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Maple Leafs waive Tim Connolly

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01-17-2013, 11:05 AM
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Keith Aucoin is now an Islander, so take him off the list.

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Not great?
Probably the weakest group of centers in the NHL.
Lol why do Van fans jump on the leafs roster in every single thread. They seem intent on convincing us we need Lu to protect our horrible forwards.

Meanwhile after Sedin, with Kesler out, that might be the worst group of centers.

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Yep pretty much.
I guess no Aucoin now so that leaves you? McKegg?

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I could really see Van picking him up. Would be a cheap option and he can still produce more than Gomez.
He would be a good stop gap for a month or so until Kesler gets back if he was paid half his salary. We're right up against the cap though so I don't see a fit.

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I guess no Aucoin now so that leaves you? McKegg?
or Colborne.

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01-17-2013, 11:06 AM
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Lol why do Van fans jump on the leafs roster in every single thread. They seem intent on convincing us we need Lu to protect our horrible forwards.

Meanwhile after Sedin, with Kessel out, that might be the worst group of centers.
The ironing is delicious.

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Lol why do Van fans jump on the leafs roster in every single thread. They seem intent on convincing us we need Lu to protect our horrible forwards.

Meanwhile after Sedin, with Kessel out, that might be the worst group of centers.
I wasn't actually ripping your team, I was just trying to figure out the move. C is the position you have the least depth at right now, especially now that Aucoin is gone. Play or buyout you are still stuck with the cap, unless they heard some team wanted him.

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Not with that contract, it's worse than Lui's


Sooooo the Leafs are going to go with:

Grab
Bozak
McClement
Steckl

and Aucoin if someone gets hurt? Who's after that Colborne at your C position?
Kadri can play center. RC also mentioned JVR potentially playing center in case of injury.

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The ironing is delicious.
lol typo so you focus on that instead of the fact that our center depth after sedin is indeed probably one of the worst in the league right now

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The ironing is delicious.
Kesler* is that your response? You seem quick to criticize our depth when Vans center depth is putrid.

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It will be interesting to see if anyone claims him at 100%. It will also be interesting to see what the Leafs can get for a 50% pro rated Connolly. Toronto really took the new CBA rules to heart right off the bat.
Aren't you only allowed to retain salary on 2 contracts?
If so, I'd rather save it for future deals unless the return was a 3rd rounder or higher.
I doubt any team gives that up so just put Connolly on re-entry waivers and get nothing.
Or we could keep him in the minors in case of our players get injured or blow chunks.
The difference in cap hit doesn't really affect us this year: 3.85 in the minors or 2.375 on re-entry.

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From the perspective that the "amnesty buy-out's" still count 100% (less the $900K credit) against the salary cap this year, because TC's contract is up at the end of the year, there is NO benefit to the utilizing an amnesty buy-out on him. They'd be better off moving him and keeping half the cap hit & salary, which would still save them $1.5+ of cap space, as well as some real cash. If there's no takers - send him to the Marlies. That would be the same cap and salary implications as buying him out, and wouldn't take use one of the Leafs amnesty buy-outs.

TC is different from Redden or Gomez that they were told to go home because the team was afraid they would get hurt prior to the amnesty guy out period and they both had salary committed to them after this year. That's not the case with Connelly.

From my perspective - TOR has the ability to trade for a bad contract on a budget teams that doesn't have the $'s to spend for a compliance buy-out, and add an asset (how good an asset depending on how big the $ buy out is).

The Leafs don't really have any bad contracts where term and caphit becomes a handicap for the team. Is Connolly serviceable at his caphit? No, he's not but that's not why he's being waived. He's being waived because there are younger, cheaper options that may lack experience but removing him from the roster gives the youth the opportunity to actually to gain that experience they currently lack. It's not like the team has many options for buyouts and is wasting one here and maybe because the team isn't in a position where they have bad contracts to sort through, they're able to waive Connolly and give him the opportunity to play in the NHL rather than bury him in the minors - which by the way, he has a modified NTC so it's possible that it's not even at the discretion of the organization to demote him without his permission.

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lol typo so you focus on that instead of the fact that our center depth after sedin is indeed probably one of the worst in the league right now
Sedin, Lapierre and Malhotra is fine. Schroeder/Ebbett or whomever will be our second line center in name only until Kelser gets back. Not great but only temporary.

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01-17-2013, 11:11 AM
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Lol why do Van fans jump on the leafs roster in every single thread. They seem intent on convincing us we need Lu to protect our horrible forwards.

Meanwhile after Sedin, with Kesler out, that might be the worst group of centers.
Because deep down they know without the Leafs there chances if moving Luongo are zilch. They know they can get the most from us in a trade so they're trying to convince us and at the same time convincing themselves that the situation is not as bad as it is.

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01-17-2013, 11:12 AM
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Until they figure out that no one is going to give up much for Luongo they'll continue with this. They hijack every Leaf thread, it's pathetic.

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01-17-2013, 11:13 AM
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Aren't you only allowed to retain salary on 2 contracts?
If so, I'd rather save it for future deals unless the return was a 3rd rounder or higher.
I doubt any team gives that up so just put Connolly on re-entry waivers and get nothing.
Or we could keep him in the minors in case of our players get injured or blow chunks.
The difference in cap hit doesn't really affect us this year: 3.85 in the minors or 2.375 on re-entry.
If I'm not mistaken, retaining/trading salary and cap is not a transitional clause but now a standard policy that is allowed between all 30 teams. However, I'm pretty sure there is a maximum amount of cap space and salary that can be traded each season. This shouldn't affect the Leafs ability to make deals like this every season if they wanted to - they only have to make sure they work within the confines of the maximum allowed.

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This is entirely a roster move (as well as the Lombardi trade). Frattin loses his waiver exemption soon so they want him up. They also need to know what Kadri can do once and for all.

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Sedin, Lapierre and Malhotra is fine. Schroeder/Ebbett or whomever will be our second line center in name only until Kelser gets back. Not great but only temporary.
lol not great..

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Thank you God. What a great move. Don't need Connolly on this team anymore, Kadri/Frattin are ready.

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01-17-2013, 11:15 AM
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Sedin, Lapierre and Malhotra is fine. Schroeder/Ebbett or whomever will be our second line center in name only until Kelser gets back. Not great but only temporary.
yeah a 1st line center, two 4th line centers and a center that at this point is barely nhl-calibre is definitely "fine" depth

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I'm shocked they couldn't get anything for him. I know he's had his problems but I'm shocked no one would take him if Toronto kept some of his salary. I imagine he will get claimed though. Probably the islanders, they claim everyone.

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Until they figure out that no one is going to give up much for Luongo they'll continue with this. They hijack every Leaf thread, it's pathetic.
Exactly. This is PURELY a roster move to give young players a chance to make the team after getting rid of overpaid players.

Luongo will come to the Leafs if and only if Gillis gigantic asking price is reduced drastically.

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but but how are the Leafs gonna trade him for Stastny now?

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but but how are the Leafs gonna trade him for Stastny now?
It's okay, we'll give you Franson, 6th round pick and MAYBE...only if you ask politely, Komisarek.

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but but how are the Leafs gonna trade him for Stastny now?
We still have Jesse Blacker, Bozak and a 3rd.

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