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#Canucks prospects Alexandre Grenier and Alexandre Mallet each grab assists in @KalamazooWings 4-2 loss tonight. #ECHL
Grenier off to a good start, I still have hopes that he turns into a solid bottom six player. His size and skill is a rare combination, he just needs consistency and strength.
Yeah, it's pretty impressive. Even if you include non-rookie Junior age players, Jensen stacks up extremely well in terms of goals. In the last 20 years, here are the 10 best goal scoring seasons by Jr. aged players in the SEL:
1) Forsberg (92-93): 23
2) Hornqvist (06-07): 23
3) Naslund (91-92): 22
4) Naslund: (92-93): 22
5) D. Sedin (98-99): 21
6) D. Sedin (99-00): 19
7) Weinhandl (99-00): 15
8) Jensen (12-13): 14
9) Tedenby (09-10): 12
10) Bäckstrom (06-07): 12
On that list, Jensen is the only rookie, though obviously he's older than most of the other guys were in their rookie years. Still not bad for his first taste of pro hockey.
Yeah, it's pretty impressive. Even if you include non-rookie Junior age players, Jensen stacks up extremely well in terms of goals. In the last 20 years, here are the 10 best goal scoring seasons by Jr. aged players in the SEL:
1) Forsberg (92-93): 23
2) Hornqvist (06-07): 23
3) Naslund (91-92): 22
4) Naslund: (92-93): 22
5) D. Sedin (98-99): 21
6) D. Sedin (99-00): 19
7) Weinhandl (99-00): 15
8) Jensen (12-13): 14
9) Tedenby (09-10): 12
10) Bäckstrom (06-07): 12
On that list, Jensen is the only rookie, though obviously he's older than most of the other guys were in their rookie years. Still not bad for his first taste of pro hockey.
1) .59 GPG, the team also had two other guys (Naslund and Lars Bystrom) within one goal.
2) .47 GPG, playing with Fredrik Bremberg who had 23 goals and an insane 64 points (to Hornqvist's 34)
3) .56 GPG, no one was even close to Naslund that year
4) .56 GPG, see #1 above
5) .42 GPG, this team was stacked: Henrik Sedin, Samuel Pahlsson, Magnus Wernblom, Frantisek Kaberle, etc. Very high scoring.
6) .38 GPG, similarly stacked team
7) .47 GPG, see #5 and #6
8) .37 GPG, two other guys with .28GPG but overall the team's offense is as ****** as their play and ranking
9) .27 GPG, this team is ridiculous: Tedenby is tied for 8th with 3 other guys...
10) .27 GPG, 3 other guys with more goals but Backstrom was the best player (highest point totals)
I would say he compares well to Hornqvist, Daniel, Weinhandl and Backstrom. Definitely not even close to what Forsberg and Naslund were doing, but I'm also unsure about the overall level of scoring in the SEL back then. Tedenby is the only guy that has no business being on the list once you look beyond the goal totals — that team was just an offensive powerhouse.
1) .59 GPG, the team also had two other guys (Naslund and Lars Bystrom) within one goal.
2) .47 GPG, playing with Fredrik Bremberg who had 23 goals and an insane 64 points (to Hornqvist's 34)
3) .56 GPG, no one was even close to Naslund that year
4) .56 GPG, see #1 above
5) .42 GPG, this team was stacked: Henrik Sedin, Samuel Pahlsson, Magnus Wernblom, Frantisek Kaberle, etc. Very high scoring.
6) .38 GPG, similarly stacked team
7) .47 GPG, see #5 and #6
8) .37 GPG, two other guys with .28GPG but overall the team's offense is as ****** as their play and ranking
9) .27 GPG, this team is ridiculous: Tedenby is tied for 8th with 3 other guys...
10) .27 GPG, 3 other guys with more goals but Backstrom was the best player (highest point totals)
I would say he compares well to Hornqvist, Daniel, Weinhandl and Backstrom. Definitely not even close to what Forsberg and Naslund were doing, but I'm also unsure about the overall level of scoring in the SEL back then. Tedenby is the only guy that has no business being on the list once you look beyond the goal totals — that team was just an offensive powerhouse.
I would say he compares well to Hornqvist, Daniel, Weinhandl and Backstrom. Definitely not even close to what Forsberg and Naslund were doing, but I'm also unsure about the overall level of scoring in the SEL back then. Tedenby is the only guy that has no business being on the list once you look beyond the goal totals — that team was just an offensive powerhouse.
to be fair, forsberg and nasland have each other to feed off of, both are excellent playmakers. the sedins too. jensen seems to be doing most of the work on his own, his linemates aren't star quality. i think jensen still compares well to those guys, at least in terms of goal scoring.
to be fair, forsberg and nasland have each other to feed off of, both are excellent playmakers. the sedins too. jensen seems to be doing most of the work on his own, his linemates aren't star quality. i think jensen still compares well to those guys, at least in terms of goal scoring.
