HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Toronto Maple Leafs
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

12'/13' Draft Thread: Something, Something... SETH JONES!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-03-2013, 07:17 AM
  #701
ULF_55
Global Moderator
 
ULF_55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Mountain Standard Ti
Posts: 62,736
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ErnieLeafs View Post
While being nearly a calender year younger than when Olli accomplished those feats.

The man-child is for real.
Interesting that:

Oct. 3, 1994 versus Sep. 1, 1995

We all saw at the WJC how a year can make a huge difference. Americans were mostly an older team. Galchenyuk and Sieloff being a couple of the few younger players.

__________________
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14...cording-forbes

The New York Rangers are the most valuable NHL franchise at $1.2 billion, taking the top spot on the Forbes list for the first time since 2004.

The magazine said Tuesday that Montreal is second at $1.18 billion, followed by Toronto at $1.15 billion.
ULF_55 is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 09:56 AM
  #702
Hick Leafs Fan
HickTown
 
Hick Leafs Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,119
vCash: 500
Hey guys, im one of those fans who want a top 6 pick or the playoffs.....say we get a top 6 pick can you list the players you'd want.......and could you give a comparable of each player....thanks a lot.

Hick Leafs Fan is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:01 AM
  #703
ULF_55
Global Moderator
 
ULF_55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Mountain Standard Ti
Posts: 62,736
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeafsFan10 View Post
Hey guys, im one of those fans who want a top 6 pick or the playoffs.....say we get a top 6 pick can you list the players you'd want.......and could you give a comparable of each player....thanks a lot.
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9841

Give this a browse.

I don't think the Leafs are bad enough, and if Reimer continues to play like he did last night, they won't be top 10 in the draft.

ULF_55 is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:06 AM
  #704
Hick Leafs Fan
HickTown
 
Hick Leafs Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,119
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ULF_55 View Post
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9841

Give this a browse.

I don't think the Leafs are bad enough, and if Reimer continues to play like he did last night, they won't be top 10 in the draft.

Thanks
yeah thats my thinking as well.....but with the injuries and all the good teams doing bad (philly, nyr etc.) i think we might have chance...i want a top 6 pick more than Playoffs lol

Hick Leafs Fan is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:17 AM
  #705
Pi
Registered User
 
Pi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 32,422
vCash: 50
If we're picking 11-20.

1) Ryan Pulock
2) Nurse
3) Gauthier. 6'5'' center....

"An imposing centre who can play any situation in the game. Very smart and his awareness is excellent both with and without the puck. Can control the game from the centre ice position in multiple ways. Is very difficult to handle offensively and equally difficult to break down defensively. Has very good skating and puck skills and really understands how to play to his strengths for the benefit of the team. Has shown the ability to raise his level of play at critical times and is a very competitive player."

That sounds pretty darn great. Does anyone think he could go top 10?

Pi is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:25 AM
  #706
Lebanese Leaf
Registered User
 
Lebanese Leaf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Country: Lebanon
Posts: 6,834
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pi View Post
If we're picking 11-20.

1) Ryan Pulock
2) Nurse
3) Gauthier. 6'5'' center....

"An imposing centre who can play any situation in the game. Very smart and his awareness is excellent both with and without the puck. Can control the game from the centre ice position in multiple ways. Is very difficult to handle offensively and equally difficult to break down defensively. Has very good skating and puck skills and really understands how to play to his strengths for the benefit of the team. Has shown the ability to raise his level of play at critical times and is a very competitive player."

That sounds pretty darn great. Does anyone think he could go top 10?
I just fear he's another Colborne, a big C who's perpetually "about to put it together offensively" but never does...

Lebanese Leaf is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:56 AM
  #707
topched
Registered User
 
topched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,676
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lebanese Leaf View Post
I just fear he's another Colborne, a big C who's perpetually "about to put it together offensively" but never does...
They're not that comparable imo. Colborne was drafted out of the AJHL... hadn't played any jr or college hockey.

Gauthier reminds me a bit of Radek Faksa. Same size, and producing at about the same clip in the CHL. Most people were loving Faksa at this time last year.

topched is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:59 AM
  #708
VanW27
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: halifax,n.s.
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,354
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pi View Post
If we're picking 11-20.

3) Gauthier. 6'5'' center....


That sounds pretty darn great. Does anyone think he could go top 10?
I think he goes right around 10. I don't know enough about him to properley evaluate him, but to the person comparing him to Colborne, one very big difference is, although listed at nearly identical ht/wt Joe looks like a big kid. While Gauthier looks more physically developed already, despite being 5? years younger.


Last edited by VanW27: 02-03-2013 at 12:34 PM.
VanW27 is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 12:31 PM
  #709
The Winter Soldier
Registered User
 
The Winter Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Country: China
Posts: 42,406
vCash: 500
Seth Jones another 2 assists last night and +1, nearing a PPG this year. +33 on the year

Puluck had 5 assists last night, +3 after not doing much for a long stretch.

