HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > Edmonton Oilers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

The Case For Trading Nail Yakupov (THW)

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-10-2013, 08:59 AM
  #1
chrisralph007
HFB Partner
 
chrisralph007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 2,450
vCash: 500
The Case For Trading Nail Yakupov (THW)

Top of the morning,

The Case For Trading Nail Yakupov
Link: http://thehockeywriters.com/the-case...-nail-yakupov/

Why the Edmonton Oilers should indeed trade Yakupov before he even suits up for the club. The time is now to help in the evolution of the Oil.

Some arguments for holding on to him presented as well. Finally, 5 potential trade dance partners looked at, with the Capitals one more for entertainment purposes.

Read full article here.

chrisralph007 is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:03 AM
  #2
Worraps
McWonderful McSummer
 
Worraps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,040
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisralph007 View Post
Top of the morning,

The Case For Trading Nail Yakupov
Link: http://thehockeywriters.com/the-case...-nail-yakupov/

Why the Edmonton Oilers should indeed trade Yakupov before he even suits up for the club. The time is now to help in the evolution of the Oil.

Some arguments for holding on to him presented as well. Finally, 5 potential trade dance partners looked at, with the Capitals one more for entertainment purposes.

Read full article here.
The case for trading Nail Yakupov: Buy High. Sell Low. The Oilers should do this because THW think they got too many first overall picks.

What a poorly thought out article.

Worraps is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:08 AM
  #3
Auguste McEscoffier
Registered User
 
Auguste McEscoffier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Country: Uzbekistan
Posts: 5,758
vCash: 500

Auguste McEscoffier is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:09 AM
  #4
Al Cappuccino
Craig's on it
 
Al Cappuccino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,541
vCash: 500
I'm still convinced that he had a bad showing at the WJC because of the system the Russians ran

Al Cappuccino is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:10 AM
  #5
Johnny McBravo
Hello Connor
 
Johnny McBravo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,643
vCash: 500
I love how everyone is basing Yakupov's skill set off the WJC. Not fair to Yak, and I agree with what Stauffer has to say on that subject.

If we trade Yakupov we will fill a hole by creating another hole. There isn't a good reason why we should trade him, if we do it will bite us in the ass some day. If the Oilers wanted to trade him they would have traded the pick before we the draft.

Johnny McBravo is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:10 AM
  #6
Oscar Acosta
Registered User
 
Oscar Acosta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,057
vCash: 1083
Terrible idea, and all those trade suggestions are brutal.

Oscar Acosta is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:12 AM
  #7
Al Cappuccino
Craig's on it
 
Al Cappuccino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,541
vCash: 500
yeah, sorry, the agrument for trading Yak is pretty weak, he may be a primadona and he's not comparable to Bure? He's still a consensus #1 overall pick and you generally don't trade those

Al Cappuccino is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:21 AM
  #8
oilersfan11
Registered User
 
oilersfan11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 12,539
vCash: 50
Nail Yakupov isn't going anywhere;Nail Yakupov is an Oiler until he officially retires!

oilersfan11 is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:22 AM
  #9
The Perfect Human*
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,953
vCash: 500
I don't think his stock is as high as it's going to be for us to consider trading him yet.

I remember a while back, when Evgeni Malkin was the best prospect in the world, and it was suddenly a "fair deal" on the Trade Board for the Pens to send "unproven" Letang and Malkin to the Oilers for Pronger. 1-2 years later that trade would have been a definite no-go.

Regardless of his 1st overall pedigree, regardless of his impressive WJHC showings, NHL GM's aren't going to pony up the assets to acquire him until they see what he can do on NHL ice.

Even if he falters a bit, I still see the kid scoring at least at a 50-60 point clip in a top-6 role at some point in the next 1-2 years. I think at that point his stock will be high enough to garner the maximal return.

The Perfect Human* is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:24 AM
  #10
McBooya42
Have a McDavid day!
 
McBooya42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,333
vCash: 50


Really??

That's some serious butt hurt still going on in TO. Did anyone else notice that the first team on the list of "potential trade partners" is Toronto??

Give me a break with this crap... Not to mention this thread being started by someone from Calgary...

Quote:
About chrisralph007
Favorite Teams
Calgary Flames, Chicago Blackhawks, Dallas Cowboys
Location
Calgary, Canada
Country
Undisclosed
We can sense your fear....goooooooooood.

McBooya42 is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:25 AM
  #11
The Perfect Human*
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,953
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Booya42 View Post


Really??

That's some serious butt hurt still going on in TO. Did anyone else notice that the first team on the list of "potential trade partners" is Toronto??

Give me a break with this crap... Not to mention this thread being started by someone from Calgary...
My favorite part was them being hesitant to part with Gardiner for him.

The Perfect Human* is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:31 AM
  #12
McCupofOil
McJesus Has Risen!!!
 
McCupofOil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 5-14-6-1
Country: United States
Posts: 18,150
vCash: 500
There is no case for trading Yakupov. Just pure silliness.

