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01-14-2013, 04:15 PM
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Sabres set single-day ticket sale record

Looks like the Sabres won't be facing too much lockout backlash. People in western NY desperate for some hockey.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?...d=nhl:topheads

Club record for single-day ticket sales, not counting the first day of availability of 2008 Winter Classic tickets.

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They are buying tickets so they can stage a boycott during the game. We're sitting here, but we're not happy about it!

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These numbers don't tell the full story..

The 30K tickets aren't for a single game, that's not possible because no NHL arena exists that holds that many people.

The 30K tickets are for the rest of the season, and of course the STHs rushed to buy them because they were likely deeply discounted.

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These numbers don't tell the full story..

The 30K tickets aren't for a single game, that's not possible because no NHL arena exists that holds that many people.

The 30K tickets are for the rest of the season, and of course the STHs rushed to buy them because they were likely deeply discounted.
Yes, there were 80k tickets remaining for the rest of the season, season ticket holders bought an extra 30k tickets (they got first dibs before general public). So, only 50k tickets are left for the public for rest of the season.

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Yes, there were 80k tickets remaining for the rest of the season, season ticket holders bought an extra 30k tickets (they got first dibs before general public). So, only 50k tickets are left for the public for rest of the season.
And the story THAT tells (if your information is accurate) is the sabres are having somewhat of a hard time selling out their arena.

In the more popular markets the STHs would take up all 80K tickets, if for no reason then to resell them for more money.

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And the story THAT tells (if your information is accurate) is the sabres are having somewhat of a hard time selling out their arena.

In the more popular markets the STHs would take up all 80K tickets, if for no reason then to resell them for more money.
Huh lol? I'm sure there is a limit, they have to leave aside some tickets for the general public. Clearly every game is going to be sold out this season, there is only 50k tickets left for 24 home games, most of those tickets will probably sell like hot cakes when they go on sale to the public on Tuesday. Wouldn't be surprised if all 50k are gone in the next week.

How the heck does this news translate to the Sabres struggling to sell tickets?

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And the story THAT tells (if your information is accurate) is the sabres are having somewhat of a hard time selling out their arena.

In the more popular markets the STHs would take up all 80K tickets, if for no reason then to resell them for more money.
Keep in mind that they bought of 30K of the available 80K for the season in only the first 24 hours of ticket availability. They sold nearly half of their remaining ticket inventory for the year in just the first day.

That sure doesn't look to me like they are having "a hard time" or are a "less popular market." On the contrary, given how many they sold in the first day alone, seems like they should have absolutely no problem selling out the season.

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These numbers don't tell the full story..

The 30K tickets aren't for a single game, that's not possible because no NHL arena exists that holds that many people.

The 30K tickets are for the rest of the season, and of course the STHs rushed to buy them because they were likely deeply discounted.
And the tickets weren't "deeply discounted" they weren't discounted at all.

You are aware Buffalo is a very good hockey market, right? Consistently leading the league in local ratings for American markets, great attendance since 04 lockout etc?

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And last I read, the Sabres STH waiting list has thousands on it. Over 80% of STH are WNYers.

Bring back the Tigers. It won't hurt Buffalo or Toronto.

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And last I read, the Sabres STH waiting list has thousands on it. Over 80% of STH are WNYers.

Bring back the Tigers. It won't hurt Buffalo or Toronto.
Correct, the Sabres currently cap their season ticket holders at around 15,000 tickets, and there is a 3,000+ waiting list to get season tickets. Currently, there is a 99% renewal rate as well, so you'll be waiting for a few years if you want to be a season ticket holder.

http://sabres.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=569764

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Huh lol? I'm sure there is a limit, they have to leave aside some tickets for the general public. Clearly every game is going to be sold out this season, there is only 50k tickets left for 24 home games, most of those tickets will probably sell like hot cakes when they go on sale to the public on Tuesday. Wouldn't be surprised if all 50k are gone in the next week.

How the heck does this news translate to the Sabres struggling to sell tickets?
Oh, nevermind. I wasn't thinking straight.

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Correct, the Sabres currently cap their season ticket holders at around 15,000 tickets, and there is a 3,000+ waiting list to get season tickets. Currently, there is a 99% renewal rate as well, so you'll be waiting for a few years if you want to be a season ticket holder.

http://sabres.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=569764
few years lol more like decades if what u say is correct

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few years lol more like decades if what u say is correct
Well it's all in that article, the 99% renewal was a record, so as long as things stay good then yeah, good luck getting season tickets. I had originally thought the season tickets were capped at around 11k, but this says 15,200 tickets.

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Another point. Sabres added capacity this offseason. Around 500 seats. Now have over 19,000 capacity.

