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02-04-2013, 02:18 PM
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Element was 2 cars ago.

Fusion and now Xterra

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Hrm... I'll allow it. I rescind my comment.

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I think you're reading into the spot way too much and overplaying the religion part as if it were a political statement. Paul Harvey's delivery and wordsmithing matched with the vivid images had impact. That recording sounded like it was 40 years old. I'm surprised they didn't clean up the audio actually to remove the hiss but maybe that was intentional to be a throwback to the 'good ol days'.

I dunno, maybe it just hit a chord with me as my grandfather was a farmer who worked the fields. A simple, but demanding way to make a living. The original work from home job.

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After watching it again I think it's purely a shout out of respect for the hard working (hardest working truck in America?) farmer. The speech was given in 1978 at the FFA Convention (Future Farmers of America for those not familiar with that organization).
Consider the marketing thoughts that go into these commercials, particularly one debuted in the most coveted timeslot in all of television. They wouldn't have used a commercial with such overt Christian imagery and speech if they didn't think that it would resonate with their intended target. You're not going to see a Prius or a Civic commercial touch religion, even as an aside, because it simply doesn't fit that demographic precisely enough. The first 3 or 4 seconds of the ad was just a still shot of a church, then later on they show a family praying before dinner. It was a tug on the heartstrings regarding the hardworking American spirit - and I have no problem with that. If Dodge thought that their core audience wouldn't like the Christian themes, they would've found something else. In a time where a healthy chunk of that religious base is concerned about the shrinking role of god in schools/government/everywhere else, this was a nice way for Dodge to say "Don't worry, God still lives and breathes in the American spirit and our trucks."

I'm certainly over-analyzing it, but I do that with a lot of marketing/advertisements nowadays. It's certainly an effective ad for the intended audience, but looking at it analytically it is almost a parody. I guess it's better than one old truck commercial where they're tailing the truck, and then zoom underneath it and out to the front, getting a nice long phallic shot of a pipe on the undercarriage that takes up 80% of the screen.

The BEST ad from last night? This one, that Oreo put on Twitter and Facebook during the blackout. About as simple as it gets - a cookie and a gradient with some text. Whoever thought this up needs to get a raise.


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Element was 2 cars ago.

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Talk about a huge upgrade over the Element.

It's getting harder and harder to find real SUVs. Practically everyone's building on station wagon platforms and calling them "Crossovers" now.

No, I see what you did there, and I DO NOT WANT your glorified station wagon.

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Talk about a huge upgrade over the Element.

It's getting harder and harder to find real SUVs. Practically everyone's building on station wagon platforms and calling them "Crossovers" now.

No, I see what you did there, and I DO NOT WANT your glorified station wagon.
I previously had 2 different Toyota 4-Runners. The first was a lease (I was young and stupid) of a '95 model. That was the balls. Old-styling but rugged as hell and bullet proof in form and function and I wish I had purchased it and kept it. The next was a 2003 model I purchased but by then they updated the styling to fall in line with the Lexus crap with sleek lines and expensive looking trim. Still the same guts underneath but it felt less rugged. Both drove incredibly well and solid but you knew you were not in a car compared to the current SUV crossover market where you feel like you're driving a car but sit up high and begin to question if you could make it through a mud puddle if you had to in a pinch.

When I test drove the Xterra, I was expecting to fall short in every aspect to the 4-Runner being about 10k less sticker price and due to where it began with it's history of mechanical issues, less than impressive handling and so forth. I was shocked how much it felt like the 4-Runner in both quality, feel and handling. It definitely shows it's truck roots when not in 4 wheel drive with some rear tire spin on wet roads, but it kicks butt when you need to call on 4WD and has held up well to wear and tear thus far (2 1/2 years in). It certainly is a no-frills interior though with not even an aux port to connect an ipod let alone navigation and such so you're getting a dull but solid ride.

My next vehicle may be the FJ Cruiser. I really like those but they were not dealing on them last time I was in the market and I'm not paying full invoice for a vehicle.

