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01-14-2013, 05:01 AM
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Tim Connolly

I noticed teams needing centers this year like Phoenix and Vancouver.

What would you give up for 1 year(4.75M prorated) of Tim Connolly.

He had 36 points in 70 games.

We have Bozak Grabs McClemment and Steckel with Kadri possibly making the jump. Im not sure where Connolly fits in Toronto.

Anyone willing to give up a 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder? Will he fetch that at the deadline?

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soon to be UFA with a LONG history of injury problems and who is a slow starter--also his stats over the past 4 years have gotten worse. For the PTS his puts up if he was a third line grinder it would be okay

only a team that is needing to get to the floor would want him

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soon to be UFA with a LONG history of injury problems and who is a slow starter--also his stats over the past 4 years have gotten worse. For the PTS his puts up if he was a third line grinder it would be okay

only a team that is needing to get to the floor would want him

Connolly is a known PK'er even from his time in Buffalo.

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You couldn't pay us to take him.

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I noticed teams needing centers this year like Phoenix and Vancouver.

What would you give up for 1 year(4.75M prorated) of Tim Connolly.

He had 36 points in 70 games.

We have Bozak Grabs McClemment and Steckel with Kadri possibly making the jump. Im not sure where Connolly fits in Toronto.

Anyone willing to give up a 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder? Will he fetch that at the deadline?
How about a 5th rounder? Maybe a 4th but its got to be conditional.

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I noticed teams needing centers this year like Phoenix and Vancouver.

What would you give up for 1 year(4.75M prorated) of Tim Connolly.

He had 36 points in 70 games.

We have Bozak Grabs McClemment and Steckel with Kadri possibly making the jump. Im not sure where Connolly fits in Toronto.

Anyone willing to give up a 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder? Will he fetch that at the deadline?
7th rounder. But only if at least a 3rd is coming back with Connolly.

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I tried but I can't think of one team that would want this guy.

His cap hit is at least twice what it should be and he usually ends up injured.

His stats aren't what they need to be, I could see him getting a chance to prove himself again in the AHL after this contract is over, but I don't see any team wanting him for their NHL team for this season.

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A broken hockey stick and that's only if Toronto pays half his cap hit.

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A broken hockey stick and that's only if Toronto pays half his cap hit.
Who pays the shipping of the broken stick?

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Who pays the shipping of the broken stick?
Toronto has to drive to buffalo and pick it up themselves......also drop connoly off at the arena.

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I think Toronto has to wait for teams to start getting desperate, and also hopefully for Connolly to have a decent start and up his value.

Right now, Connolly is probably only worth something like a ~5th round pick. In late March? Assuming he plays reasonably well, he could be worth as high as a 2nd. People overpay towards the deadline, that's just the way it is.

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I think Toronto has to wait for teams to start getting desperate, and also hopefully for Connolly to have a decent start and up his value.

Right now, Connolly is probably only worth something like a ~5th round pick. In late March? Assuming he plays reasonably well, he could be worth as high as a 2nd. People overpay towards the deadline, that's just the way it is.
As a sabres fan I can tell you that Connoly will be hurt by then and lose whatever minimal value he had.

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I think Toronto has to wait for teams to start getting desperate, and also hopefully for Connolly to have a decent start and up his value.

Right now, Connolly is probably only worth something like a ~5th round pick. In late March? Assuming he plays reasonably well, he could be worth as high as a 2nd. People overpay towards the deadline, that's just the way it is.
True. Leafs could trade him for a 2nd then flip that 2nd along with 2013 1st, Gardiner and Kadri for Luongo, at the deadline.

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As a sabres fan I can tell you that Connoly will be hurt by then and lose whatever minimal value he had.
Maybe, but his value can't go down a whole lot. So may as well roll the dice and see if he can improve his stock.

Last year for example, he started off the year with something like 22 points in 28 games. A similar start would give him decent trade value in a deadline scenario.

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As a sabres fan I can tell you that Connoly will be hurt by then and lose whatever minimal value he had.
Injury prone guys are exactly what you look for entering the grind that is the playoffs.

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I think Toronto has to wait for teams to start getting desperate, and also hopefully for Connolly to have a decent start and up his value.

Right now, Connolly is probably only worth something like a ~5th round pick. In late March? Assuming he plays reasonably well, he could be worth as high as a 2nd. People overpay towards the deadline, that's just the way it is.
Toronto doesn't have to do anything. Right now Tyler Bozak is slotted in as the team's #1 Centre, they need Tim Connolly in the context of plan b, and if a draft pick is all they're going to get, then they might as well keep him as that.

Now, if a team was prepared to part with a guy who would be a top 4 shutdown dman for us... or a goaltender, then of course he'd be put on the table. However, until somebody becomes available that actually addresses an immediate need for the Leafs, or Bozak makes Connolly totally redundant, he's going nowhere.

