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01-06-2013, 01:08 PM
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Your nations u-24 team

How would your nations u-24 team look? Players must be born 1989 or later. Swedens big problem is that the forward side looks weak, defense and goalies look great though.

Team Sweden

Gabriel Landeskog (92) - Marcus Johansson (90) - Jakob Silfverberg (90)
Gustav Nyquist (89) - Marcus Krüger (90) - Mikael Backlund (89)
David Ullström (89) - Calle Järnkrok (91) - Jesper Fasth (91)
Magnus Pääjärvi (91) - Johan Larsson (92) - Jacob Josefson (91)
Oscar Lindberg (91)

Adam Larsson (92) - Erik Karlsson (91)
Oliver Ekman Larsson (91) - Victor Hedman (90)
David Rundblad (90) - Tim Erixon (91)
Jonas Brodin (93)

Robin Lehner (91)
Jakob Markström (90)

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01-06-2013, 02:28 PM
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Team Canada

Jamie Benn(89) - Steven Stamkos(90) - Jordan Eberle(90)
Taylor Hall(91) - John Tavares(90) - Tyler Seguin(92)
Matt Duchene(91) - Logan Couture(89) -Jeff Skinner(92)
Evander Kane(91) -Ryan O'Reilly(91) - Sean Couturier(92)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins(93)

Alex Pietrangelo(90) - Drew Doughty(89)
PK Subban(89) - Tyler Myers(90)
Travis Hamonic(90) - Michael Del Zotto(90)
Jared Cowen(91)

Braden Holtby(89)
Matt Hackett(90)

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01-06-2013, 02:33 PM
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Team Canada

Jamie Benn(89) - Steven Stamkos(90) - Jordan Eberle(90)
Taylor Hall(91) - John Tavares(90) - Tyler Seguin(92)
Matt Duchene(91) - Logan Couture(89) -Jeff Skinner(92)
Evander Kane(91) -Ryan O'Reilly(91) - Sean Couturier(92)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins(93)

Alex Pietrangelo(90) - Drew Doughty(89)
PK Subban(89) - Tyler Myers(90)
Travis Hamonic(90) - Michael Del Zotto(90)
Jared Cowen(91)

Braden Holtby(89)
Matt Hackett(90)
Quite cleary a better team on paper than the Swedish one, thanks to the superior forwards.

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01-06-2013, 02:41 PM
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Team Canada

Jamie Benn(89) - Steven Stamkos(90) - Jordan Eberle(90)
Taylor Hall(91) - John Tavares(90) - Tyler Seguin(92)
Matt Duchene(91) - Logan Couture(89) -Jeff Skinner(92)
Evander Kane(91) -Ryan O'Reilly(91) - Sean Couturier(92)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins(93)

Alex Pietrangelo(90) - Drew Doughty(89)
PK Subban(89) - Tyler Myers(90)
Travis Hamonic(90) - Michael Del Zotto(90)
Jared Cowen(91)

Braden Holtby(89)
Matt Hackett(90)

Looks good, only change I would make is Justin Schultz for Cowen.

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01-06-2013, 02:45 PM
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Skinner - Tavares - Stamkos
Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Benn - Couture - Seguin
Kane - O'Reilly - Duchene
Ennis - Turris

Doughty - Pietrangelo
Subban - Myers
Del Zotto - Hamonic
Cowen

Holtby
Hackett

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01-06-2013, 02:49 PM
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Started making a team USA list. Got depressed about the complete lack of quality forwards available. The defense was solid, though.

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01-06-2013, 04:28 PM
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Someone can take this list and run with it and do the USA. Too hard to find talented forwards for a U24 team.

Forwards
C. Stepan (90)
LW/RW. Kreider (91)
LW/RW. Zucker (92)
LW/C. Wilson (89)
LW. van Riemsdyk (89)
RW. J. Hayes (89)
RW. Palmieri (89)
F. C. Smith (89)

Defense
Carlson (90)
Gardiner (90)
Fowler (91)
Shattenkirk (89)
McDonagh (89)
Bogosian (90)
Leddy (91)

Goaltenders
Campbell (92)
McCollum (89)

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01-06-2013, 05:38 PM
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Looks good, only change I would make is Justin Schultz for Cowen.
I would like to see Schultz perform in the NHL first. But between Cowen, Schultz and Gudbrason it was close.

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01-06-2013, 06:04 PM
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van Riemsdy----Stepan----Smith

Galchenyuk------Wilson------Kreider

Saad ---------Bjugstad--------Miller

N. Palmieri--------Nelson-------K. Palmieri

K. Hayes------Schroeder -----Coyle





McDonaugh------Shattenkirk

Fowler--------Faulk

Gardiner-------Carlson

Leddy---------Bogosian


Gibson
Campbell









In conclusion.



