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01-11-2013, 06:04 PM
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Ryane Clowe to PIT

I am curious what San Jose fans would think would be fair value for Clowe to come over to Pittsburgh in a trade. Also curious what you believe the mid season trade value would be, and deal line trade value.

Not making any presumptions, just simply curious in a food for thought fashion what the fan base believes his value would be with a trade from the Penguins org.


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Any win now acquisition made my Pittsburgh is going to involve one or 2 of your D man Prospects.

Pitt has such a bevy of solid D man prospects they could potentially acquire a wide variety of players depending on how much they are willing to part with.

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I am curious what San Jose fans would think would be fair value for Clowe to come over to Pittsburgh in a trade. Also curious what you believe the mid season trade value would be, and deal line trade value.

Not making any presumptions, just simply curious in a food for thought fashion what the fan base believes his value would be with a trade from the Penguins org.
Doubt we trade Clowe for prospects since we will most likely be in contention this year.

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Any win now acquisition made my Pittsburgh is going to involve one or 2 of your D man Prospects.

Pitt has such a bevy of solid D man prospects they could potentially acquire a wide variety of players depending on how much they are willing to part with.
No doubt that a d prospect would odds are be in the asking from SJ, was just wondering what Sharks fans would want. Like X player + Y draft pick sorta thing.

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Doubt we trade Clowe for prospects since we will most likely be in contention this year.
Not saying he will be, and if he were it most likely wouldn't be until deadline time. Was just curious what SJ fans would value in a trade from Pittsburgh if they themselves were executing/offering the trade.

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Despres could possibly be a D on the table. Which forward would you add.

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It would probably take Orpik to get a deal going.

A deal for Clowe would make sense for neither team when you think about what SJ would need back.

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Doubtful a deal can be done with SJ.

Heres SJ's situation

Stacked in D depth and prospects
Goaltending prospect system is stacked
Thin on the top 6 forwards
Thin on forward depth

Sharks need goal scoring, defensively responsible forwards, and its a big plus if they can win faceoffs and PK.

So unless you can somehow get us Jannik Hansen, Dave Bolland, or something equivalent to them. There isn't anything you can do that would make us a better team.

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Ryane Clowe's name must be the most misspelled one on these boards.

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Ryane Clowe's name must be the most misspelled one on these boards.
Corrected, thanks for the heads up.

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01-11-2013, 06:52 PM
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Doubtful a deal can be done with SJ.

Heres SJ's situation

Stacked in D depth and prospects
Goaltending prospect system is stacked
Thin on the top 6 forwards
Thin on forward depth

Sharks need goal scoring, defensively responsible forwards, and its a big plus if they can win faceoffs and PK.

So unless you can somehow get us Jannik Hansen, Dave Bolland, or something equivalent to them. There isn't anything you can do that would make us a better team.
I might be misremembering this, but wasn`t Chicago`s PK pretty abysmal?

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I might be misremembering this, but wasn`t Chicago`s PK pretty abysmal?
Yes, but that can hardly be blamed on Bolland.

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Fixed. Our only top 6 wingers are Havlat and Clowe. Everyone in the top 6 are natural centers.

If we trade Clowe we'll be looking for a faster top 6 winger, or a top-notch 3C (ie. Bolland, Helm, Hansen, etc.). Trading Clowe away is like Pitt trading Kunitz away. It doesn't really make sense unless Clowe clearly wants out.
You can never have enough natural centers, friend. Having too many centers is not a problem at all. In fact, its a good problem to have since everybody wants them.

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I might be misremembering this, but wasn`t Chicago`s PK pretty abysmal?
What do you mean?

Are you saying that Chicago's PK sucks because of Bolland? Therefore, won't help the Sharks?
Or are you saying that Chicago won't trade Bolland because their PK will get worse?

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Despres could possibly be a D on the table. Which forward would you add.
Sharks: Despres + Kennedy

Penguins: Clowe + 3rd round pick

???

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Sharks: Despres + Kennedy

Penguins: Clowe + 3rd round pick

???
How about:

Despres+Kennedy+1st (or Tangradi+3rd)

for

Clowe + Murray.

