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01-09-2013, 05:31 PM
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7 d-men who deserve ice time. Only 6 d-men spots.

Love braun, murray, and demers, but one needs to go. Because it'd suck to stick one on the bench for the year.

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I like it. DW just better not overpay for him

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I like it. DW just better not overpay for him
Yeah, and pigs fly.

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How many roster spots do The Sharks have open? Don't they still have to ink Sheppard and a few others? Also would we all rather see Acolatse instead of Vandermeer? Unless he's being brought in just for fisticuffs.
By my count they currently have 44 contracts. Sheppard, McLaren, Petrecki, Viedensky, Pelech, Mashinter (I think that's accurate...) are all on AHL only deals.

Acolatse is going to be out for a while with a broken jaw.

Edit: According to capgeek only Petrecki & Sheppard aren't signed...the others I guess were signed to AHL deals so they didn't have to clear waivers.

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Murray said in an interview a couple of days ago that he was pretty badly hurt during the entire season last year and he is all healed up now. Don't see a point in trading him now unless he sucks and it's a trade deadline deal.
In that video of Murray scoring the goal that is floating around, his skating looks to be much better than it was last year which supports the notion that he was pretty banged up. He is only 1 year removed from playing on the top D pairing with Boyle, so unless his play regresses from last year I would be hard pressed to move him.

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In that video of Murray scoring the goal that is floating around, his skating looks to be much better than it was last year which supports the notion that he was pretty banged up. He is only 1 year removed from playing on the top D pairing with Boyle, so unless his play regresses from last year I would be hard pressed to move him.
While he technically played top minutes with Boyle, his numbers do not in anyway reflect top pairing ability. Advanced stats of course. Murray, at his very best, has #3 d-man level advanced stats, more commonly #4, and last season he barely qualified for a bottom pairing role. I like the guy, and I do think last season was an aberration, but he is not a #2 d-man on his best day. Neither was Lukowhich though, and he played by Boyle's side for years, now he can't even get a spot in the NHL.

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Would much rather call up Acolatse or Doherty.

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01-09-2013, 07:03 PM
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Would much rather call up Acolatse or Doherty.
Acolatse is injured and Doherty blows.

I'd rather call up Irwin than sign Vandermeer.

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While he technically played top minutes with Boyle, his numbers do not in anyway reflect top pairing ability. Advanced stats of course. Murray, at his very best, has #3 d-man level advanced stats, more commonly #4, and last season he barely qualified for a bottom pairing role. I like the guy, and I do think last season was an aberration, but he is not a #2 d-man on his best day. Neither was Lukowhich though, and he played by Boyle's side for years, now he can't even get a spot in the NHL.
Agreed. My comment was intended more to convey that I think a healthy Murray could very well approach his '10-'11 form rather than his '11-'12 form. That would put him as the 4th/5th best D-man on the team (depending on how Stuart plays) rather than 6th or 7th as some have suggested.

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Acolatse is injured and Doherty blows.

I'd rather call up Irwin than sign Vandermeer.
Doherty has a season ending injury, Achilles tendon.

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Didn't Acolatse just break his jaw? Suck it up and wear a cage.

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Didn't Acolatse just break his jaw? Suck it up and wear a cage.
Having broken my jaw, it affects more than just your mouth. Simply moving your head to the side can give you a terrible headache.

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I'm thinking he'd be used more as a 13th forward than a d-man.

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Having broken my jaw, it affects more than just your mouth. Simply moving your head to the side can give you a terrible headache.
You can take medication for that

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If Guod can get something for Murray, he should do it.

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God no. Vandermeer is as bad as White.
No he's not...

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No he's not...
Yes, he really is.

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Yes, he really is.
Sorry, my eyes and experience tell me otherwise. He'll be great as a #6 #7 on a team this deep on the blue line. Oh and he'll be cheap and can provide some rough stuff when needed.

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Sorry, my eyes and experience tell me otherwise. He'll be great as a #6 #7 on a team this deep on the blue line. Oh and he'll be cheap and can provide some rough stuff when needed.
Well, this board's general bias toward Vandermeer tells me otherwise.

He's a fine #7, but so was White.

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01-10-2013, 07:12 PM
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Well, this board's general bias toward Vandermeer tells me otherwise.

He's a fine #7, but so was White.
This board in general is biased by many who don't even know how to skate let alone rate a defensman who doesn't put up 50 points a season... White had a crap year learning a crap system in the D zone. I watched him play for years in NJ and he was above average most years. Moving to the west coast wasn't a good fit for him. This board always tries to find a scape goat for all that ails the team when more often than not it's more complex than simply blaming one or 2 players.

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Well, this board's general bias toward Vandermeer tells me otherwise.

He's a fine #7, but so was White.
I never saw this board as having bias against Vandermeer. I always saw it as more of a neutrality with some people getting mad that koala played White instead of him. Trying to re-up Vandy goes along with DW's not wanting to add too many new pieces from outside the system on account of the condensed season, he already knows the system from what little play he was actually given.

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01-10-2013, 07:32 PM
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I never saw this board as having bias against Vandermeer. I always saw it as more of a neutrality with some people getting mad that koala played White instead of him. Trying to re-up Vandy goes along with DW's not wanting to add too many new pieces from outside the system on account of the condensed season, he already knows the system from what little play he was actually given.
No, I mean bias in favor of Vandermeer because White was the whipping boy.

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They should Sign Semenov and Wallin for depth on the blue line and Vandermeer can be a 4th line forward.

Talk about amazing defense.

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01-10-2013, 08:37 PM
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I never saw this board as having bias against Vandermeer. I always saw it as more of a neutrality with some people getting mad that koala played White instead of him. Trying to re-up Vandy goes along with DW's not wanting to add too many new pieces from outside the system on account of the condensed season, he already knows the system from what little play he was actually given.
He's also fine with riding pine which is what he'll do a lot of when everyone is healthy... if every is healthy...

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No, I mean bias in favor of Vandermeer because White was the whipping boy.

Ah, gotcha.. misread your post. You're still wrong about him though. He's a perfect fit for the sharks at this moment.

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