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01-10-2013, 11:28 AM
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But he did get sent down to work on his defensive game. Not last year but two years ago.
agreed, but it was a short 11 game stay.

Down for a month basically. For a 19 year old, inconsistency is the only consistent.

The issue is overblown

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01-10-2013, 11:29 AM
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I would trade Yak for a package but MDZ is not the type of dman I would want in that package.

Yak is on an entry level contract so the cap hit is not that high.
What would the NYR offer up for Yak then, as I stated EDM needs are a big dman that is at least a legit top 3 that can play both sides of the ice, winger with size and a 2C with size?
Why would we start shipping off other major pieces for a guy who hasn't proved he's able to contribute at the NHL level? We're trying to win a cup, not add more maybes.

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01-10-2013, 11:30 AM
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or.. Instead of giving up Gagner Tambellini can pick up Redden.

Gagner is not part of EDMs big picture but trading him away now would leave a hole on our roster.
Rangers have the cap room to sign MDZ to a 3.5 million dollar contract AND eat the 5.6 dead cap space.

they are going to put Sauer on the LTIR thus removing his 1.25 hit

they are not going to trade a significant asset like MDZ to shed the Redden deal.

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I would trade Yak for a package but MDZ is not the type of dman I would want in that package.

Yak is on an entry level contract so the cap hit is not that high.
What would the NYR offer up for Yak then, as I stated EDM needs are a big dman that is at least a legit top 3 that can play both sides of the ice, winger with size and a 2C with size?
NYR:
Yak

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1st(Car)

CAR:
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01-10-2013, 11:31 AM
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NYR:
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EDM:
Faulk
1st(Car)

CAR:
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Would rather cut Edmonton out of the deal completely and deal with Carolina if that was the case.

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As per Eklund, EDM is interested in MDZ.
MDZ had a very good year last year but the year before was in the minors, you have to worry about one good year as many hockey players had a good year never to repeat it again.

Is MDZ the type of dman EDM needs, I don't think so I think they need a big rugged dman.

What do you think and if so what would it take, and remember Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak and Schultz are untouchable?
That's the problem with the oilers. The fans are just like the management, they want to get but don't want to give. Outside of those five untouchable pieces you mentioned, which other players would land you a top prospect like MDZ?

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01-10-2013, 11:33 AM
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NYR:
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EDM:
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CAR:
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Would rather cut Edmonton out of the deal completely and deal with Carolina if that was the case.
I agree Faulk and a 1st is not going to get you a 1st over all pick at any year draft.

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01-10-2013, 11:34 AM
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agreed, but it was a short 11 game stay.

Down for a month basically. For a 19 year old, inconsistency is the only consistent.

The issue is overblown
I think people forget because he only played about half of the season in the NHL.

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MDZ is worth more than Schultz

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That's the problem with the oilers. The fans are just like the management, they want to get but don't want to give. Outside of those five untouchable pieces you mentioned, which other players would land you a top prospect like MDZ?
Like I stated I would move Yak but MDZ is not going to do it.

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That's the problem with the oilers. The fans are just like the management, they want to get but don't want to give. Outside of those five untouchable pieces you mentioned, which other players would land you a top prospect like MDZ?
In all fairness, I don't think their management is this bad when it comes to trades. They just refuse to part with their young talent, which is understandable. They have alot of young, exciting pieces, as much as it pains me to say it.

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Like I stated I would move Yak but MDZ is not going to do it.
I wonder if the rangers would trade Mcdonagh?

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Redden? The Rangers take the $5.6M cap hit this season with the $70.2M cap. Amnesty buyout in June.

The Rangers need to add a defenseman or maybe 2 before the trading deadline. Not subtract a top 4 D.

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I think people forget because he only played about half of the season in the NHL.
agreed. playing in just 47 games, one assumes the other 35 were in the AHL

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In all fairness, I don't think their management is this bad when it comes to trades. They just refuse to part with their young talent, which is understandable. They have alot of young, exciting pieces, as much as it pains me to say it.
Colorado traded away shattenkirk and Stewart for Johnson. At the time of the trade they were two of the best players on the team and fans were really in love with them. It was tough seeing them traded at first but reality was our defense sucked and we were really in need of a top dman. The trade has worked out well so far and I would make the trade again any day. I'm sure blues fans will also say the same.

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If this came from Hockeybuzz, it probably means it has zero chance of happening, ha ha.

The Oilers don't need MDZ, although he would be an upgrade. If we're moving for a defenseman, it needs to be a Marc Staal kind of guy, which won't happen but would fill the needs.

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I wonder if the rangers would trade Mcdonagh?
Not at all.

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will need more than that
Definetely agree with this. My "guestimate" will that EDM's pick would be somewhere between 8-16, and which while having signficant value, the deal makes NO sense from the Rangers perspective because they're a Stanley Cup contender. That pick likely wouldn't be contributing on the Rangers until 2015, and MDZ it a top 4 d-man right now.

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NYR is not going to trade MDZ, unless it's a massive over payment. MDZ is not what the Oilers are looking for either, they need more of a veteran physical D, preferably with a RHS.

If the right player came along for the Oilers I would trade Yakupov, but I'm not sure if MDZ by himself would do it.

You would think by now the HF would of removed Eklund as a creditable source.

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Can`t they still offersheet him, if he even want to come to Edmonton? Sure, Rangers can eat a stupid cap hit for MDZ now, but they know they also need to re-sign Stepan and McDonagh soon without anything huge (other than Redden, who wasn`t counting against the cap so far anyway) coming of the books.

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NYR is not going to trade MDZ, unless it's a massive over payment. MDZ is not what the Oilers are looking for either, they need more of a veteran physical D, preferably with a RHS.
Edmonton really needs a top pairing all-around D. It can't just be a physical D, because their puck movement/offence from the blueline has been pretty terrible the last few years, and Schultz won't single-handedly fix that issue.

As for just getting a second pairing type of guy? They already have Schultz, Smid, and Petry right now, with Klefbom, Marincin, etc coming up the pipeline. Sure, getting a second pairing guy would help, but longterm they're still likely looking for a top pairing/#1 guy.

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Mdz had a pretty good ilfirst year but needed to work on his defense, last year he got sent back down because of said defense and this year he's back after working on it in the minors.
Yeah this isn't even in the realm of accurate. He was sent down a couple of years back for ELEVEN games because he was inconsistent. Last year he was a stud, finished like 16th in Norris voting, played the full season, had a career year and was dramatically better on defense. This year could be a breakout season for him.

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Can`t they still offersheet him, if he even want to come to Edmonton? Sure, Rangers can eat a stupid cap hit for MDZ now, but they know they also need to re-sign Stepan and McDonagh soon without anything huge (other than Redden, who wasn`t counting against the cap so far anyway) coming of the books.
Does Edmonton really want a large market team putting a bullseye on RNH for poaching purposes?

Plus with the Sather/EDM connection, I doubt they try that type of end around.

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Schultz + Hartikainen for MDZ

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Does Edmonton really want a large market team putting a bullseye on RNH for poaching purposes?

Plus with the Sather/EDM connection, I doubt they try that type of end around.
I'm not convinced the Oilers would even be concerned with RNH signing an offer sheet.

Do the Rangers have the cap space to offer him an AAV of greater than 6M? RNH must know that he's getting a contract with an AAV of 6M (just like Hall and Eberle) and with term of 6-8 years.

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