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One of the Most Unbreakable Gretzky Records

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01-19-2013, 04:40 PM
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I will always be grateful i was fortunate to be born in a time where I got to see Wayne Gretzky play his first NHL game on TV.

I watched his whole career and I can tell you the guy made a total JOKE of the league. Sure the goaltending was weak, but it was the same goaltending Lafleur, Clarke, and Orr had.

Gretzky changed the way the game was played and I have no idea how long it will be until another guy comes along and totally changes the game by his will alone.

Maybe another 50 years.

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01-19-2013, 04:54 PM
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i think his point was that gretzky himself could not break gretzky's records today.

but maybe the more interesting question re: scoring levels w/r/t era is if 80s gretzky had never existed and an 18 year old gretzky came into the league today, could he break the records that would belong to mario? without thinking too hard about it and scrutinizing the numbers, my gut says yes but just barely.
Hard to say. Put the same passion, dedication, and talent through four years of a modern development and conditioning program, and wonder what the end result might look like by 18 years old, playing relatively obstruction-free hockey... Where's the limit, really?

If anyone could have predicted the utmost heights Gretzky would eventually hit, someone would have figured how to stop/slow him down many years earlier. Pretending to be able to predict the heights someone like that could reach under any new set of conditions would almost imply that one could understand how the hockey brain of someone like Wayne Gretzky solves problems, and then gets his body to react in all the right ways.

Guess it's true of any cross-generational comparison, really. What they used to the most advantage under one set of circumstances might not be the same under another. Players with more/better "tools" should be productive under the wider range of conditions, though. I think Gretzky qualifies as having more/better tools than the average dude.

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01-20-2013, 04:15 PM
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50 in 39 has got to be the toughest. We barely see 50 in 80 nowadays

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01-20-2013, 04:43 PM
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Gretzky scored a total of 3,239 points in his career, regular season and playoffs combined.

The maximum number of games a player can play during a single campaign, barring a trade, is 110 (82+28).

If a player played 29 seasons, playing the maximum number of games possible in each, and scored 1 point in every single one of those games (3,190), that player would STILL fall 39 points short of TYING Gretzky, not surpassing him.

For the record, Gretzky played 1,544 less games than he had points (1,695).

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Gretzky scored a total of 3,239 points in his career, regular season and playoffs combined.

The maximum number of games a player can play during a single campaign, barring a trade, is 110 (82+28).

If a player played 29 seasons, playing the maximum number of games possible in each, and scored 1 point in every single one of those games (3,190), that player would STILL fall 39 points short of TYING Gretzky, not surpassing him.

For the record, Gretzky played 1,544 less games than he had points (1,695).
Think of all the multi-point games needed ON TOP of playing no worse than PPG for the rest...

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01-20-2013, 07:41 PM
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IMO the most shocking Gretzky statistic is that, as of the end of the 2011-12 season, Gretzky single-handled scored or assisted on 1% of every regular season goal in NHL history.

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