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van Riemsdy----Stepan----Smith

Galchenyuk------Wilson------Kreider

Saad ---------Bjugstad--------Miller

N. Palmieri--------Nelson-------K. Palmieri

K. Hayes------Schroeder -----Coyle





McDonaugh------Shattenkirk

Fowler--------Faulk

Gardiner-------Carlson

Leddy---------Bogosian


Gibson
Campbell









In conclusion.


Pretty good D. For the offense I would try:

JVR - Stepan - Kreider
Galchenyuk - Wilson - N.Palmieri
Saad - Schroeder - Smith
N. Palmieri - Bjugstad - Miller
Hayes

Balanced lines at least.

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Team Germany

Forwards:
Laurin Braun (91)
Martin Buchwieser (89)
Yasin Ehliz (92)
Jerome Flaake (90)
Martin Hinterstocker (89)
Tom Kühnhackl (92)
Marcel Noebels (92)
Alexander Oblinger (89)
Mathias Plachta (91)
Patrick Pohl (90)
Daniel Weiß (90)
David Wolf (89)
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Alternatives:
Leon Draisaitl (95)
Marc El-Sayed (91)
Mirko Höfflin (92)
Tobias Rieder (93)


Defense:
Konrad Abeltshauser (92)
Sinan Akdag (89)
Dominik Bielke (90)
Bernhard Ebner (90)
Marco Nowak (90)
Dennis Reul (89)
Tim Schüle (90)
Armin Wurm (89)
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Alternatives:
Dominik Bittner (92)
Björn Krupp (91)


Goalies:
Philip Grubauer (91)
Niklas Treutle (91)

Alternatives:
Felix Brückmann (90)
Mathias Niederberger (92)

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Already there's talk that the NHL will commit to the Olympics and resurrect the World Cup. I love international hockey but I'm highly skeptical that there will be a high amount of interest in the World Cup if the NHL is going to the Olympics. A best on best every two years is overkill and I think you would see a lot of top guys skipping the World Cup.

What I would like to see is the World Cup being a 25 and under event. This would allow the Olympics to remain the marquee event and still have a solid international event in the World Cup with the top young guys in the NHL who would be highly motivated to do well to earn a spot on the Olympic team.

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01-06-2013, 06:21 PM
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van Riemsdy----Stepan----Smith

Galchenyuk------Wilson------Kreider

Saad ---------Bjugstad--------Miller

N. Palmieri--------Nelson-------K. Palmieri

K. Hayes------Schroeder -----Coyle





McDonaugh------Shattenkirk

Fowler--------Faulk

Gardiner-------Carlson

Leddy---------Bogosian


Gibson
Campbell









In conclusion.


You could have said the same thing about the US world junior team this year if you looked at it on paper before the tournament especially in comparison to Canada's stacked team. Look how that turned out.

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van Riemsdy----Stepan----Smith

Galchenyuk------Wilson------Kreider

Saad ---------Bjugstad--------Miller

N. Palmieri--------Nelson-------K. Palmieri

K. Hayes------Schroeder -----Coyle





McDonaugh------Shattenkirk

Fowler--------Faulk

Gardiner-------Carlson

Leddy---------Bogosian


Gibson
Campbell









In conclusion.


Seems to be the trend with USA lately. Forwards lack depth severely, but the D is sick.

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Already there's talk that the NHL will commit to the Olympics and resurrect the World Cup. I love international hockey but I'm highly skeptical that there will be a high amount of interest in the World Cup if the NHL is going to the Olympics. A best on best every two years is overkill and I think you would see a lot of top guys skipping the World Cup.

What I would like to see is the World Cup being a 25 and under event. This would allow the Olympics to remain the marquee event and still have a solid international event in the World Cup with the top young guys in the NHL who would be highly motivated to do well to earn a spot on the Olympic team.
disagree wish we could see it every year

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I try Slovakia.

G
Jaroslav Janus 1989
Zdenko Kotvan 1989
(Adam Trencan 1990)
D
Marek Daloga 1989
Martin Stajnoch 1990
Peter Hrasko 1991
Martin Marincin 1992
Adam Janosik 1992
Martin Gernat 1993
Peter Ceresnak 1993
(Matus Rais 1990, Juraj Valach 1989, Jan Brejcak 1989)
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Milan Kytnar 1989
Radoslav Tybor 1989
Libor Hudacek 1990
Tomas Tatar 1990
Marek Viedensky 1990
Juraj Majdan 1991
Andrej Stastny 1991
Richard Panik 1991
Marek Hrivik 1991
Dalibor Bortnak 1991
Tomas Jurco 1992
Marek Tvrdon 1993
Marko Dano 1994
(Michael Vandas 1991, Martin Bakos 1990, Andrej Kudrna 1991, Matus Chovan 1992, Radoslav Illo 1990)


Janus (Kotvan)

Stajnoch - Hrasko
Daloga - Janosik
Marincin - Gernat
Ceresnak

Tatar - Viedensky - Panik
Hudacek - Stastny - Hrivik
Tvrdon - Bortnak - Jurco
Majdan - Kytnar - Tybor
Dano

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Finland too bad to be even worth listing.

