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Luongo: Is the light getting brighter?

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01-09-2013, 11:36 AM
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Wowsers! Luongo is definitely headed to T.O if Nonnis takes over. And for a better price I'd wager too.
LOL

Im sure this all boiled down to Luongo. In fact i'm sure Luongo will impact every move by every team until the moment he's traded.

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Well, I guess Burke's blarney won't last any longer

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Nonis will take over and pay through the nose for Luongo. My guess is that ownership feels they NEED Luongo to make the playoffs and Burke didn't want to pony up. Would be hilarious if Gillis contributed to Burke being fired.

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Step 1) Express interest in trading for Roberto Luongo and his contract
Step 2) Get fired

Sounds about right to me.

I suppose it could also be the opposite ...

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Step 1) Express interest in trading for Roberto Luongo and his contract
Step 2) Get fired

Sounds about right to me.

I suppose it could also be the opposite ...
Nice try. You're just trying to get Tambellini fired too!

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Step 1) Express interest in trading for Roberto Luongo and his contract
Step 2) Get fired

Sounds about right to me.

I suppose it could also be the opposite ...
More like refuse to step up and get one of the worlds best goalies and get canned by ownership because the team hasn't been in the playoffs in a decade...

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01-09-2013, 11:41 AM
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My guess is that Burke refused to trade for Luongo, and ownership tried to force his hand.

Burke always demanded autonomy over the club, could have been butting heads.

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01-09-2013, 11:42 AM
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Let's for a moment make the bold assumption that this was because of Luongo, and how either Burke didn't want to make the deal and ownership does, or vice versa.

I think the first thing to look at is, who was on which side... and the way I see it, there's no way this Luongo frenzy would've started unless there was actually some substance behind the guy running the Leafs (Burke) wanting to make the move... which means that if this was because of a difference of opinions over Luongo, I suspect it's ownership who doesn't want that deal made.

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01-09-2013, 11:42 AM
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Wow...I have a strong feeling Nonis would be willing to give more than Burke for Luongo.

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01-09-2013, 11:43 AM
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Man if MG is the reason got let go of again I would be hella pissed if I was Burke...I'm approaching this with extreme optimism.

Just having Nonis at the hound made the price a bit better.

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I'm hearing he told ownership that it would be easier to get Luongo in the new CBA.
I should clarify that it was maybe the final straw. Lots of reasons for this to no longer work out.

Kessel deal
No playoffs
Treatment of media
Luongo deal
Maybe just want to start clean - Too bad for them they did not get JD.

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Kypreos just said that although Burke is fired, his sources are still telling him that Luongo to Toronto is still a possibility. This move was made because there were too many "hands on the steering wheel" So we'll see what Nonis can do.

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Let's for a moment make the bold assumption that this was because of Luongo, and how either Burke didn't want to make the deal and ownership does, or vice versa.

I think the first thing to look at is, who was on which side... and the way I see it, there's no way this Luongo frenzy would've started unless there was actually some substance behind the guy running the Leafs (Burke) wanting to make the move... which means that if this was because of a difference of opinions over Luongo, I suspect it's ownership who doesn't want that deal made.
So you're saying that the owners don't want a team that would be in a better position to make more money and MAKE the playoffs?


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I should clarify that it was maybe the final straw. Lots of reasons for this to no longer work out.

Kessel deal
No playoffs
Treatment of media
Luongo deal
Maybe just want to start clean - Too bad for them they did not get JD.
Yes, but the timing suggests it is something recent. I'm guessing that it must be related to Loungo. One way or the other.
Either that or the ownership wanted to make Mike Komisarak the number one defenceman and Burke balked at it.

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Yes, but the timing suggests it is something recent. I'm guessing that it must be related to Loungo. One way or the other.
Either that or the owenrship wanted to make Mike Komisarak the number one defenceman and Burke balked at it.
Something recent is the new CBA.

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More proof that the season ticket holders are the bane of all Leaf fans.

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So you're saying that the owners don't want a team that would be in a better position to make more money and MAKE the playoffs?

I'm saying Burke was brought in here to build a long term winner.... if it's about Luongo, MLSE seems to feel that represents a shift from that.

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01-09-2013, 11:51 AM
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So you're saying that the owners don't want a team that would be in a better position to make more money and MAKE the playoffs?

In fairness, they could opt the rebuild philosophy and start shipping out short-term contracts like Lupul and Phaneuf for big returns. Considering how many teams might want to explode to the finish line, this may not be the worst decision ever.

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In fairness, they could opt the rebuild philosophy and start shipping out short-term contracts like Lupul and Phaneuf for big returns. Considering how many teams might want to explode to the finish line, this may not be the worst decision ever.
And rebuild again while not making the playoffs? I don't see how this is a good business model at all unless you enjoyed watching the waffles hit the ice again...

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I'm saying Burke was brought in here to build a long term winner.... if it's about Luongo, MLSE seems to feel that represents a shift from that.
How is that a shift from that? You do understand the rumblings are that Nonis is taking over and that he is the man who brought Luongo over to Vancouver?

Luongo is not a short-term investment....you're probably the only one who would think MLSE does not want Luongo.

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Maybe TO ownership didn't like a move he was going to make - Luongo?
Rather a move he WASN'T going to make. I don't agree with all things Burke but I'm afraid we'll pay through the nose for Luongo now. Canucks fans will get their wish

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And rebuild again while not making the playoffs? I don't see how this is a good business model at all unless you enjoyed watching the waffles hit the ice again...
But make them more consistently in a few years instead of skating into 7-8th. Who knows?

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How is that a shift from that? You do understand the rumblings are that Nonis is taking over and that he is the man who brought Luongo over to Vancouver?

Luongo is not a short-term investment....you're probably the only one who would think MLSE does not want Luongo.
I understand that Brian Burke was fired. Dave Nonis potentially taking over is simply a possibility, and likely one considering timing.

Luongo is absolutely a short-term investment. He's a guy who's going to hold maximum value immidiately, and be a declining asset until the day he retires.

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How is that a shift from that? You do understand the rumblings are that Nonis is taking over and that he is the man who brought Luongo over to Vancouver?

Luongo is not a short-term investment....you're probably the only one who would think MLSE does not want Luongo.
Actually I could see MLSE not wanting Luongo if it means giving up significant prospects or picks. If they thought Burke was making a bad trade to try and save his bacon then they had every right to fire him.

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