The first year that Naslund put up those goal totals, Forsberg only had 9 goals. While his team was better than Jensen's, his 22 goals was still 8 more than the next highest scorer. He also did it in 39 games, which is 1 more game than Jensen has right now.
I would say that what those two did is definitely in a different league. But that's not bad, expecting him to measure up to Naslund and Forsberg is ridiculous. He's in good company with those other guys.
Well glad he's getting points, him and Mallet need to be in the AHL before season's end.
They may just treat them as they did Archibald last season and keep them in the ECHL. Then, next year, let them have a shot in the AHL along with Jensen.
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#Canucks prospect Evan McEneny had an assist in @OHLRangers 5-3 win today. Now has 20PTS (5-15-20) in 40GP. Also now on a 3-game point-steak
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#Canucks prospect Evan McEneny had an assist in @OHLRangers 5-3 win today. Now has 20PTS (5-15-20) in 40GP. Also now on a 3-game point-steak
Good to hear. That signing was like getting an extra 3rd round pick. I like.
Some interesting quotes regarding Cannata's struggles early this season:
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“I started in Kalamazoo (ECHL) and played five games there and struggled with the mental part of it for sure,” Cannata said Monday. “It was something different for me coming from college and playing most nights. It’s been great having the goalie coaches here with Rollie (Melanson) and Dan (Cloutier) helping with the mental part and ever since I’ve been in Chicago with the Wolves, I’ve been more positive in learning from the older guys. I just have to keep telling myself my time will come.”
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“I’m excited for him and it’s great to see another kid from my area who took a similar path to succeed because it’s not easy,” said Schneider. “As you get older and more advanced in your career, you have to look at the younger guys and remember who has helped you along the way. We’ve spoken a few times during the season and I’m just going to help him adjust mentally and be a professional.”
Cannata worked with Melanson at the Canucks prospect camp for a week in the summer and had two visits from Cloutier in Kalamazoo and another in Chicago. He also worked the phone and called Schneider when things weren’t working on the ice or away from it.
A little OT but was at the Victoria/Kamloops game tonight (6-4 VIC)
-Bozon is a very good player, I was surprised at how big he was, skates well, is usually in the right area and a terrific shot. His line was buzzing. Great pick by Montreal, shame we didn't have a 3rd round pick last year.
-Colin Smith is the guy who makes that team go, very very good pick by Colorado for a 7th round pick. These are the kind of guys we always miss.
-JC Lipon's skating is not great. This will hold him back. Great work ethic and chippiness though, but took an AWFUL penalty by going over the line. I see him as a late 2nd round/early 3rd kinda guy
-Steve Hodges had an awesome game, very shifty player, accurate shot and good moves. Nice pick by Florida (3rd round)
Sucks to watch all these great WHLers picked in round 2-7 get passed over and over again by the Canucks. I keep seeing Damon Severson play and get so frustrated about passing him for Mallet.
Sucks to watch all these great WHLers picked in round 2-7 get passed over and over again by the Canucks. I keep seeing Damon Severson play and get so frustrated about passing him for Mallet.
I don't really understand this sentiment. They're doing well at the junior level. Guess what? So did Mallet. None of them have made their mark at the pro level yet.
Yup, points in the junior level do not mean much, there are many other factors to be considered if the players game can translate to the NHL. I also do not think WHL is the best development league either.
Emerson Etem scored 61 goals in 65 games last season for the Medicine Hat Tigers. The entire prospect board was in a uproar that he is the next Mike Bossy in the making, claiming that he was the steal of the draft and a guaranteed NHL star.
He is now playing in the AHL and has scored 9 goals, 1 assist in 34 games.
Yup, points in the junior level do not mean much, there are many other factors to be considered if the players game can translate to the NHL. I also do not think WHL is the best development league either.
Emerson Etem scored 61 goals in 65 games last season for the Medicine Hat Tigers. The entire prospect board was in a uproar that he is the next Mike Bossy in the making, claiming that he was the steal of the draft and a guaranteed NHL star.
He is now playing in the AHL and has scored 9 goals, 1 assist in 34 games.
Sure but your not going to get many if any that score 20 points in the WHL etc that go on to score 60 points + etc in the NHL.
