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01-16-2013, 01:00 PM
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New Defensively Minded Nazem Kadri

This is a discussion regarding Nazem Kadri's Defensive play and progress on the ice. All relevant defensive observations of his hockey IQ is to be discussed here.

This deserves a thread of its own, as many fans (as well as non-leafs fans) still cling to the fact that Naz is a defensive wreck, where he thinks the other side of the game as a second thought. Like all prospects, offence, defence and overall play improves with experience and coaching. For some odd reason, Naz is exempt from such a thought by many. It seems like he is still constantly being written up as an extremely weak defensive minded centre.

I can truly say that I have analysed his game through thick and thin, since game one. I've also followed his progression within the AHL unlike many others who preliminarily judge a player, and stick to it UNTIL the day comes where he finally blows up in the NHL and quiets down the Mudd talkers.


At this point, watch this clip from today's scrimmage. Click on "the Isolation on kadri clip" -> http://www.tout.com/m/woqhqw?ref=tw4sq4ly

Now before the mudd talkers come out with the excuse that this is solely one play, and only that, let me be the first to confirm that this is the new Kadri. Defensive minded plays have been a constant occurance for quite some time now in the A for Naz. For those who aren't educated with his progress, that is the main reason as to why he's been slotted in at C instead of wing going forward on the Marlies squad. There has been no experimenting of Naz playing Wing for quite some time now, and that is the reason.

You have full right to still believe he is incapable of playing a sound defensive game. Just know that for starters, Eakins disagrees with you, as do I.

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I wouldn't go this far, but yeah he's not the same old Kadri.

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Randy wasn't impressed with him in the second and third period as per presser

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Hat trick in the first period kind of set the bar high for the 2nd and 3rd dont ya think?

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Thanks tips. It was obviously in regards to his effort level or defensive play.

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Randy wasn't impressed with him in the second and third period as per presser
The kid is going to have to leap mountains in a single bound to make this team.

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Claude Loiselle was on tsn 1050 blue lunch and insinuated that Kadri will not be on the opening day roster.

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Goes to show that its easier to score on the Leafs than against another team.

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The kid is going to have to leap mountains in a single bound to make this team.
From the sounds of things, it was more of a "bring him down to earth" statement than criticism.

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I have no issue with Kadri being slotted at C due to lack of defensive responsibilities. He needs to show some heart and grit if he wants to make the team. I know he is a bit undersized but he should take a page out of Jeff O'Neil's book and learn how to become a feisty little *******

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Exactly.

Why would you give the kid the idea that he doesn't have to work the next two days?

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Claude Loiselle was on tsn 1050 blue lunch and insinuated that Kadri will not be on the opening day roster.
too many wingers ahead of him right now. He's an eventual Clarke MacArthur replacement. Once he's moved, Kadri can step in

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too many wingers ahead of him right now. He's an eventual Clarke MacArthur replacement. Once he's moved, Kadri can step in
Absolutely gross.

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to many forwards, kadri will be sent down , no matter what he does.
leafs will say he needs more work down there. same old.
he needs to get out of here, his old coach last year, hunter would of made him play, cause he is ready and can play.

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Absolutely gross.
Agreed.

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From the sounds of things, it was more of a "bring him down to earth" statement than criticism.
why here only in toronto , do we put down our prospects, coaches, managers etc

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to many forwards, kadri will be sent down , no matter what he does.
leafs will say he needs more work down there. same old.
he needs to get out of here, his old coach last year, hunter would of made him play, cause he is ready and can play.
**** that ****. Trade MacArthur, Connolly or Lombardi who don't do much of anything, put him in place and watch him learn and improve where it matters. This nonsense is just getting tedious. It's not like we have Jere Lehtinen, John Madden and Mike Peca in their primes here in terms of excellent defensive play and leadership that we can't live without.

Also he's been playing since October and you're going to put a bunch of cold Lombardi/Connolly characters in the lineup.

Makes me wonder how many years a guy like Steven Stamkos would have been buried in Toronto given our Barry Melrose-like attitude about playing young guys.


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**** that ****. Trade MacArthur, Connolly or Lombardi who don't do much of anything, put him in place and watch him learn and improve where it matters. This nonsense is just getting tedious. It's not like we have Jere Lehtinen, John Madden and Mike Peca in their primes here in terms of excellent defensive play and leadership that we can't live without.
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to many forwards, kadri will be sent down , no matter what he does.
leafs will say he needs more work down there. same old.
he needs to get out of here, his old coach last year, hunter would of made him play, cause he is ready and can play.
Great message it sends to young players. "Yeah, you've come into camp and played terrific and earned yourself a spot, but since that spot is already reserved to someone less deserving, you're going back down the the minors."

I hope it isn't Lombardi taking his spot. Kadri has earned the chance to show his stuff in the big show, if there isn't room you have to make room for him.

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Macarthur's the new scapegoat for no reason at all, he set Grabovski up for 75-80% of his goals last year and consistently scores 20 goals no problem.

On the topic of Kadri, I think Carlyle is just being tough on him because he doesn't want him to get lazy. What probably happened is Kadri had a great first period, then he started getting lazy defensively which Carlyle obviously wouldn't let stand.

Carlyle definitely sees the potential there, he just needs to see Kadri bring it 100% for an entire game.

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Claude Loiselle was on tsn 1050 blue lunch and insinuated that Kadri will not be on the opening day roster.
Wth? What did he say

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too many wingers ahead of him right now. He's an eventual Clarke MacArthur replacement. Once he's moved, Kadri can step in
Kadri is head and shoulders better than Bozak.

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The guy's just a softish, completely unremarkable modest producer all losing clubs have. He's like a Tyler Arnason or a Mike York.

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They could be protecting Kadri. I'd much rather him be in a winning environment with the Marlies than miss the playoffs with the Leafs. I am sure management agrees with the majority of Leaf fans (based on the playoff poll), that the Leafs aren't good enough to make the playoffs. Next year he will be a lock imo.

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Kadri is head and shoulders better than Bozak.
I'd rather have Kadri in the middle as well if he can make a commitment to be defensively responsible. I like the idea of having skilled speedy 2-way centers and size on the wings (Bruins model)

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