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Despres could possibly be a D on the table. Which forward would you add.
We don't

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Sharks: Despres + Kennedy

Penguins: Clowe + 3rd round pick

???
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How about:

Despres+Kennedy+1st (or Tangradi+3rd)

for

Clowe + Murray.
Defensemen.

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Corrected, thanks for the heads up.
Happy to help. Its an easy mistake to make, "Ryane" is not exactly the usual spelling of that particular name.

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Sharks need speed. Fast, scorning wingers. We're pretty solid in the faceoff department, so that's not so much of an issue, though the defensive responsibility is always a good thing.

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Any win now acquisition made my Pittsburgh is going to involve one or 2 of your D man Prospects.

Pitt has such a bevy of solid D man prospects they could potentially acquire a wide variety of players depending on how much they are willing to part with.
Except to the Sharks, who have a ton of defensive prospects and who currently have 1 more NHL defenseman than they can really use. None of Murray, Demers, or Braun should be sitting this year, but at the moment, one of them will need to be.

The only prospects the Sharks need are top-6 lock forwards. We have defensive forward prospects out the rear. Defensemen prospects out the rear. And literally more goalie prospects than have room for.

But really, if the Sharks move Clowe it is for a younger, "proven" top-6 forward of a different style (better speed, more of a shooter vs. Clowe who is slower, more physical, and more of a playmaker). Unless they move other assets to fill in the bottom 6 (which personally, I don't think they need to do), then they won't trade Clowe for prospects or bottom-6 forwards.

So really, if the Penguins want Clowe, which top-6 forward are they willing to move? The only young NHL player likely to interest the Sharks is Brandon Sutter, but I doubt he is moved.

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Ryan Clowe has value?

Maybe a mid to late round pick...but Pitt already has Matt Cooke so not sure they need another goon

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Except to the Sharks, who have a ton of defensive prospects and who currently have 1 more NHL defenseman than they can really use. None of Murray, Demers, or Braun should be sitting this year, but at the moment, one of them will need to be.

The only prospects the Sharks need are top-6 lock forwards. We have defensive forward prospects out the rear. Defensemen prospects out the rear. And literally more goalie prospects than have room for.

But really, if the Sharks move Clowe it is for a younger, "proven" top-6 forward of a different style (better speed, more of a shooter vs. Clowe who is slower, more physical, and more of a playmaker). Unless they move other assets to fill in the bottom 6 (which personally, I don't think they need to do), then they won't trade Clowe for prospects or bottom-6 forwards.

So really, if the Penguins want Clowe, which top-6 forward are they willing to move? The only young NHL player likely to interest the Sharks is Brandon Sutter, but I doubt he is moved.
The only tradeable assets Pitt has are D prospects, they aren't trading Sutter. It doesnt have to a 2 team deal, pitt can dish some d prospects for some forwards and swing them to sj for clowe. Easy as that.

Detorit might be a good trading partner since they have a lot of forward prospects to choose from and could use a d prospect or two.

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Sharks need speed. Fast, scorning wingers. We're pretty solid in the faceoff department, so that's not so much of an issue, though the defensive responsibility is always a good thing.
We have a Tyler Kennedy we can give you in trade!

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Ryan Clowe has value?

Maybe a mid to late round pick...but Pitt already has Matt Cooke so not sure they need another goon
I guess you don't watch the Sharks. Clowe is much better than Cooke. He has improved over the past 2-3 years and his Shootout moves have helped us out.

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The only tradeable assets Pitt has are D prospects, they aren't trading Sutter. It doesnt have to a 2 team deal, pitt can dish some d prospects for some forwards and swing them to sj for clowe. Easy as that.

Detorit might be a good trading partner since they have a lot of forward prospects to choose from and could use a d prospect or two.
It makes no sense for us to trade Clowe for forward prospects unless it looks like we will miss the playoffs.

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I am more than a little surprised that Pens fans are always looking to trade for a winger.

If there is anything the Penguins don't need it is forwards. That is the strength of the team.

The Penguins D on the other hand was absolutely horrible in the playoffs and really lacks a rock solid shutdown defenseman. That is what they need to trade for if anything in my opinion.

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