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Seems to be the trend with USA lately. Forwards lack depth severely, but the D is sick.
I wouldn't say the forwards severely lack depth. Guys like Saad, Coyle and Bjugstad are all very promising players. Not established NHLers but they're good.

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Pretty good D. For the offense I would try:

JVR - Stepan - Kreider
Galchenyuk - Wilson - N.Palmieri
Saad - Schroeder - Smith
N. Palmieri - Bjugstad - Miller
Hayes

Balanced lines at least.
I assume the second line is Kyle Palmieri. If you want to role four lines I suppose this is correct. I just sort of listed players in their wing position by depth. Didn't really think of line combinations.

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Already there's talk that the NHL will commit to the Olympics and resurrect the World Cup. I love international hockey but I'm highly skeptical that there will be a high amount of interest in the World Cup if the NHL is going to the Olympics. A best on best every two years is overkill and I think you would see a lot of top guys skipping the World Cup.

What I would like to see is the World Cup being a 25 and under event. This would allow the Olympics to remain the marquee event and still have a solid international event in the World Cup with the top young guys in the NHL who would be highly motivated to do well to earn a spot on the Olympic team.
The players will have a financial interest in the World Cup succeeding if it ever comes back.

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I wouldn't say the forwards severely lack depth. Guys like Saad, Coyle and Bjugstad are all very promising players. Not established NHLers but they're good.
We had a pretty rough spell in 2008-2009 for forwards, that's the main reason for what looks like a weak team. You add a year to the age limit and Patrick Kane, Max Pacioretty, Peter Mueller, Kyle Okposo and Blake Geoffrion. Suddenly the team no longer looks terrible.

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You could have said the same thing about the US world junior team this year if you looked at it on paper before the tournament especially in comparison to Canada's stacked team. Look how that turned out.
The US had a solid forward group. Gaudreau is scoring almost two points a game in the NCAA, Galchenyuk is around two points per game in the CHL, Riley Barber is over a point per game at Miami, JT Miller was a point per game in the OHL before going to the AHL and scoring .5 per game as a young rookie. I would not have said the US were terrible in the forward department going in to the tournament. The team was still built on defense and goaltending, but the forwards were not bad.

The US forwards on this imaginary U24 team would be fairly bad compared to Canada's group.

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I wouldn't say the forwards severely lack depth. Guys like Saad, Coyle and Bjugstad are all very promising players. Not established NHLers but they're good.
It's not that they aren't promising and highly talented players, it's just that they pale in comparison to Canada (and arguably Sweden as well). As Dryden said "it's one thing to be young and promising and another thing to be good."

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For Switzerland, sth like that:

(based on actual strengh, not on potential)


G: B. Conz (91)
R. Mayer (89)
L. Meili (92)

D: Josi (90) - Sbisa (90)
Geering (90) - Marti (93)
Löffel (91) - Kukan (93)
Trutmann (92) - Stoop (90)

F: Niederreiter (92) - Cunti (89) - Hollenstein (89)
Bärtschi (92) - Richard (93)- Vermin (92)
Hofmann (92) - Walser (92)- Pestoni (91)
D. Wieser (89)- Schäppi (91)- Moser (89)

Guys just missing the cut:

G: Ciacchio (89)
Zurkirchen (90)
Wolf (92)

D: Blaser (89)
Huguenin (91)
Schlumpf (91)
Guerra (93)
Frick (94)
Müller (95)
Baltisperger (95)

F: Sciaroni (89)
Suri (89)
Berger Bros (89, 90)
Bertschy (94)
Andrighetto (93)
Bertaggia (93)
Martschini (93)
Simion (94)
Herzog (94)
Lammer (92)
Haas (92)
Zangger (94)
Froideveaux (89)

Goalkeeping is mediocre based on talent as well as on depth.

D is on a historical high for swiss hockey IMO with skill, size and depth being on a fine level.

F overall is very good as well if we compare to other times. Some top-end talent... good overall, and especially Center-depth (sth Switzerland is missing normaly). A minus is, that quite a few of the top skilled players are sizewise somewhere between very small and tiny.

Overall pretty bright perspectives IMO.

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Hopefully a few Americans play their way into being solid locks for that list. Good thing our forwards 24-28 are very good (Backes, Brown, Callahan, Kane, Kesler, Kessel, Parise, Pavelski, Ryan, Stastny all were on the Silver Medal Olympics team). Otherwise we'd be in trouble, but we gotta start pumping out the next generation after those guys get old.

Very good on D though.

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