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Dipietro+2014 first rounder to Leafs for Mike Komisarek 3rd rounder(2014)

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01-17-2013, 12:42 AM
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The Leafs do it running. They would now end up with two of Jones, McKinnon, or Drouin, who are all three exceptional...and can easily afford to buy out the albatross contract without cap hit.


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01-17-2013, 12:56 AM
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If the Leafs make that offer, the Islanders are quite likely to take it. But I doubt the Leafs would actually make that offer.

Islanders fans probably overstimate the finances of their team if they think that offer isn't attractive. The Islanders will want to stay close to the floor while still fielding the best team they can. The floor will be 44M, If you have Dipietro taking about 10%of that amount, it hurts a lot.

But the Leafs fan overestimate the financial clout of their team. Sure, the Leafs are rich, but come on, think about that offer for a moment.

Imagine Nonis going to the owners with that pitch:

-''Gentleman, for 24M we can buy ourselves the first pick of the Islanders!''
-''Ah. Hum. That is an interesting options.''
-''Yes, for what amounts to only 25% of our profit of 2011-12...''
-''Closer to 30%''
-''...For 30% of our profit our profit of 2011-12...''
-''But over half of those of this shortened season.''
-''Yes, for that, we can buy the 1st round pick of the Islanders!''
-''Okay. Who will that be. That Seth Jones kid everyone is talking about? Or that Mckinnon kid? A genuine superstar?''
-''Hopefully!''
-''Hopefully?''
-''Well, those kids are both at least top 3 and last year the Islanders drafted 4th. But yeah, we could get a top 3!''
-''Could? What are our odds?''
-''Pretty good!''
-''We can't end up paying 24M for worst than a top 5 pick, will we?''
-''Probably not! I mean, sure their kids are progressing and with a shorter season there is a higher volatility. Look at what we and Edmonto did in the first half of 2011-12. But really, the odds that the Islanders finish better than 20th...''
-''We could pay 24M and not even end up with a top 10?!''
-''Well, I guess...''
-''So you are selling me a 24M lottery ticket?!''
-''Uh...''
-''And that is more your side of thing but if we blow one of our buy out on a pick that does not pan out, or merely become a serviceable NHLer instead of a superstar, we are still left will left with less flexibility to buy out our own players if necessary.''
-''well... yes.''
-''You my friend have just had the shortest tenure for a GM in NHL history.''

24 Millions, guys. It's easy to make plans with somebody else's money, but I don't think even the Leafs pay 24 millions on a gambit.

This is spot on.

For those who think this is absolutely ridiculous, a deal like this will be made before this new CBA expires. Will such a deal be as significant as this proposal? Probably not, but trading assets for money will occur. I'd be willing to bet that Wang would gladly accept selling his first round pick for $24 million. That's A LOT of money.

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01-17-2013, 01:10 AM
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Wang can buy out DiPi in the summer, which he won't. Or Wang can allow him to keep playing until he has to retire due to injury, in which case insurance will cover his contract.

There are a lot better ways to get rid of DiPi than shipping our first round pick off with him.
On most contracts insurance runs out after the first seven years. Chances are not all of DiPietro's years are covered by insurance at some point that is coming out of Wang's pocket. A part of what the fight over term limits was about was this insurance coverage issue.

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01-17-2013, 07:35 AM
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On most contracts insurance runs out after the first seven years. Chances are not all of DiPietro's years are covered by insurance at some point that is coming out of Wang's pocket. A part of what the fight over term limits was about was this insurance coverage issue.
In that case, if Dipietro is a 'sports invalid' at some point (and he ain't far away), then Wang is simply off the hook.

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01-17-2013, 07:37 AM
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The Leafs do it running. They would now end up with two of Jones, McKinnon, or Drouin, who are all three exceptional...and can easily afford to buy out the albatross contract without cap hit.
It's a 2014 1st rounder , not 2013..

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01-17-2013, 07:55 AM
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It's a 2014 1st rounder , not 2013..
Why do Leaf fans keep repeating that?

The deal still sucks and NYI fans still aren't interested.

Leaf fans, your frustration because of the Kessel/Seguin/Hamilton exchange,is showing. You guys hoping to see your
team nab a high lottery pick from another team, while the Leafs make the playoffs. Ok, that's a nice dream scenerio for the Leafs.

Now, find some team that's interested because so far, not one credible source says the isles are.

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01-17-2013, 07:56 AM
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Islanders won't trade DiPietro, they need his salary to claw their way to the cap floor.

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01-17-2013, 07:57 AM
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On most contracts insurance runs out after the first seven years. Chances are not all of DiPietro's years are covered by insurance at some point that is coming out of Wang's pocket. A part of what the fight over term limits was about was this insurance coverage issue.
At some point, NYI fans are hoping Wang gets past the friendship angle and buys out RD.

Botta seems to think it'll never happen, so long as Wang owns the team.

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01-17-2013, 09:52 AM
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Islanders don't mind DiPi's salary as it allows them to reach the floor.
I still really don't understand this mentality. If I were GM you get people like this off your roster and you sign players that can contribute. If the Islanders want to start being taken seriously as a growing organization they need to get DiPietro's contract behind them. If teams wanted contracts like these to get above cap floor then you would see teams making trades for Redden, Gomez, Thomas, etc... that doesn't happen after its proven they are dead weight in light of their cap hit.

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01-17-2013, 10:14 AM
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Uh, yes they are.
Choosing to only spend to the cap floor =\= financial hardship... Even losing money on the Isles Wang has a ton of money

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01-17-2013, 10:20 AM
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WTF


I am at a loss for words for the OPs offer. Sorry..Ricky F and a first for one of the worst D-men in the league?

NYI can buy Ricky out with no cap hit


Why would NYI do this

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01-17-2013, 10:28 AM
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Leafs can then buy-out Dipietro with one of their amnesty buy-outs.
so could the NYI and keep the first rounder?

this trade makes no sense

Why wouuld the NYI give a first rounder to take on Komis contract
and please dont say they then buy him out

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01-17-2013, 10:38 AM
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One of the worst trade proposals in a long time

Isles gain nothing from this except a crap player and the loss of their pick. If they want to they buy out DP in the summer and not lose Seth Jones in the process...

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01-17-2013, 10:41 AM
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Everyone is forgetting the other part of the deal.

After the Leafs buy out dipietro Wang will just resign him to new deal.

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01-17-2013, 10:48 AM
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To take on Dipietro's contract, whether you're going to buy it out or not, the Islanders better come to the table with at least 2 first round picks.

People, money is still money. The Leafs are run like a business. They're not into just throwing large chunks of money away for a slight opportunity at an unknown commodity in 2014.

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01-17-2013, 11:26 AM
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To take on Dipietro's contract, whether you're going to buy it out or not, the Islanders better come to the table with at least 2 first round picks.

People, money is still money. The Leafs are run like a business. They're not into just throwing large chunks of money away for a slight opportunity at an unknown commodity in 2014.
Any team run like a business won't take on DP...

The Islanders will never trade him as long as Wang's in charge. They might buy him out and offer him a job in the organization.

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