First of all, his value is at an all time low since i assume that he won't completely bust and thus, will elevate his value over time.
Secondly, the Oilers lacked secondary scoring last season, so we're going to trade that potential away before even seeing what he can do?
Thirdly, he's a supreme talent and has the potential to be an elite goal scorer in the league.
I've heard a lot of crazy things on HF but the idea of trading Yakupov before he plays an NHL game takes the cake.
With all due respect to the OP, this is one of the most poorly written articles that i've seen in a long time, attacking Yakupov's character as well. Nice.


Last edited by McCupofOil: 01-10-2013 at 09:39 AM.
McCupofOil is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:33 AM
  #13
Oscar Acosta
Registered User
 
Oscar Acosta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,057
vCash: 1083
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemsky_83 View Post
My favorite part was them being hesitant to part with Gardiner for him.
Yeah, I laughed at that.


Oscar Acosta is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:34 AM
  #14
misfit
5-14-6-1
 
misfit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: just north of...ever
Posts: 16,127
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Auguste Escoffier View Post
My thoughts exactly.

__________________
If you are offended by this post, it's probably because you're ugly.
misfit is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:37 AM
  #15
402
#ualberta
 
402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Edmonton
Country: Egypt
Posts: 2,855
vCash: 500
No I don't want to trade Yakupov not now anyway.
I knew this wouldn't go over well as soon as I read the title
Yakupov is in a position right now where he has so much potential no one knows how he will be playing a couple season. What if in a couple seasons yakupov is getting 40 goals

402 is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:42 AM
  #16
Insta
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Insta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,853
vCash: 500
So his trade value is at an all-time high after you watched him look "lost" for a good part of the junior tourney?

Insta is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:44 AM
  #17
Tad McMikowsky
Retired
 
Tad McMikowsky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,435
vCash: 500
Terrible article is terrible.

Clearly this was written for views. Nothing more nothing less.

Tad McMikowsky is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:48 AM
  #18
Fourier
Registered User
 
Fourier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Waterloo Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,398
vCash: 500
I read the artricle and I am sorry but I did not see any real case being made for a trade. In fact, it was not even close. My summary of what is there:

Case For a Trade: He is a supreme talent who might not be happy playing with other talented players.

Case Against: He has is a supreme talent who seems to want desperately to win.

One of these looks like someone reaching for an argument to support their agenda. The other looks like a reason I can buy into.

By the way, in the past he has been described as an excellent team player. So while it is absolutely possible that he may no fit in, right now there is no reason to expect that.

Fourier is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 09:56 AM
  #19
Dorian2
Positional Bias.
 
Dorian2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,199
vCash: 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Prez View Post
yeah, sorry, the agrument for trading Yak is pretty weak, he may be a primadona and he's not comparable to Bure? He's still a consensus #1 overall pick and you generally don't trade those
Not being comparable to Bure is a pretty general statement which can be taken, or spun, a couple of different ways.

Does he mean skill wise?
Personality?
Size?
Experience?
Which part of Russia he is from?
Demeanor?
Play making ability?
Shot?
Skating?
Hockey IQ?

What the hell was the context of that quote? Nice try on spinning yarn there.

And I'd really like to know where Cam Cole gets this "Primadonna" attitude from. From everything I've seen and heard from Yakupov himself, his teammates, and coaches, he is a team first player who wants to succeed. I do not get the sense that he is a Primadonna in any way.

Cole is a hack writing from Vancouver.

Take it for what it is.



Furthermore, his "poor play" during the WJC's, is likely attributed to the Russian coach and systems, as many have stated. Russia's entire team looked disjointed and unsure of what the hell they were doing. Even simple line changes and which, if any, centerman was to be used was messed up by the Russian coach. He didn't know WTF he was doing.

/end mini rant.


Last edited by Dorian2: 01-10-2013 at 10:03 AM.
Dorian2 is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 10:06 AM
  #20
Mc5RingsAndABeer
5-14-6-1
 
Mc5RingsAndABeer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 17,706
vCash: 97
Yakupov's value being at a perceived all-time high isn't a reason to take such drastic action by trading a guy you just drafted before he's played a single game.

Mc5RingsAndABeer is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 10:06 AM
  #21
AUAIOMRN
Registered User
 
AUAIOMRN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,835
vCash: 500
Not very convicing. The article literally gives two reasons for trading him: his personality might not mesh with the other young guns and his value might be at an all time high.

Of course there's no real reason to think either of those are true... but hey, they might be!

AUAIOMRN is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 10:07 AM
  #22
Asher
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,578
vCash: 500
Sad article. Just sad.

Asher is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 10:08 AM
  #23
CornKicker
Tied with Lander G's
 
CornKicker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,446
vCash: 50
and sometimes the media just likes to go fullretard

CornKicker is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 10:16 AM
  #24
The Bored Man
5-14-6-1
 
The Bored Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,142
vCash: 500
Alternatively titled as "The Case for Not Reading THW."

The Bored Man is offline  
Old
01-10-2013, 10:20 AM
  #25
Oscar Acosta
Registered User
 
Oscar Acosta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,057
vCash: 1083
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bored Man View Post
Alternatively titled as "The Case for Not Reading THW."


True enough.

Oscar Acosta is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2016 All Rights Reserved.