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Dipietro+2014 first rounder to Leafs for Mike Komisarek 3rd rounder(2014)
I'm curious to what the response to this trade would be if the leafs only gave the Islanders a minor league player, and the pick was 2015. That lets the Islanders fill in the room below the floor with players they want, and they could try to pick up some players to improve (along with their current prospects maturing another year), so the pick shouldn't be as low and wouldn't be in a draft that should be very strong.
Get past the fantasy, that the isles are giving the Leafs ANY first round pick or anything significant, to get rid of DiPietro.
Wang and Ratner are working to get the isles out of the current lease early and into Barclays. The press close to the team say the Skipper is not looking to buyout Gilligan.
If the Leafs want McDavid in 2015, they should tank for him<sarcasm>
only instance where a 1st was involved wad malakhov being traded from the devils to the sharks, sharks did get NJ 1st but the cap was 39 mil. 2nds were involved a couple times like the time flames gave us a 2nd to take wayne prieamu or shipped buffalo a 2nd to take kotalik as part of the regehr deal.
If the Leafs make that offer, the Islanders are quite likely to take it. But I doubt the Leafs would actually make that offer.
Islanders fans probably overstimate the finances of their team if they think that offer isn't attractive. The Islanders will want to stay close to the floor while still fielding the best team they can. The floor will be 44M, If you have Dipietro taking about 10%of that amount, it hurts a lot.
But the Leafs fan overestimate the financial clout of their team. Sure, the Leafs are rich, but come on, think about that offer for a moment.
Imagine Nonis going to the owners with that pitch:
-''Gentleman, for 24M we can buy ourselves the first pick of the Islanders!''
-''Ah. Hum. That is an interesting options.''
-''Yes, for what amounts to only 25% of our profit of 2011-12...''
-''Closer to 30%''
-''...For 30% of our profit our profit of 2011-12...''
-''But over half of those of this shortened season.''
-''Yes, for that, we can buy the 1st round pick of the Islanders!''
-''Okay. Who will that be. That Seth Jones kid everyone is talking about? Or that Mckinnon kid? A genuine superstar?''
-''Hopefully!''
-''Hopefully?''
-''Well, those kids are both at least top 3 and last year the Islanders drafted 4th. But yeah, we could get a top 3!''
-''Could? What are our odds?''
-''Pretty good!''
-''We can't end up paying 24M for worst than a top 5 pick, will we?''
-''Probably not! I mean, sure their kids are progressing and with a shorter season there is a higher volatility. Look at what we and Edmonto did in the first half of 2011-12. But really, the odds that the Islanders finish better than 20th...''
-''We could pay 24M and not even end up with a top 10?!''
-''Well, I guess...''
-''So you are selling me a 24M lottery ticket?!''
-''Uh...''
-''And that is more your side of thing but if we blow one of our buy out on a pick that does not pan out, or merely become a serviceable NHLer instead of a superstar, we are still left will left with less flexibility to buy out our own players if necessary.''
-''well... yes.''
-''You my friend have just had the shortest tenure for a GM in NHL history.''
24 Millions, guys. It's easy to make plans with somebody else's money, but I don't think even the Leafs pay 24 millions on a gambit.
If the Leafs make that offer, the Islanders are quite likely to take it. But I doubt the Leafs would actually make that offer.
Islanders fans probably overstimate the finances of their team if they think that offer isn't attractive. The Islanders will want to stay close to the floor while still fielding the best team they can. The floor will be 44M, If you have Dipietro taking about 10%of that amount, it hurts a lot.
But the Leafs fan overestimate the financial clout of their team. Sure, the Leafs are rich, but come on, think about that offer for a moment.
Imagine Nonis going to the owners with that pitch:
-''Gentleman, for 24M we can buy ourselves the first pick of the Islanders!''
-''Ah. Hum. That is an interesting options.''
-''Yes, for what amounts to only 25% of our profit of 2011-12...''
-''Closer to 30%''
-''...For 30% of our profit our profit of 2011-12...''
-''But over half of those of this shortened season.''
-''Yes, for that, we can buy the 1st round pick of the Islanders!''
-''Okay. Who will that be. That Seth Jones kid everyone is talking about? Or that Mckinnon kid? A genuine superstar?''
-''Hopefully!''
-''Hopefully?''
-''Well, those kids are both at least top 3 and last year the Islanders drafted 4th. But yeah, we could get a top 3!''
-''Could? What are our odds?''
-''Pretty good!''
-''We can't end up paying 24M for worst than a top 5 pick, will we?''
-''Probably not! I mean, sure their kids are progressing and with a shorter season there is a higher volatility. Look at what we and Edmonto did in the first half of 2011-12. But really, the odds that the Islanders finish better than 20th...''
-''We could pay 24M and not even end up with a top 10?!''
-''Well, I guess...''
-''So you are selling me a 24M lottery ticket?!''
-''Uh...''
-''And that is more your side of thing but if we blow one of our buy out on a pick that does not pan out, or merely become a serviceable NHLer instead of a superstar, we are still left will left with less flexibility to buy out our own players if necessary.''
-''well... yes.''
-''You my friend have just had the shortest tenure for a GM in NHL history.''