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Correct, the Sabres currently cap their season ticket holders at around 15,000 tickets, and there is a 3,000+ waiting list to get season tickets. Currently, there is a 99% renewal rate as well, so you'll be waiting for a few years if you want to be a season ticket holder.

http://sabres.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=569764
Counting this year I've already been on the list for 3 years and I'm still over #1000

According to Ted Black on WGR this morning the lockout only caused 30 or 31 (he wasn't completely sure) people to cancel their season tickets, so it's not as if the stoppage is accelerating that list at all.

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To give some numbers.

The First Niagara now holds 19,070 people for hockey games which means a total of 457,680 tickets for the 24 home games this year.

After season tickets were accounted for there were roughly 80,000 tickets left available to purchase, or about 3,333 per game

Additional seats went on sale to season ticket holders. I believe these were available for the same price per game as season tickets (so there was a slight discount, but not significant). In 24 hours they sold an additional 31,213.

Per Ted Black (team President) on WGR Monday morning that represented the same total as they have sold in the equivalent 2-day periods in the previous 3 seasons *combined*

Prior to mini-pack sales (Which opened Monday at 10AM), there were roughly 50,000 tickets available for the rest of the season, equaling roughly 2,000 average per game.

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Another point. Sabres added capacity this offseason. Around 500 seats. Now have over 19,000 capacity.
Yes and no. They went from 18690 to 19070 official, however Ted Black said they only added a couple seats. The big reason for the increase was just syncing the official manifest with the physical count.

Over the years there's been small changes in layout that changed the number of seats by never was reflected in the actual count. One such area was the new ticketed tables in the 200 level as well as the additional club they added last year (forget the name, but it's the one where you get to watch the players walk down the tunnel)

He did say there were a few new seats in the end-zone due to a new retractable seat configuration and they moved the medical crew to another area which freed up a couple seats, but actual physical additional seats was very small.


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http://audio.wgr550.com/a/69722064/1...?pageid=401026
http://audio.wgr550.com/a/69722589/1...?pageid=401026
http://audio.wgr550.com/a/69722588/1...?pageid=401026


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Great to see this...

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And then there was the traffic-jam forming Monday evening in front of the Sabres arena, the First Niagara Center. That’s where fans were preparing to attend Sabres practice, which the team opened to the public. By the time the puck dropped, nearly all of the lower bowl of the arena was filled with fans.
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The Sabres cap their season tickets at 15,400, leaving about 3,200 tickets available for each game. The team has a 3,000-person waiting list, and estimates it lost about 80 season-ticket holders since last summer.

“I think it’s one of the many affirmations that you continue to get that Buffalo is one of the premier hockey markets in North America, if not the world,” Black said. “Hockey runs so deep here at all levels, men, women, grandparents, people who have grown up with the game. It’s just part of everyone’s DNA.”
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And people wonder why the fans are taken for granted by this league. It is because fans seem to want it that way. I don't see how you can expect the league to show you any respect when you don't show yourself any.

The least people could do is act like they are reluctant to forgive them, but instead they rush out. There will be more labor stoppages in this sport, because the market never punishes them for doing it.

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And it's reasons like this that the owners knew they had nothing to fear from a lockout, and it'll be these same reasons why they have nothing to fear from initiating the 2021-22 lockout, too. Fans will just keep coming back like nothing happened, no matter how hard everybody huffs and puffs when no hockey's on.

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Great to see this...
As much as it's good news for the Sabres, it's as awful as it gets for us the fans. Next time NHL can do a 12 year lockout and they know we will beg them to let us see hockey again and pay record numbers for it.

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And people wonder why the fans are taken for granted by this league. It is because fans seem to want it that way. I don't see how you can expect the league to show you any respect when you don't show yourself any.

The least people could do is act like they are reluctant to forgive them, but instead they rush out. There will be more labor stoppages in this sport, because the market never punishes them for doing it.
And if the Buffalo fans didn't come out like this, people on here would be saying that they're not good fans and not a strong hockey market.

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And if the Buffalo fans didn't come out like this, people on here would be saying that they're not good fans and not a strong hockey market.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't sometimes on this site.
I wouldn't do that. I can't speak for others.

If tickets had gone on sale and NOBODY bought any, I would actually be praising the Buffalo market for showing some self respect. When I see reports of people swarming into practices, buying up tickets, buying up merchandise, they seem more like sheep than human beings.

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Well it's all in that article, the 99% renewal was a record, so as long as things stay good then yeah, good luck getting season tickets. I had originally thought the season tickets were capped at around 11k, but this says 15,200 tickets.
They expanded the totals each of the last few years. I know my ticket split went from a 10-pack to a full season this year as our name came up on the list. They also added seating, up to 19070 from 18690 by adding a row of club level seating. Sat up there yesterday and there is no change in sight-lines, just another 380 quality seats.

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