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I previously had 2 different Toyota 4-Runners. The first was a lease (I was young and stupid) of a '95 model. That was the balls. Old-styling but rugged as hell and bullet proof in form and function and I wish I had purchased it and kept it. The next was a 2003 model I purchased but by then they updated the styling to fall in line with the Lexus crap with sleek lines and expensive looking trim. Still the same guts underneath but it felt less rugged. Both drove incredibly well and solid but you knew you were not in a car compared to the current SUV crossover market where you feel like you're driving a car but sit up high and begin to question if you could make it through a mud puddle if you had to in a pinch.
i have a '95 4runner myself. i love that thing, it was my sister's before mine and she hit anything and everything she could in it and never left a scratch. of course i get it and then back right into a pole and the back bumper is dented on the corner. doesn't matter though, that thing is a tank. flooded roads, gravel roads, it can go through them no problem. the road to my dorm is right next to where they're building a new student center, so i basically live in a construction zone right now and it has no problems going through the road filled with potholes, flooded and muddy every time it rains, and gravel and **** everywhere. and unlike most suvs today the thing can actually go off-roading too.

i had never driven an suv until i got this about a year ago, but i'm in love now. having to pay for a new tank of premium gas every 150 (can get more than that out of it if it's mostly on the highway though, but living in a city isn't conducive to that) miles sucks, but otherwise it's great.

i'm also thinking of the fj whenever this thing finally dies (probably not for another 5-8 years though), i love toyota and i love the looks of it and it seems like one of the truest holdovers to a real suv on the market these days. i like crossovers, but having a real suv is really convenient and doesn't make me feel like as much of a ****** as if i drove a truck around.

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A few reasons why I felt that the Farmer commercial was iffy:

1. Playing up the Hard Working American Farmer Spirit™ in an era when 99% of Ram owners will never step foot on a farm or haul something in their truck bigger than a 46" flat screen TV, or maybe a sofa if they help a friend move into a new place. Nothing screams Murica louder than the truck owner who uses it like a Corolla, which is sadly a large percentage of truck owners in this country.

2. I'm not a fan of companies endorsing a religion. I couldn't care less what individuals believe, but don't put it out there as an organizational endorsement. I don't suddenly think that Dodge deserves the backlash that Chik-Fil-A got, but I do think it's generally bad form for a business to use religion in their communications.

3. From a factual standpoint (and I know it's silly) - the idea of the farmer being created on the 8th day of creation is hilarious considering the lengthy reign of the hunter-gatherer.
The religious theme in that one turned me off too, but I'd probably never drive a Dodge Ram anyway.

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They signed this thing called the Constitution there too. Maybe you've heard of it?

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I knew I was forgetting something. There was a cashier in a super market there that was wearing a bright orange Carcillo jersey. Come on.

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i had never driven an suv until i got this about a year ago, but i'm in love now. having to pay for a new tank of premium gas every 150 (can get more than that out of it if it's mostly on the highway though, but living in a city isn't conducive to that) miles sucks, but otherwise it's great.
What in the....?

I drive a bigger SUV, and I go 360 miles between fill-ups. You're telling me you only get 9mpg? If so, there's something seriously wrong with the truck. A Hummer H2 gets 10 or 12mpg. And why are you filling it with premium octane?

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What in the....?

I drive a bigger SUV, and I go 360 miles between fill-ups. You're telling me you only get 9mpg? If so, there's something seriously wrong with the truck. A Hummer H2 gets 10 or 12mpg. And why are you filling it with premium octane?
150 was an exaggeration. i get more than that. also i have a fairly small tank for an suv. only holds about 12-13 gallons.

and premium is a must for older cars with big engines. makes everything last much, much longer and makes it run much cleaner.

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150 was an exaggeration. i get more than that. also i have a fairly small tank for an suv. only holds about 12-13 gallons.

and premium is a must for older cars with big engines. makes everything last much, much longer and makes it run much cleaner.
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