24 Millions, guys. It's easy to make plans with somebody else's money, but I don't think even the Leafs pay 24 millions on a gambit.
If the Leafs make that offer, the Islanders are quite likely to take it. But I doubt the Leafs would actually make that offer.
Islanders fans probably overstimate the finances of their team if they think that offer isn't attractive. The Islanders will want to stay close to the floor while still fielding the best team they can. The floor will be 44M, If you have Dipietro taking about 10%of that amount, it hurts a lot.
But the Leafs fan overestimate the financial clout of their team. Sure, the Leafs are rich, but come on, think about that offer for a moment.
Imagine Nonis going to the owners with that pitch:
-''Gentleman, for 24M we can buy ourselves the first pick of the Islanders!''
-''Ah. Hum. That is an interesting options.''
-''Yes, for what amounts to only 25% of our profit of 2011-12...''
-''Closer to 30%''
-''...For 30% of our profit our profit of 2011-12...''
-''But over half of those of this shortened season.''
-''Yes, for that, we can buy the 1st round pick of the Islanders!''
-''Okay. Who will that be. That Seth Jones kid everyone is talking about? Or that Mckinnon kid? A genuine superstar?''
-''Hopefully!''
-''Hopefully?''
-''Well, those kids are both at least top 3 and last year the Islanders drafted 4th. But yeah, we could get a top 3!''
-''Could? What are our odds?''
-''Pretty good!''
-''We can't end up paying 24M for worst than a top 5 pick, will we?''
-''Probably not! I mean, sure their kids are progressing and with a shorter season there is a higher volatility. Look at what we and Edmonto did in the first half of 2011-12. But really, the odds that the Islanders finish better than 20th...''
-''We could pay 24M and not even end up with a top 10?!''
-''Well, I guess...''
-''So you are selling me a 24M lottery ticket?!''
-''Uh...''
-''And that is more your side of thing but if we blow one of our buy out on a pick that does not pan out, or merely become a serviceable NHLer instead of a superstar, we are still left will left with less flexibility to buy out our own players if necessary.''
-''well... yes.''
-''You my friend have just had the shortest tenure for a GM in NHL history.''
24 Millions, guys. It's easy to make plans with somebody else's money, but I don't think even the Leafs pay 24 millions on a gambit.
IF that happened which it won't there is NO WAY we draft lower then 5th
Even if this offer was on the table from the Isles why the hell would MLSE ever agree to spend that much money on one pick.
They'd sell 24 million in MacKinnon jerseys the week he gets drafted. They want a face of the franchise? Not going to find one for much cheaper given how much free agents are going for lately.
dont get the point of this trade.. why would the Isles give up a 1st? Especially for Komisarek. If they really want to get rid of DiPietro that desperately, they'll amnesty him.
dont get the point of this trade.. why would the Isles give up a 1st? Especially for Komisarek. If they really want to get rid of DiPietro that desperately, they'll amnesty him.
It's a Leaf fan think that he is "helping" the lowly islanders.
i firmly believe the islanders are the worst team in the nhl. i think they should keep the first overall draft pick rather than package it for mike komisarek.
If I am not wrong, DiPietro gets paid by the insurance.
Doubt the Isles would ever do this deal, but in terms of insurance, I believe there is a limit on the term you can insure a contract for (something like 5 or 7 years). I am sure the Isles have collected a ton through insurance so far, but at some point it should theoretically stop.
i firmly believe the islanders are the worst team in the nhl. i think they should keep the first overall draft pick rather than package it for mike komisarek.
If Lubo plays and Streit stays healthy they won't be last in the league. Not at all.
Undoubtedly hoping that more people besides myself realize that this is for the 2014 first-rounder, not 2013.
Doesn't matter which yr. NYI fans don't want to move a first to be rid of DiPietro.
Let Wang take the buyout hit at $1.5m. He'll be in Brooklyn, with more revenue opportunites.
They'd sell 24 million in MacKinnon jerseys the week he gets drafted. They want a face of the franchise? Not going to find one for much cheaper given how much free agents are going for lately.
Is that a guarantee?
The Leafs have a higher chance of picking #1 with their own pick and those expensive free agents have also proven what they're capable of.
If the Leafs make that offer, the Islanders are quite likely to take it. But I doubt the Leafs would actually make that offer.
Sorry bud, but i couldnt disagree more. Snow has gone with a rebuild and has stockpiled up youth through picks. This season looks like it may be another rough one, and with kids like Jones, Mac and Drouin waiting to be drafted, were not giving that up for Komisarek and getting rid of DP. We still would have to pay Komisarek for this season and next. Its not worth it for the team to give away a top 5 pick(like toronto did for kessel) for mike komisarek and 16 million dollars.
The Isles are unlikely to buyout DP and at this point who really cares? He is not going impact the team from a cap perspective because it is unlikely that at this time they will come near the cap ceiling. Further, it is clear that they know that he will only play in what is likely to be less than 12 games a season before getting hurt, or being incapable of being a significant contributor. That is why they have cultivated Poulin and Nillsson... both of who may need a bit more time, but could become excellent NHL goalies.
For the Isles to give up a coveted 1st round pick for a #3-#4 defender makes little sense. Pass.
