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02-25-2013, 05:30 PM
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Remember Zach Thomas? This guy didn't have good measurables. Too slow and too short. He was drafted in 5th round and played for 13 years. He was named Pro Bowl 7 times. He had great instincts and always had a knack around the ball to make up his lack of speed.

I wouldn't read 40 times too much. We have seen guys who ran under 4.3 didn't succeed in NFL.


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Tebow had a great college career. Te'o was a marginal LB who only got publicity due to a an eventual hoax. He was not the best player in CFB nor the best D player (Clowney) or LB (Shazier, Jones).
Didn't say he wasn't good in college. Just that he wasn't the messiah (pun intended) the media made him out to be. He never came out of blowouts early and padded his stats quite a bit. At least he had the stats, where Teo doesn't. I'd guess that Teo will be a more prolific professional player though.

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Both guys at CBS ( not that they are great at scouting) now have Damontre Moore falling to us. I don't care if he only put up 2 reps. This isn't a bodybuilding competition. I'd absolutely take him at 17. However, GMs will also not care about that and he will be gone top 6.

I do have a feeling someone will fall though, as usual. I don't see it being Moore, but could it be Jarvis Jones, Star Lotulelei , Dee Milliner ? I'd take any of em.

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02-25-2013, 05:59 PM
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Didn't say he wasn't good in college. Just that he wasn't the messiah (pun intended) the media made him out to be. He never came out of blowouts early and padded his stats quite a bit. At least he had the stats, where Teo doesn't. I'd guess that Teo will be a more prolific professional player though.
For every annoying person that over hyped tebow , there's an equal amount of annoying people that hate him for really no reason. Just saying.

By the way, not directed at you...you were just the last post that mentioned him

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02-25-2013, 06:04 PM
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Didn't say he wasn't good in college. Just that he wasn't the messiah (pun intended) the media made him out to be. He never came out of blowouts early and padded his stats quite a bit. At least he had the stats, where Teo doesn't. I'd guess that Teo will be a more prolific professional player though.
Misunderstood you.

Regarding Moore, haven't watched much on him other than the Alabama game and I didn't notice him at all.

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02-26-2013, 03:02 AM
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Misunderstood you.

Regarding Moore, haven't watched much on him other than the Alabama game and I didn't notice him at all.
I thought Moore looked very good early in the season, so good that I thought he might be a top 5 pick. I particularly liked his game against LSU until he tweaked his leg/ankle about midway through that game. I didn't see that much of him later in the season, but he's definitely one I want the Steelers to draft if he's available.

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02-26-2013, 11:43 AM
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02-26-2013, 03:01 PM
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Not sure how much he wants, not sure how much we have to give, and I have no idea how the NFL salary cap works, but I would welcome him to the black and gold.

But that of course would mean we would be signing a free agent and that ain't happening!

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02-26-2013, 03:05 PM
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We don't have the cap space to sign anyone of a higher profile than Steve Breaston.

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02-26-2013, 03:15 PM
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We don't have the cap space to sign anyone of a higher profile than Steve Breaston.
I agree, which is why it makes sense to sign him. Steelers don't sign big name free agents, we have a hole at the WR position, Breaston is the ideal guy to sign because of Haley. Like I said before, the fact that he's from Pittsburgh is just a bonus.

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Steven Jackson is probably my favorite runningback in the NFL.

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How much longer will he be any good? He has a **** ton of miles on him.

I'm expecting a serious drop in production shortly

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Alex Smith traded to KC.

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Solid deal by KC; that second round pick was probably going to be used on a QB anyway. Now they know they got a sure thing.

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02-27-2013, 11:39 AM
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Yeah, but now the 49ers, a team who just went to the Super Bowl, get an early 2nd in a deep draft. They will have the 31st pick and the 34th pick.

Good deal by the Chiefs though, you need the proven guy over a rookie.

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02-27-2013, 11:41 AM
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Solid deal by KC; that second round pick was probably going to be used on a QB anyway. Now they know they got a sure thing.
Calling Alex Smith a "sure thing" is a joke, more like a known mediocre commodity. Cannot believe they gave a 2nd for him (not to mention the 33rd pick overall), not to mention a conditional mid round pick in 2014.

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02-27-2013, 12:41 PM
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Calling Alex Smith a "sure thing" is a joke, more like a known mediocre commodity. Cannot believe they gave a 2nd for him (not to mention the 33rd pick overall), not to mention a conditional mid round pick in 2014.
I agree, but he's more of a "sure thing" over a 2nd round pick.

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02-27-2013, 12:56 PM
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I agree, but he's more of a "sure thing" over a 2nd round pick.
I suppose you're right, but are the Chiefs really one mediocre QB away from the playoffs? They need help all over the place and just gave up the 1st pick in the 2nd round.

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02-27-2013, 01:21 PM
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I suppose you're right, but are the Chiefs really one mediocre QB away from the playoffs? They need help all over the place and just gave up the 1st pick in the 2nd round.
QB class in this draft is bad. I think Smith will do fine under Reid. He's definiteiy an upgrade over Cassels and Quinn.

KC defense is very good. They need some help on offense especially at receiver.

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I suppose you're right, but are the Chiefs really one mediocre QB away from the playoffs? They need help all over the place and just gave up the 1st pick in the 2nd round.
Yeah, I don't see that as a good move whatsoever. I get that this draft is pretty lousy with QB's but you'd just like to hope that with the 33rd overall pick they'd get someone with upside higher than Alex freaking Smith. If they want a known commodity theres plenty of free agents that'll probably yield similar results. Glad I am not a fan of the chiefs because that'd be a kick in the nuts if that was supposed to be our QB of the future.

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QB class in this draft is bad. I think Smith will do fine under Reid. He's definiteiy an upgrade over Cassels and Quinn.

KC defense is very good. They need some help on offense especially at receiver.
The deepest passes Smith threw with SF were 8-yard outs. He's a subpar at best QB who had better stats the last 2 years because he was only required to throw underneath almost the entire time and any QB can complete those passes, not to mention that his receivers were always open because SF sets picks on every play and are never called for it. I'd rather take my chances drafting a QB in the second or third round than trade away 2 picks for Smith and his $8M per year contract.

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Smith is a better QB than I'd bet on any of the QBs in this class being.

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The deepest passes Smith threw with SF were 8-yard outs. He's a subpar at best QB who had better stats the last 2 years because he was only required to throw underneath almost the entire time and any QB can complete those passes, not to mention that his receivers were always open because SF sets picks on every play and are never called for it. I'd rather take my chances drafting a QB in the second or third round than trade away 2 picks for Smith and his $8M per year contract.
He'll fit well under Reid. He's a game manager who doesn't make too many mistakes. The picks they gave up may be little high but they need a QB bad. No guarantee that Glennon or Barkley or any other QB prospects will succeed in NFL.

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Smith is a better QB than I'd bet on any of the QBs in this class being.
Just because Smith is paid like a starter doesn't mean he is anything more than a backup QB. There are plenty of those in free agency and I'm sure some of the QBs in the draft will reach at least that level as well.

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He'll fit well under Reid. He's a game manager who doesn't make too many mistakes. The picks they gave up may be little high but they need a QB bad. No guarantee that Glennon or Barkley or any other QB prospects will succeed in NFL.
They're going to suck anyway. You may as well keep the picks and build for the future.

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