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01-11-2013, 03:18 PM
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Oh, and officially official confirmation from AV - Barker has accepted his PTO invite.

Everyone is skating at UBC except for Kesler, but he is at the rink.
Also Vandermeer was turned down for a PTO. Looks like the Canucks management prefer Barker over him...WTF... :


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So is Corrado coming or not? Not on twitter, but Bob Mackenzie's twitter mentioned him.

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So is Corrado coming or not? Not on twitter, but Bob Mackenzie's twitter mentioned him.
Yes Kitchener Rangers reporter said he was.

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Also Vandermeer was turned down for a PTO. Looks like the Canucks management prefer Barker over him...WTF... :
Looks like the Vancouver Canucks might be...
*Puts shades on*
Barking up the wrong tree.


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Interesting.



I'm guessing Lack, Joslin, Sauve, Andersson, Sweatt, Archibald, and Rodin.
I believe Cannata is already confirmed, so he'll be there instead of Lack. Agreed with the rest, although Andersson is iffy. Would like to see Mallet get a little look as well, he's probably closer to playing NHL games just due to his skillset than most.

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01-11-2013, 04:05 PM
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Also Vandermeer was turned down for a PTO. Looks like the Canucks management prefer Barker over him...WTF... :
Vigneault said they are looking for a puck mover on Twitter. PITB said "then they're going to be really disappointed with Barker"

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Looks like the Vancouver Canucks might be...
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Barking up the wrong tree.



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@benkuzma Mason Raymond on rewarding AV's second-line faith: "It's the pressure I put on myself to play. It can't get any worse than last year."


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I understand that, and I know that Booth and Raymond are probably the two biggest lightning rods for criticism on the team at this point. I just think Booth is going to exceed expectations this year. I'm also really curious to see how Hansen's stint in Finland will impact his offensive game.

EDIT: I also feel a Schroeder/Booth pairing could be a positive thing. Kesler is a shoot-first guy, and so is Booth. Schroeder is more of a playmaker, so I think there's a solid chance that those two could develop some chemistry.

Raymond is a bit of a puck-hog/perimiter player, so I don't know how long he would last on that line.
My exact thoughts. The Canuck's system isn't the easiest and it's not like Booth had much (any) time to adjust to new line/team mates.

I'd like a play-making winger or center for the second line but I'm not sold on Schroeder. I also believe Higgins would play there before Lappy or Malholtra.

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Vigneault said they are looking for a puck mover on Twitter. PITB said "then they're going to be really disappointed with Barker"
Hopefully Barker won't be a good puck mover......for the other team.

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My exact thoughts. The Canuck's system isn't the easiest and it's not like Booth had much (any) time to adjust to new line/team mates.
Evidently 61 NHL games is enough for those in the peanut gallery.....

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01-11-2013, 05:02 PM
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@benkuzma Mason Raymond on rewarding AV's second-line faith: "It's the pressure I put on myself to play. It can't get any worse than last year."

Oh son of a...

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Oh son of a...
It's like he's dangling his unmentionables in fate's face and daring him to take a swing.

Guess we need a bad-luck-magnet, what with Salo being gone.

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Ugh...Raymond...worst.

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These problems are so much better then lockout bs

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Hopefully Barker won't be a good puck mover......for the other team.


Evidently 61 NHL games is enough for those in the peanut gallery.....

Those who think 61 games is enough time to learn a new system then gain chemistry with another player; don't play hockey.

In contrast, playing 2 seasons can do wonders.

Also not to mention, Booth played 19 games, scored 5 goals and 7 assists up to December 6 and then got injured. He scored drastically much more at home and I think that lends to the idea he needs to adjust to match-ups, system, teammates.


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01-11-2013, 05:13 PM
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These problems are so much better then lockout bs
Can we as fans lockout just Raymond from the 2nd line?

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@benkuzma Mason Raymond on rewarding AV's second-line faith: "It's the pressure I put on myself to play. It can't get any worse than last year."

I think it can, then again, he was terribad...

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I know we all love to hate Raymond but a line of Booth-Schroeder-Raymond is probably one of the fastest in the league if nothing else.
Speed and nothing more.

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I'm not sure what the big deal is here? Why is the mere mention of Raymond on the 2nd line such an abomination to people? Obviously if he doesn't play well enough to stick on the 2nd line, he won't be there very long. If he works out and proves he's capable it only helps balance our team out, or it possibly increases his value in a trade. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be at the very least TRIED out on the 2nd line...he did put up 25 goals and 53 points on the 2nd line previously. If he doesn't work out there, oh well, move on to another option.

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I'm not sure what the big deal is here? Why is the mere mention of Raymond on the 2nd line such an abomination to people? Obviously if he doesn't play well enough to stick on the 2nd line, he won't be there very long. If he works out and proves he's capable it only helps balance our team out, or it possibly increases his value in a trade. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be at the very least TRIED out on the 2nd line...he did put up 25 goals and 53 points on the 2nd line previously. If he doesn't work out there, oh well, move on to another option.
My thoughts exactly.

Last year was a right off, plain and simple. The year before Raymond actually had MORE ES points than his 53 point year, it's only his scoring on the PP that was down. Hmmm.. Why could that be? Is that the year that we decided to stack our 1st unit and essentially bench the 2nd unit PP? Yes, it is. If Raymond can contribute around 35-40 ES points again I'll be happy, he shouldn't be judged on his PP scoring considering no forwards get any PP time if they aren't named Sedin or Kesler.

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@benkuzma Mason Raymond on rewarding AV's second-line faith: "It's the pressure I put on myself to play. I can't get any worse than last year."

Fixed the typo for you

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I'm not sure what the big deal is here? Why is the mere mention of Raymond on the 2nd line such an abomination to people? Obviously if he doesn't play well enough to stick on the 2nd line, he won't be there very long. If he works out and proves he's capable it only helps balance our team out, or it possibly increases his value in a trade. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be at the very least TRIED out on the 2nd line...he did put up 25 goals and 53 points on the 2nd line previously. If he doesn't work out there, oh well, move on to another option.
Agreed, there's no reason to over react. The only problem with the potential line is that both Raymond and Booth is that they are both puck hogs who aren't great passers. The speed on that line might help to mitigate that a bit if they dump the puck in while skating at full seed rather than trying to use fancy passing plays to gain the zone. There's still a ton of moving parts though; the lines we start the season with are very rarely the lines we end with.

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@benkuzma Mason Raymond on rewarding AV's second-line faith: "It's the pressure I put on myself to play. It can't get any worse than last year."

How do we reverse jinx this before MayRay has a full on Final Destination experience?!?

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I think if there are enough people complaining about Raymond on the second line, AV will listen and keep him off it.















....and promote him to the first line with the Sedins.

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Man, after going through this thread, I'm rooting for Raymond so hard this year. Full summer/fall of training after, what to me, was an incredible comeback after a near career ending injury. He can be moved up and down the lineup with relative comfort and has some of the best wheels in the game. Hopefully he proves to all the haters ( there are apparently a ton of them ) that he is still a solid contributor.

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