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01-17-2013, 03:47 PM
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One is a rookie, one is not
Right i should probably read the entire thread.. lol

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01-17-2013, 03:49 PM
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No clue why Sens fans are being so confident here... We all love Silf because we've seen him play 30 good games. Foligno has done was Silf did in the AHL last year, plus he outproduced him in the NHL. Foligno definitely over-performed, but I see no reason why Silf has a big advantage. Silf will probably get between 4th-7th most minutes for fwds, Foligno will be 5th-7th. We all point to Silf starting with Michalek and Spezza, but that's been far from guaranteed production for others in the past. I think both will get around 25 pts.

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01-17-2013, 04:02 PM
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Also, Foligno can make professional hockey players lose their damn minds. (It's Komi, I grant you but...)


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01-17-2013, 06:03 PM
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Silfverberg is becoming one of the most overrated players in hfboards, my god.

Silfverberg will have better linemates so I'd say him, but I wouldn't say AINEC
Everyone pay attention to this guy. He's watched an ample amount of silfverberg. If there's anyone to listen to, it's this guy. What was your name again? Va...si..leyski...listen to that guy.

All joking aside, what makes you so qualified to judge that this player is being over or under rated?

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01-17-2013, 06:04 PM
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You don't play a guy in his first NHL game in game 6 and 7 of the playoffs if he isn't a major prospect.

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01-17-2013, 06:10 PM
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define "better"

I think silf will put up better offensive numbers and finish higher in ROY voting (pretending that foligno is a rookie), if that's what you're asking.

But foligno will probably have a bigger impact on his team.

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01-17-2013, 06:11 PM
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Silfverberg might put up a few more points. Foligno will definitely destroy a lot more people. Completely different players, but I will take Marcus because he brings more to the table. But this is a homer vote, I'd be pumped to have Silfverberg on my team.

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01-17-2013, 06:27 PM
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I don't know how anybody could say Silfverberg and it's not even close. Or that Silverberg is on a whole other level. Their AHL stats are nearly identical. The difference between the two right now is that Foligno has already actually produced in the NHL while Silfverberg hasn't. Feel free to pick Silfverberg, but it's not even close? It's definitely close.

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define "better"

I think silf will put up better offensive numbers and finish higher in ROY voting (pretending that foligno is a rookie), if that's what you're asking.

But foligno will probably have a bigger impact on his team.
What's that supposed to mean? Foligno is a rookie. He's only played 14 NHL games.

Anyway...Foligno for me. He's not an offensive dynamo on his own, but alongside a skilled center, he can certainly produce, and he's shown as much in both the AHL and the NHL. He's also physically a beast, and I think his contributions are going to be really important this year if Buffalo's going to have success.

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01-17-2013, 06:49 PM
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Foligno was really good for Buffalo. cant take anything away from him.
Silvf is amazing too, dominated sweden last season and seems to get NA hockey. he should have the same impact.

in the end i think Foligno will be better, but Silf will show what the hype is all about too.

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01-17-2013, 07:20 PM
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You don't play a guy in his first NHL game in game 6 and 7 of the playoffs if he isn't a major prospect.
Sens org wouldn't know a high end prospect if he was slapping them in the face with a Norris trophy.

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Also, Foligno can make professional hockey players lose their damn minds. (It's Komi, I grant you but...)

Most fun I had at a game last season...

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Silfverberg might put up a few more points. Foligno will definitely destroy a lot more people. Completely different players, but I will take Marcus because he brings more to the table. But this is a homer vote, I'd be pumped to have Silfverberg on my team.
What more does foligno bring to the table?

Silfverberg scores points so he must be one dimensional. Foligno hits people, so he must have other intangible qualities and meaner facial hair potential.

Silfverberg captained a championship team and plays his end of the ice as well or better than offense. He was automatic in the shoot out last year. Pretty sure the only lagging part of his game is physicality but we already have stars like greening, smith and Neil to change every shift with a hit. He isn't afraid of contact

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01-17-2013, 07:43 PM
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After a slow start in the ahl he really got comfortable with NA ice/style and the results where there. And is the SEL not a pro league anymore? He did pretty well over there too. Playoff MVP, season MVP. Captain of the Championship team.
Yeah, I think he was being facetious

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01-17-2013, 09:48 PM
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Foligno was ahead of Silfverberg on Dregers list but Hf says it isnt close, hmm

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01-18-2013, 02:07 AM
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Silfverberg, but only because he has the cooler name.

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01-18-2013, 02:53 AM
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I have to SMH at some of the early posts here

If we use this and the rundblad, heck most Sens threads and it's clear that there is more homerism in display than Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver combined

at least in the HFBoards community

if anything it should be Foligno and it's not even close if we want to go there

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01-18-2013, 07:16 AM
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If Silfverberg the has chemistry with Spezza and stays on the first line, I'd give the edge to him but otherwise it's either a draw or advantage Foligno.

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What more does foligno bring to the table?

Silfverberg scores points so he must be one dimensional. Foligno hits people, so he must have other intangible qualities and meaner facial hair potential.

Silfverberg captained a championship team and plays his end of the ice as well or better than offense. He was automatic in the shoot out last year. Pretty sure the only lagging part of his game is physicality but we already have stars like greening, smith and Neil to change every shift with a hit. He isn't afraid of contact
What does Foligno bring to the table that Silfverberg doesn't? A physical presence. An ability to play anywhere in the lineup from line 1 to line 4. An ability to play PP or PK. An ability to create room for skilled players like Ennis, and protect them if anyone takes liberties. Foligno is a total package. He brings more to the table than Silfverberg right now.

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01-18-2013, 11:50 AM
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What does Foligno bring to the table that Silfverberg doesn't? A physical presence. An ability to play anywhere in the lineup from line 1 to line 4. An ability to play PP or PK. An ability to create room for skilled players like Ennis, and protect them if anyone takes liberties. Foligno is a total package. He brings more to the table than Silfverberg right now.
Silfverberg can play on any line, the Sens wanted him last season to play on the 3rd line. Silfverberg also played PK on a Swedish League Championship team and has been known for his PKing since he was drafted. Silfverberg's offense surpassed his defensive play maybe last season. Foligno is more physical but everything else you have said indicates that you simply have not seen Silfverberg play, and that is very very funny and also very disingenuous.

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Silfverberg can play on any line, the Sens wanted him last season to play on the 3rd line. Silfverberg also played PK on a Swedish League Championship team and has been known for his PKing since he was drafted. Silfverberg's offense surpassed his defensive play maybe last season. Foligno is more physical but everything else you have said indicates that you simply have not seen Silfverberg play, and that is very very funny and also very disingenuous.
Don't kid yourself, Silverberg is top 6 or bust in the NHL.

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Don't kid yourself, Silverberg is top 6 or bust in the NHL.
You literally have no clue what you are talking about child. I actually feel embarrassed for you.

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Don't kid yourself, Silverberg is top 6 or bust in the NHL.
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Can someone please explain to me the hype about Silfverberg?

Sens fans think he's a better prospect than Zibanejad. Yes he's won that playoff MVP but even Zuccarello won that one.

What's the big deal about his play? Who does he compare to?

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Can someone please explain to me the hype about Silfverberg?

Sens fans think he's a better prospect than Zibanejad. Yes he's won that playoff MVP but even Zuccarello won that one.

What's the big deal about his play? Who does he compare to?
He was NHL ready last year, he can play on any of the top 3 lines, he has probably the best wrister on the team, he's exceptionally smart, he has very few tangible flaws in his game (a bit with skating)... I'd compare him to a slightly more offensive Jere Lehtinen.

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