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Toronto doesn't have to do anything. Right now Tyler Bozak is slotted in as the team's #1 Centre, they need Tim Connolly in the context of plan b, and if a draft pick is all they're going to get, then they might as well keep him as that.

Now, if a team was prepared to part with a guy who would be a top 4 shutdown dman for us... or a goaltender, then of course he'd be put on the table. However, until somebody becomes available that actually addresses an immediate need for the Leafs, or Bozak makes Connolly totally redundant, he's going nowhere.
It's that type of thinking that caused the Maple Leafs to only make 29 draft selections over the last 4 years, which is only ONE more than default (7X4). Pretty pathetic for a rebuilding team.

What exactly would we be holding onto him for? For a playoff run? LOL. That's actually hilarious. Selling guys like Connolly is the type of thing that gives you the draft flexibility to draft a top goalie prospect for example. Something that would have been nice had it been done 4-5 years ago.

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It's that type of thinking that caused the Maple Leafs to only make 29 draft selections over the last 4 years, which is only ONE more than default (7X4). Pretty pathetic for a rebuilding team.

What exactly would we be holding onto him for? For a playoff run? LOL. That's actually hilarious. Selling guys like Connolly is the type of thing that gives you the draft flexibility to draft a top goalie prospect for example. Something that would have been nice had it been done 4-5 years ago.
It's your type of thinking that perpetuates a culture of losing that has infected Toronto.

Yes, we're holding onto him to increase our chances of a playoff run. The Leafs need to eradicate that culture, and they need to do it now. If Tyler Bozak has a bad year, or the Leafs realize that they need size (JvR) opposite Phil Kessel, Tim Connolly could slide quite easily onto our 1st line. The guy is a proven point producer, with the caveat that he's playing with somebody who can finish.

We pre-emptively drop him from our lineup for what? a mid-round draft pick? I think not. If the return is a pick/prospect, you wait until the deadline to make a determination as that is when picks/prospects are undervalued relative to immediate talent. If it's something that can help our team immediately, then it's certainly something to look at right now.

Had it been done 4 or 5 years ago? You might have a case, but the Leafs need to win, and need to win now.

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I tried but I can't think of one team that would want this guy.

His cap hit is at least twice what it should be and he usually ends up injured.

His stats aren't what they need to be, I could see him getting a chance to prove himself again in the AHL after this contract is over, but I don't see any team wanting him for their NHL team for this season.
His cap hit doesn't really mean jack all when he's a UFA after this season. What's that extra cap going to do anyways? Play backup G? You guys act like cap space is its own statistical category.

Connolly's really not even that bad. He's a decent defensive 3C that can chip in half a point per game. I think he'd be a decent fit in SJS.

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It's your type of thinking that perpetuates a culture of losing that has infected Toronto.

Yes, we're holding onto him to increase our chances of a playoff run. The Leafs need to eradicate that culture, and they need to do it now. If Tyler Bozak has a bad year, or the Leafs realize that they need size (JvR) opposite Phil Kessel, Tim Connolly could slide quite easily onto our 1st line. The guy is a proven point producer, with the caveat that he's playing with somebody who can finish.
Considering the team has never tried to build through the draft, and has actually followed your philosophy of continually "going for it" despite never having the pieces to do so, I think it's safe to say that your philosophy has led to this team being the biggest loser in literally the entire league since the lockout

There is a time to hold onto your pending Free Agents and try and make a playoff run, but this is not it.

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Considering the team has never tried to build through the draft, and has actually followed your philosophy of continually "going for it" despite never having the pieces to do so, I think it's safe to say that your philosophy has led to this team being the biggest loser in literally the entire league since the lockout

There is a time to hold onto your pending Free Agents and try and make a playoff run, but this is not it.
Which one?

(Sorry, no offense intended, but it was just begging to be said.) LOL

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A broken hockey stick and that's only if Toronto pays half his cap hit.
Broken hockey stick is more durable. Just saying . . .

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It's your type of thinking that perpetuates a culture of losing that has infected Toronto.

Yes, we're holding onto him to increase our chances of a playoff run. The Leafs need to eradicate that culture, and they need to do it now. If Tyler Bozak has a bad year, or the Leafs realize that they need size (JvR) opposite Phil Kessel, Tim Connolly could slide quite easily onto our 1st line. The guy is a proven point producer, with the caveat that he's playing with somebody who can finish.

We pre-emptively drop him from our lineup for what? a mid-round draft pick? I think not. If the return is a pick/prospect, you wait until the deadline to make a determination as that is when picks/prospects are undervalued relative to immediate talent. If it's something that can help our team immediately, then it's certainly something to look at right now.

Had it been done 4 or 5 years ago? You might have a case, but the Leafs need to win, and need to win now.
Wait, i thought you guys were rebuilding.

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As a Phoenix fan I'd go as high as Goncharov and a 3rd, but only if Toronto is willing to retain AT LEAST a million and a half.

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His value is pretty much non existent. Maybe gets you Luongo with a 2nd thrown in.

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