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05-22-2013, 08:16 PM
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What is the origin of goalie mask art?

Was there a pioneer that started this trend? Also, have there been different generations of styles? Who are the main artists? Why can I not stop typing questions?

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David Gunnarsson is probably my favourite mask artist. first did mask for Johan Hedberg but does lots of goalies now

http://www.daveart.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMLhi...3CDB06D3C383BE

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Wasn't Gerry Cheever's the first one with the scars on his mask? Not positive though.

This question is better suited for the History board.

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Was it Cheevers with his stitch-marks?

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David Gunnarsson is probably my favourite mask artist. first did mask for Johan Hedberg but does lots of goalies now

http://www.daveart.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMLhi...3CDB06D3C383BE
He does the worst masks.

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David Gunnarsson is probably my favourite mask artist. first did mask for Johan Hedberg but does lots of goalies now

http://www.daveart.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMLhi...3CDB06D3C383BE
His are all so busy and cluttered, not a fan.

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I actually did an article on this with one of the best new mask artists out there today:

https://thehockeywriters.com/an-in-d...-airbrush-art/

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There's Cheevers' mask and then there's Rutherford's mask a couple years later.

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Cheevers was the first to have any kind of "decoration" on his mask. Others followed with simplistic, sometimes amateurish artwork but the first guy I can recall with real airbrushed, detailed artwork is Gilles Gratton, mid-70's:



Agreed, this is better off in the History forum.

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Cheevers was the first to have any kind of "decoration" on his mask. Others followed with simplistic, sometimes amateurish artwork but the first guy I can recall with real airbrushed, detailed artwork is Gilles Gratton, mid-70's:



Agreed, this is better off in the History forum.
Apparently, in Terry Sawchuk's bio, it is mentioned that Cheevers copied the idea from another not well known goalie who played in the 60's.

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The first guy to wear a "coloured mask" was Doug Favell while with Philadelphia and entirely accidental, not by design, which as a Halloween prank was painted by his team mates orange. Chico Resch was the first to go with a full theme, an artist friend airbrushing on images . In Toronto, a goalie by the name of Greg Harrison who played for the University of Toronto & Senior in Barrie started making masks and as a graphic artist, offered custom paint jobs, doing that cat job posted above. I had a custom Harrison myself, but no paint job. Just left it bondo grey... as for Cheevers, apparently what happened there was that he hated to practice, would slip off the ice quietly if possible, feign an injury or whatever to get out of it. One time a shot was a tad high, upsetting Gerry, so he splits for the dressing room, cracks open a cold one, lights up a cigarette where a few minutes later Harry Sinden finds him. Orders Cheesy back out, who holds up his mask pointing to a puck mark, claiming he took one in the head, groggy. Sinden doesnt buy it, get out on the ice or your fined. Thereafter as Cheevers private joke, had the Trainer paint on & highlight puck & stick marks with stitches. Thing is, that mask he used, had he ever really taken a serious shot on it wouldve cracked & fragmented, splintering into pieces & dust like an eggshell.


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He does the worst masks.
Yeah it's like he still thinks it's 2001 or something. Bad fashion.

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This was the first one. The first few stitch marks were legit. Then he just started filling in the rest.

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Rumour has it that Gary Suitcase Smith then with the Oakland Seals painted his mask yellow, pre-dating Favells Halloween Orange mask. Cant seem to find anything to verify it though.

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Rumour has it that Gary Suitcase Smith then with the Oakland Seals painted his mask yellow, pre-dating Favells Halloween Orange mask. Cant seem to find anything to verify it though.
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He was with Philly from 67-68 through 72-73 so can't confirm what year he first had it painted orange. There are also photos of this mask with white and orange "rays" coming out from the center.

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Excellent... another "Aha, myth shattered" moment here on hf SealsFan. Excellent work! Doug Favell's mask was painted orange in October 1971, the story varying between either the players pulling a prank on him or Favell himself having the Trainer paint it for him, HOWEVER, Gary Suitcase Smith there beats him by a year, 1970/71. And that actually makes a lot more sense, fits, as Smith was a complete outlier, a noted eccentric, who in his 1st NHL game decides he's gonna try & score a goal, skating clean on down to the Habs blue-line in full on deke mode before JC Tremblay decks him. Another time "punting" the puck at Maple Leaf Gardens very nearly shattering the overhead scoreboard & causing an electrical fire: after a loss so disturbed he'd leave the ice directly for his car bye-passing the dressing room, driving home fully dressed, skates on.

... also, Favells mask was re-painted several times, the last one white with the big blue Leaf on it, now residing in the HHOF.

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This was the first one. The first few stitch marks were legit. Then he just started filling in the rest.
I used to wonder about that particular claim. If he was really stopping that many shots with his head, he should have tried using his stick a bit more often.

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I used to wonder about that particular claim. If he was really stopping that many shots with his head, he should have tried using his stick a bit more often.
If he was taking that many shots to the head, he wouldnt have known what he was doing in the crease at all, his career ending in tragedy, and that clearly wasnt the case with Cheevers. About the only times you'd accidentally take a shot off the mask would be on a deflection, as in almost never. Bathgates shot on Plante that cut him so badly precipitating the use of masks en masse was a freak. With a custom face flush mask you actually increased the odds of getting hit in the head off a deflection as your peripheral vision down & from the sides was restricted. Blind spots, and you cant react to what you cant see coming.

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How many helmets does a skater go through in a season? It would be cool if they had some art on their helmets.

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How many helmets does a skater go through in a season? It would be cool if they had some art on their helmets.
I dont think thats allowed. NHL requiring uniformity. Interesting idea though.

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I dont think thats allowed. NHL requiring uniformity. Interesting idea though.
It would be nice. Make players stand out more. I wonder if it would distract players while playing, like how goalie pad colours and t-shirt colours in the crowd have been reported to do.

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It would be nice. Make players stand out more. I wonder if it would distract players while playing, like how goalie pad colours and t-shirt colours in the crowd have been reported to do.
An argument against the helmet was that you wouldn't be able to identify the players on sight any more. Not too convincing, as you had the big number on the uniform plus the player's height, weight, skating style and elbow work ... and you really could see most of his face anyway.


Now, maybe they could have required that the helmet be painted to match the player's hair color. Bobby "Golden Jet" Hull could have had a blonde helmet, with added flesh tone as he got balder, then reversing the process after his hair transplant. You'd have black, brown, red and bald or gray on the old-timers. Do you think that would work?

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Bobby "Golden Jet" Hull could have had a blonde helmet, with added flesh tone as he got balder, then reversing the process after his hair transplant. You'd have black, brown, red and bald or gray on the old-timers. Do you think that would work?
.... that thought crossed my mind as well, only use real hair, like a wig, which reminds me of the hilarious story from the WHA. The Bulls vs Jets in Winnipeg. Hanson jumps Bobby Hull from behind and rips off his toupee' which back then were stitched into the scalp. So theres Hull, blood everywhere, Hanson skating around holding aloft his "trophy" likes its the Stanley Cup.

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