The Winter Soldier is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 01:28 PM
  #710
TMLife
Auston Matthews
 
TMLife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,977
vCash: 500
The good news is worst case scenario we miss the playoffs and draft 14th where players like nurse, Erne, domi and many many more will still be there. Has anyone seen this wennberg kid before?

TMLife is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 01:37 PM
  #711
Sundinisagod
the best
 
Sundinisagod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Zagreb
Country: Croatia
Posts: 10,934
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeafsFan10 View Post
Hey guys, im one of those fans who want a top 6 pick or the playoffs.....say we get a top 6 pick can you list the players you'd want.......and could you give a comparable of each player....thanks a lot.
1) Jones: Rob Blake
2) Mackinnon: Crosby's playing style but Taylor Hall/Tyler Seguin talent level
3) Drouin: Giroux
4) Barkov: Sundin
5) Linholm: Backstrom
6) Monahan: Brad Richards??

Sundinisagod is online now  
Old
02-03-2013, 01:42 PM
  #712
Sundinisagod
the best
 
Sundinisagod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Zagreb
Country: Croatia
Posts: 10,934
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Interactif View Post
Seth Jones another 2 assists last night and +1, nearing a PPG this year. +33 on the year

Puluck had 5 assists last night, +3 after not doing much for a long stretch.
Pulock, on paper at least, would make a very nice partner for Rielly...good consolation prize after the top 6.

Sundinisagod is online now  
Old
02-03-2013, 02:01 PM
  #713
Riellyfan04
Registered User
 
Riellyfan04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Toronto On
Country: Albania
Posts: 2,731
vCash: 500
anything in the top 8 would be awesome for leafs! solid draft! and at least we know Nonis wont trade our pick for trash so we gonna get a solid prospect!

Riellyfan04 is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 02:09 PM
  #714
Epictetus
Moderator
YNWA
 
Epictetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,238
vCash: 150
I see something like (these are not necessarily my top 6):

1) Jones: A more high-end and consistent Tyler Myers.
2) Mackinnon: A more complete Marian Gaborik, however, less ceberal in his finishing.
3) Drouin: A better and more polished Sam Gagner.
4) Barkov: I see some Anze Kopitar in him.
5) Lindholm: I do see some Backstrom in him.
6) Monahan: Cody Hodgson 2.0.

Epictetus is online now  
Old
02-03-2013, 02:28 PM
  #715
Guy Boucher
Registered User
 
Guy Boucher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,865
vCash: 404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epictetus View Post
I see something like (these are not necessarily my top 6):

1) Jones: A more high-end and consistent Tyler Myers.
2) Mackinnon: A more complete Marian Gaborik, however, less ceberal in his finishing.
3) Drouin: A better and more polished Sam Gagner.
4) Barkov: I see some Anze Kopitar in him.
5) Lindholm: I do see some Backstrom in him.
6) Monahan: Cody Hodgson 2.0.
I'd like to know which world this is wherein Monohan resembles Cody Hodgson and Drouin looks like Sam Gagner? These are the worst comparisons I've seen.

And MacKinnon looks nothing like Gaborik...

Guy Boucher is online now  
Old
02-03-2013, 02:49 PM
  #716
Riellyfan04
Registered User
 
Riellyfan04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Toronto On
Country: Albania
Posts: 2,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epictetus View Post
I see something like (these are not necessarily my top 6):

1) Jones: A more high-end and consistent Tyler Myers.
2) Mackinnon: A more complete Marian Gaborik, however, less ceberal in his finishing.
3) Drouin: A better and more polished Sam Gagner.
4) Barkov: I see some Anze Kopitar in him.
5) Lindholm: I do see some Backstrom in him.
6) Monahan: Cody Hodgson 2.0.
lol those are terrible comp.....Mac is nothing like Gaborik....Gaborik is a sniper and Mac is an all around player who can finish and also play solid defensively..

Riellyfan04 is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 02:51 PM
  #717
Pi
Registered User
 
Pi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 32,422
vCash: 50
I think players will drop. As long as we are in the top 10, we might even get a guy like Lindholm.

Forsberg was ranked high but every team wanted D...so he fell.

Pi is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 03:09 PM
  #718
Kamal007
FEEL LIKE PABLO
 
Kamal007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,137
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundinisagod View Post
Pulock, on paper at least, would make a very nice partner for Rielly...good consolation prize after the top 6.
Not to mention, a HARDCORE Leaf fan.

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Wh...741/story.html

Doesn't hurt.

Kamal007 is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 03:23 PM
  #719
Epictetus
Moderator
YNWA
 
Epictetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,238
vCash: 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafs03 View Post
lol those are terrible comp.....Mac is nothing like Gaborik....Gaborik is a sniper and Mac is an all around player who can finish and also play solid defensively..
Both have games built off high-end speed, which is the primary attribute in which they have to utilize to be successful players.

