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01-09-2013, 03:07 PM
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Mike Green to Minnesota

Caps get

Setoguchi
Clutterbuck
Scandella
2nd
Phillips

Wild gets
Green
Wolski

Caps get a better option than Wolski for the 1RW spot, Clutterbuck fits in on the third line, and Minnesota gets a stud PMer who could explode with Suter as well as a guy who doesn't have much value right now but might return to 40 point form.

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01-09-2013, 03:13 PM
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No from the Wild. "eh" on Green. Really don't like Wolski.

Scandella is going to be stud. Setoguchi will be good playing with Granlund. Phillips needs some AHL seasoning.

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01-09-2013, 03:15 PM
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I think Minnesota gives up too much depth for Green. Plus, Scandella has a pretty bright future, which might be a mistake to trade him this early in his career.

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01-09-2013, 03:22 PM
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Not sure I like the idea trading 3 players, a good prospect and a high pick for somebody who has played 81 games over the past 2 years, and only has 31 points in those games (regardless of his past offensive performances).

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01-09-2013, 03:28 PM
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Washington doesn't need more warm bodies. There's already going to be enough trouble for them to fit players on their active roster, especially if Poti is healthy. Trim down the trade an increase the quality rather than quantity going to Washington.

Also, nobody thinks Wolski is going to be playing 1RW.

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01-09-2013, 03:29 PM
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Maybe make the pick conditional on say 60+ out of 82 games played and take out Scandella?

And there was a Caps thread in NHL talk and Wolski was discussed as an option for 1RW. Title was How bout them Caps or something like that.

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Too many moving parts and really, not much room to breathe this season for the Wild cap wise.

In theory, Green would be ideal on the Wild. Just doesn't seem all that feasible to make it happen given what the Caps would want/need.

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01-09-2013, 03:34 PM
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With Orlov out and Wideman gone, now is not the time for the Caps to trade Green. If Orlov heals quickly and proves that he has stepped up his level of play from last season, maybe you can approach this again. But trading Green before that point would leave the Caps in an awfully thin down the right side of the defense.

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01-09-2013, 04:23 PM
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It seems like to much for Minnesota to give up. I say you should take Josh Geoges for Coyle to solidify the blueline. ( i know - keep dreamin )

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Don't really need Phillips or the pick. Would want at least a mid pairing D coming back.

I'd do Seto, Clutterbuck, Gilbert for Green and futures like Galiev or 2nd rounders. Maybe another depth D from the wild like Scandella, Stoner or Kampfer. Seto and Clutterbuck could be enough to give us unstoppable depth.

Ovechkin Backstrom Setoguchi
Johansson Ribeiro Brouwer
Chimera Laich Clutterbuck
Hendricks Beagle Ward.

1st line is great, 2nd line average but could be effective with heavy ozone starts, 3rd and 4th lines each look capable of playoff dominance not unlike Kings and Devils bottom 6 from last year. Defense becomes a question mark but I think Orlov can step up to a Carlson lite level this year.

Suter-Green would probably be a top 3 pairing in the league. Can't think of one better off the top of my head.


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Don't really need Phillips or the pick. Would want at least a mid pairing D coming back.

I'd do Seto, Clutterbuck, Gilbert for Green and futures like Galiev or 2nd rounders. Maybe another depth D from the wild like Scandella, Stoner or Kampfer. Seto and Clutterbuck could be enough to give us unstoppable depth.

Ovechkin Backstrom Brouwer
Johansson Ribeiro Setoguchi
Chimera Laich Clutterbuck
Hendricks Beagle Ward.

1st line is great, 2nd line average, 3rd and 4th lines each look capable of playoff dominance. Defense becomes a question mark but I think Orlov can step up to a Carlson lite level this year.

Suter-Green would probably be a top 3 pairing in the league.
I've said this before, but I rather have Gilbert alone over Green. Green is more talented, but I think Gilbert fits better on the Wild and he's a lot less expensive.

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I've said this before, but I rather have Gilbert alone over Green. Green is more talented, but I think Gilbert fits better on the Wild and he's a lot less expensive.
4 million is a lot less expensive than 6 million?

I mean, it's fine to think that but that's like saying you'd rather have Setoguchi than Parise (if their salaries were closer). Not sure how you can say Gilbert "fits better" since you've never seen Green on the Wild. If it's because of Green's injury history, you can argue that, but none of his injuries seem chronic. If it's because you think Gilbert is better defensively, well, that's just plain wrong.

Green put up PPG seasons on presidents trophy caliber teams while anchoring a top pairing and playing top PP, PK and ES minutes with Jeff Schultz (like Nick Schultz but barely NHL caliber). I'd be scared to see what he could do with Suter.

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01-09-2013, 05:01 PM
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Didn't Jeff Schultz win the Plus Minus Award and currently holds the record for longest ice time without being scored upon?

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If it's because of Green's injury history, you can argue that, but none of his injuries seem chronic.
Hasn't Green had multiple concussions?

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What about
Seto
Clutterbuck
1st
Scandella
for
Green
Galiev
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Hasn't Green had multiple concussions?
I'm not the expert or historian, especially where Mystlyfe is concerned, but I remember it better described as re-aggravated. In my opinion he took a dirty shot a little before he was ready to, and it put him back out. Seems to me like there wasn't really enough time elapsed or reason to call it a new concussion.

If you meant beyond last season, I don't remember any concussions, just that ugly hit he took that separated his shoulder or whatever.

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I haven't been impressed with Green for a while, so I'm not sure I would want him on the Wild; especially for this overpayment.

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If the Caps have too many defensemen, they'll dump someone from their #8 -#10 slots, not someone from their top three. Why would they trade Green?

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Didn't Jeff Schultz win the Plus Minus Award and currently holds the record for longest ice time without being scored upon?
Yes. Now consider that he's barely a bottom caliber NHL defenseman who can't skate, hit, and has no offense. Then you have a rough estimate of how underrated Green is.

If you want Schultz too I'm sure we could work something out.

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Hasn't Green had multiple concussions?
Yeah he took a shot to the head before he was fully recovered from a concussion but seems to have recovered completely and has been for a long time. I don't think he's under any more risk for it than Brent Burns.

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What about
Seto
Clutterbuck
1st
Scandella
for
Green
Galiev
2nd
Can we make the 1st a 2014 pick and switch the 2nd out with a 3rd?

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this does nothing for washington. unless orlov steps up big time and can put of 40+ points we have no reason to move green

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Yes. Now consider that he's barely a bottom caliber NHL defenseman who can't skate, hit, and has no offense. Then you have a rough estimate of how underrated Green is.

If you want Schultz too I'm sure we could work something out.
Consider the whole picture:

Green's 2008-10 season with 73 (2008-09) and 76 (2009-10) points respectively.

Boudreau's offensive coaching style + Ovechkin (110/109 pts) + Backstrom (88/101 pts) + Semin (79/84 pts)

How could Green not succeed?

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Consider the whole picture:

Green's 2008-10 season with 73 (2008-09) and 76 (2009-10) points respectively.

Boudreau's offensive coaching style + Ovechkin (110/109 pts) + Backstrom (88/101 pts) + Semin (79/84 pts)

How could Green not succeed?
Same way all other D on the caps had under 30 points?

He did this while playing substantial defensive minutes and having defensive anchors by the names of Shaone Morrisson and Jeff Schultz around his neck for most of it

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