defensively responsible 3rd line.

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01-07-2013, 12:23 AM
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But if he isn't, aren't smyth and horcoff the perfect linemates for him? I actually really like what he might bring to an otherwise defensively responsible 3rd line.
Hemsky has wanted to be on a skilled line for years. I dont think he'll be happy with Smyth and Horc with all the other talent at the team's disposal.

I can see Yakupov get short changed for a bit.. IMO he'll start on the 3rd line but will see some time on the 4th line and even some on PB before solidifing a spot for himself on the 2nd line.

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01-07-2013, 12:24 AM
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But if he isn't, aren't smyth and horcoff the perfect linemates for him? I actually really like what he might bring to an otherwise defensively responsible 3rd line.
I think they would be great linemates for Hemsky if it was still 2006

I'd rather see Jones or Hartikainen on that line. Hemsky should be playing in a more offensive role.

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01-07-2013, 12:42 AM
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I think the Oilers will be just like OKC so far; no offensive depth and bad defense. Besides Schultz and Smid, all our defense has been sitting on their butts for 9 months. That's worrisome. This team is going to have a very hard time keeping the puck out of the net, and I'll tell you now theyre going to make Dubnyk look bad regardless of how he plays.
Did Dubnyk look bad last year?
How did our D last year compare to this year?

My opinion is Dubnyk did not look bad, and last year's D which basically had sutton/peckham/potter/barker instead of Schultz is arguably worse. Plus every other team had multiple players sitting on their butts this whole time.

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01-07-2013, 12:51 AM
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Hall - RNH - Eberle
Hemsky - Gagner - Yakupov
Smyth - Horcoff - Hartikainen
Eager - Belanger - Petrell
Hordichuk

Smid - Petry
N Schultz - J Schultz
Whitney - Peckham
Teubert - Potter

Dubnyk
Danis

Injured:
Sutton
Jones
Khabibulin


That's how I start the year. They need some physicality in the lineup to counter-balance the abundance of softness throughout the roster.


Teubert, Peckham and Hartikainen are all needed in there and Eager has to play with more piss and vinegar in his game as well.

No doubt more injuries will result in more re-shuffling before long but for now I think that lineup has the potential to be above average and a legit playoff threat during this truncated season.

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01-07-2013, 12:57 AM
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Do you guys think Krueger would put Yakupov on his off-swing?

I remember him getting interviewed on the radio and he went on to say Yakupov had one of the best one timers he's ever seen. It's going to be interesting to see if takes Hemsky off RW and sticks him on LW.

IMO, the lineup is twice as dangerous with Yakupov on his off-wing.

And how good does it feel to FINALLY start talking about the Oilers instead of lawyer junk? Pretty refreshing if you ask me.

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01-07-2013, 12:59 AM
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I find it hard to see Yak playing on the 2nd line on his off wing if Hemsky is also on that line...playing on his offwing. Those two with Gagner would be a big fat minus way too often.

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01-07-2013, 01:00 AM
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Kruger said he will try different combinations. He mentioned playing Hemsky with Gagner and that Yakupov play left wing.



Could be any of the above:
Yakupov-Gagner-Hemsky
Hall-Gagner-Hemsky
Yakupov-RNH-Hemsky
Smyth-Gagner-Hemsky

I would not mind seeing Gagner with Hartikainen and a skilled shooter--Yakupov or Eberle.

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01-07-2013, 01:15 AM
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No doubt we'll see the lines getting blended up early and often and various combos will be experimented with.

A new head coach will want to try to get the chemistry going early and although Krueger has been here for a while this is all his show now so he'll likely want to shake things up differently than when Renney was there.

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01-07-2013, 01:21 AM
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I wouldn't mind signing Commodore given Sutton's issues.
Given our options, I would be down with that.

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01-07-2013, 01:28 AM
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I'd take Vandermeer back at this point

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01-07-2013, 01:54 AM
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It really bugs me about Sutton, he was so great in his role. That one will hurt, Peckham is no Sutton.

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01-07-2013, 02:06 AM
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Sutton was one of my favorite oilers last season.

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01-07-2013, 02:26 AM
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Sutton was one of my favorite oilers last season.
I've defended Sutton a lot here as well... perfect bottom pairing dman... decent defensive skills and legitimately scares other teams with his ability to crush players. He'll definitely be missed.