Gaborik is not a sniper; he is a scorer. There is a difference. His goals are built off breakaway speed and this is how MacKinnon will score many of goals.

I've already admitted MacKinnon is more complete. This is also part of his appeal for going high in this deep draft.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy Boucher View Post
I'd like to know which world this is wherein Monohan resembles Cody Hodgson and Drouin looks like Sam Gagner? These are the worst comparisons I've seen.

And MacKinnon looks nothing like Gaborik...
I can't really believe I have to explain the first two, but here goes...

Monahan is a good player, but not a great player. He possesses no elite skills or talent, and therefore has to overcompensate on intangibles and leadership and possibly grit. Cody Hodgson is the same way.

Sam Gagner is very much like Drouin. I think you are seriously confused here because of how the Oilers ruined him as a player. He was a tremendous talent in junior and was incredibly skillful, much like Drouin is.

And for the last comparison, see above.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeenSchenn2 View Post
I see Monahan more as a Mike Richards.
I don't think he's that physical.

Epictetus is online now  
Old
02-03-2013, 03:24 PM
  #720
SeenSchenn2
Itchin' For Mitch
 
SeenSchenn2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Thornhill, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,543
vCash: 500
I see Monahan more as a Mike Richards.

SeenSchenn2 is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 03:41 PM
  #721
The Winter Soldier
Registered User
 
The Winter Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Country: China
Posts: 42,406
vCash: 500
Justin Bailey with his best game statswise yet, 2 goals 2 assists, +4 this afternoon.

This kid is just starting to show his pedigree.

The Winter Soldier is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 07:56 PM
  #722
theIceWookie
#LeafHysteriaAlert
 
theIceWookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 8,610
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Interactif View Post
Justin Bailey with his best game statswise yet, 2 goals 2 assists, +4 this afternoon.

This kid is just starting to show his pedigree.
Explain pedigree to me...

theIceWookie is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 08:01 PM
  #723
The Winter Soldier
Registered User
 
The Winter Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Country: China
Posts: 42,406
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFinnishKulemin View Post
Explain pedigree to me...
Justin is the son of Carlton Bailey, ex NFL Bills player. He was also coached by Pat Lafontaine and mentored by Matthew Barnaby. He's had good influences as a young man.

The Winter Soldier is offline  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:11 PM
  #724
Guy Boucher
Registered User
 
Guy Boucher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,865
vCash: 404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epictetus View Post
Both have games built off high-end speed, which is the primary attribute in which they have to utilize to be successful players.

Gaborik is not a sniper; he is a scorer. There is a difference. His goals are built off breakaway speed and this is how MacKinnon will score many of goals.

I've already admitted MacKinnon is more complete. This is also part of his appeal for going high in this deep draft.



I can't really believe I have to explain the first two, but here goes...

Monahan is a good player, but not a great player. He possesses no elite skills or talent, and therefore has to overcompensate on intangibles and leadership and possibly grit. Cody Hodgson is the same way.

Sam Gagner is very much like Drouin. I think you are seriously confused here because of how the Oilers ruined him as a player. He was a tremendous talent in junior and was incredibly skillful, much like Drouin is.

And for the last comparison, see above.



I don't think he's that physical.
If you don't think Monahan has grit then you haven't seen him play.

And while I realize Drouin and Gagner share soft hands, that hardly makes them good comparables. They see and play the game incredibly different.

Guy Boucher is online now  
Old
02-03-2013, 10:31 PM
  #725
topched
Registered User
 
topched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,676
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epictetus View Post
I see something like (these are not necessarily my top 6):

1) Jones: A more high-end and consistent Tyler Myers.
2) Mackinnon: A more complete Marian Gaborik, however, less ceberal in his finishing.
3) Drouin: A better and more polished Sam Gagner.
4) Barkov: I see some Anze Kopitar in him.
5) Lindholm: I do see some Backstrom in him.
6) Monahan: Cody Hodgson 2.0.
1) Jones is WAY more physical than Tyler Myers. Myers is rangy and uses his stick and body to move people off the puck, SJ punishes guys. Way tougher down low as well. Offensively maybe they have the same output, but thats where it ends.

2) Gaborik isn't even a C, he's a winger. Brutal comparison. What does "less cerebral in his finishing" mean? Are you trying to say he's "less creative?"... if so check out LM highlight reel.

3) Better and more polished Sam Gagner? So you mean like Claude Giroux? Or any of the countless other better versions of Sam Gagner? Thats like saying Henrik Ludqvist is a better more polished James Reimer. Whats the point of the comparison?

4) This one I can agree with.

5) This one I can agree with too. (although haven't seen much of him)

6) You can't compare Monahan to Cody Hodgson. Hodgson hasn't even hit his potential yet. I like Lecavalier as a comparison myself, Staal is similar. He's slightly smaller than both those guys, but lots of time to grow.

topched is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2016 All Rights Reserved.