Teubert and Peckham are the best bets to replace him but neither are as consistent.... not yet anyway.

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01-07-2013, 02:35 AM
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I've defended Sutton a lot here as well... perfect bottom pairing dman... decent defensive skills and legitimately scares other teams with his ability to crush players. He'll definitely be missed.

Teubert and Peckham are the best bets to replace him but neither are as consistent.... not yet anyway.
We are really going to miss that element on the ice, we need Sutton 10 years ago in a big way.

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I sort of wish Bigos was further developed, he'd be a good replacement for Sutton possibly. Can't be worse than the other options.

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01-07-2013, 02:58 AM
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Maybe give Plante a shot in Suttons role if Pecks and Teubert both suck.

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01-07-2013, 03:33 AM
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Hartikanen rnh eberle
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But if he isn't, aren't smyth and horcoff the perfect linemates for him? I actually really like what he might bring to an otherwise defensively responsible 3rd line.
No, Hemsky is like a sportscar. A sportscar that spends a lot of time in the shop, but a sportscar nonetheless. You don't use him to haul around your boat; that's not his function.

He needs to be on an offensive line, with offensive players. If you want him to play more of a 2 way game I can accept that argument, but when he's on the ice his primary function should be to take it to the other team offensively, not play on a checking line that's merely trying to kill the clock and look for the odd offensive break.

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01-07-2013, 05:06 AM
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Hall - RNH - Eberle
Hemsky - Gagner - Yakupov
Smyth - Horcoff - Hartikainen
Eager - Belanger - Petrell
Hordichuk

Smid - Petry
N Schultz - J Schultz
Whitney - Peckham
Teubert - Potter

Dubnyk
Danis

Injured:
Sutton
Jones
Khabibulin


That's how I start the year. They need some physicality in the lineup to counter-balance the abundance of softness throughout the roster.


Teubert, Peckham and Hartikainen are all needed in there and Eager has to play with more piss and vinegar in his game as well.

No doubt more injuries will result in more re-shuffling before long but for now I think that lineup has the potential to be above average and a legit playoff threat during this truncated season.

scratch belanger, he is too soft. put jones there, he can play center and is gritty. just what the team needs.

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01-07-2013, 05:19 AM
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scratch belanger, he is too soft. put jones there, he can play center and is gritty. just what the team needs.
Jones is injured for a few weeks (eye injury)

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Maybe give Plante a shot in Suttons role if Pecks and Teubert both suck.
Plante's barely been an AHLer at this point. I threw up in my mouth a little thinking of him on the Oilers.

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01-07-2013, 06:52 AM
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I agree... they should definitely take their chances in seeing what they have with Peckham or Teubert before they consider Plante.

I'm hoping Peckham rebounds into a fairly reliable, physical dman that he was shaping into a couple seasons ago. Same goes for Eager among the forwards. Those two can both provide a little bit of "crazy" and some physicality when the small fry on the roster get steamrolled. I KNOW Peckham can do that as that has been his role in the past but he got away from that last year.

Eager has the ability to play a much more gritty, sandpaper-like role as well but he's got to get his head on straight and not butt heads with the coach like he did last year.

There's plenty of skilled talent throughout the lineup... now the Oilers just need to get their character guys to actually play with grit and tenacity... instead of just going through the motions and being placeholders.

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I couldn't be bothered to watch any AHL games but that's a concern.

If Hall/Eberle/RNH can't produce apart from each-other then that lack of versatility is disappointing.
This is not true. Hall and Eberle were split up recently and they still scored.

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Smyth actually had a better power play face off winning percentage than Horcoff last season.

However, Horcoff took 227 power play faceoffs and Smyth took 46. I'm not sure Smyth would have done as well over that large of a sample size. I'm sure Horcoff's faceoff competition was tougher as well.
Nugent-Hopkins and Belanger also had better pp faceoff %-ages as well. And while sample size again comes into play, what I believe is true is that this is a completely irrelevent issue.

Horcoff took about 200 power play faceoffs last year and was about 50%. At 40% a player would win one less pp faceoff every 4 games. At worst that might cost you what 3 goals. This could easily be made up by adding a better player.

Horcoff should not be on the #1 pp for any reason.

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