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Avs vs Blues: Who has the better group of forwards?

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Avs 73 34.76%
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01-17-2013, 05:52 PM
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Most definitely the Blues.

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01-17-2013, 06:00 PM
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Blues, and its not very close...

great mix of skill and grit, with some playoff experience

Avs have good skill, but not very deep

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01-17-2013, 06:32 PM
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Oh ya I knew i was forgetting someone on the Avs, put RoR in.

The scary thing with the Avs is that they have 7 top 6 forwards (RoR can fill in on a top 6 role) even Hejduk can jump in the top 6 from time to time if anyone gets injured.
And the Blues have 9 top-6 forwards...with D'Agostini capable of filling in if need be.

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01-17-2013, 06:50 PM
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I'd say the Avs currently have 8 top 6 forwards, with Hejduk being a fringe guy. The key difference between the teams, imo, is that the Avs are very young and seem to have more upside. If O'Reilly comes back (and players continue to develop) I'd take the Avs. If not, the Blues.

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01-17-2013, 06:57 PM
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I'd say the Avs currently have 8 top 6 forwards, with Hejduk being a fringe guy. The key difference between the teams, imo, is that the Avs are very young and seem to have more upside. If O'Reilly comes back (and players continue to develop) I'd take the Avs. If not, the Blues.
Blues are super young, too

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01-17-2013, 07:20 PM
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Blues are super young, too

The Blues took a big step last year finishing 1 game out of the Presidents trophy. And that's with a horrible start before Hitch took over. I think the Blues just scratched the surface last year with their talent too. Perron, AMac and Steen missed large parts of the year. They are ridiculously young and are adding Tarasenko and Schwartz this year, with Jaskin and Rattie soon to follow.

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01-17-2013, 07:23 PM
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In terms of value on the trade market Colorado by a country mile.

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01-17-2013, 07:32 PM
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In terms of value on the trade market Colorado by a country mile.
With Armstrong contracts?! Please expand...because all I can think is David Backes, TJ Oshie, David Perron, and Alex Steen for 16mil

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01-17-2013, 08:03 PM
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I think the top 6 are close but the bottom six put the Blues over the Avs.

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01-17-2013, 08:15 PM
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Why does everyone think ROR is some magical demi-god? He had one decent season playing with Gabriel Landeskog. Once Landeskog starts playing with Duchene, and ROR starts playing with third liners like he's supposed to, he's going to go back to being a 30 point player (max) who can play good defense. You know, your typical third line center...
Cute.



One decent season? That tells me you only look at the stats page, and have never watched O'Reilly. He entered the league as an 18 year old, put up 26 points, played very well defensively, with horrible linemates. That was a great season. Tell me, how many 18 year old 2nd round draft picks enter the NHL, put up almost 30 points, play with guys like Tucker and McLeod? Oh, and as a rookie, he was 2nd among all Avs forwards in PK time. If you actually watched him, you'd know how great he was. If you read hockeydb...well, its clear how you formed your ignorant opinion.



Calling last season just decent is laughable. 55 points, great defensively, leading the league in takeaways? Yeah, just decent. Oh, did I mention he was 21? Oh, and clearly Landeskog is the only reason O'Reilly did that O'Reilly can't have helped Landeskog or anything. I'm sure since you said so, at 21, O'Reilly will regress back to a 30 point center and never reach anything close to 50 points again. 21 year old great defensively centers, coming off a 55 point season, usually have reached their max potential, then regress as soon as a 50 point player is taken off their line.




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01-17-2013, 08:37 PM
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In terms of value on the trade market Colorado by a country mile.
lol what?

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01-17-2013, 08:41 PM
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lol what?
Didn't you know that's how you win hockey games? Theoretical trade market value that's not even accurate.

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01-17-2013, 09:18 PM
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Blues top 6 is equal to Avs, but Blues bottom 6 destroys Avs

so Blues

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01-17-2013, 09:21 PM
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centers: Colorado

winger talent: St.louis

Winger depth: debatable

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01-17-2013, 10:12 PM
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How do their D's and G's stack up?

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01-17-2013, 10:32 PM
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Avs have far better top end talent.

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01-17-2013, 10:36 PM
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Avs for me solely because of Landeskog. If I had him on my team and the Blues offered me any 6 forwards on their team in a straight up trade I would hang up the phone laughing.

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01-17-2013, 10:43 PM
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Avs for me solely because of Landeskog. If I had him on my team and the Blues offered me any 6 forwards on their team in a straight up trade I would hang up the phone laughing.

It's safe to say you'll never be a GM.

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01-17-2013, 10:56 PM
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Avs for me solely because of Landeskog. If I had him on my team and the Blues offered me any 6 forwards on their team in a straight up trade I would hang up the phone laughing.
Edit- Misunderstood what was said my b


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01-17-2013, 11:01 PM
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The OP didn't even include Schwartz. The Blues have the better depth, they have 11-12 forwards that could easily be top-9 guys on most teams.

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01-17-2013, 11:05 PM
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I homer voted the Avs but realistically its probably the Blues

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01-17-2013, 11:09 PM
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I think the top 6 are close but the bottom six put the Blues over the Avs.
I am of the belief top end talent has the most value and simple fact is the AVs have more top end talent(mainly because they drafted top 3 two times in the past few years)

Blues may have a stronger bottom 6 but simple fact is it's much easier getting bottom 6 talent then top 6 talent

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01-17-2013, 11:10 PM
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Avs have far better top end talent.
We'll see. I think Tarasenko could be a stud as soon as this season.
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Avs for me solely because of Landeskog. If I had him on my team and the Blues offered me any 6 forwards on their team in a straight up trade I would hang up the phone laughing.
In terms of right now, Landeskog isn't better than Backes, nevermind Backes/Oshie/Perron/Tarasenko/Mac/Steen.

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01-18-2013, 12:14 AM
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And that might be one of the most ludicrous things I've read on this site
Oh? Do explain. Backes might certainly be better than Landeskog now, but we still wouldn't trade Landeskog for any of the Blues forwards. The other guy was completely right when he said that. He means way to much to our franchise. If you don't understand that then it is you who deserves to be laughed at. I mean, MacDonald, no, Perron, his career high is the same as Landeskogs, he is 24, and I feel Landeskog brings more to the table than he does, so no, I think Taresenko will be great, but I would not trade Landeskog for someone who has done nothing in the NHL, so no, Steen, no, Oshie, never broken 20 goals in his career, his career high in points is 4 more than Landeskog, and he is 26. No. Backes....he is an incredible player. Probably my favorite non Avalanche, but considering Landeskog is 19, was just named our captain, and his potential, I would not trade Landeskog for him.


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01-18-2013, 12:26 AM
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In terms of right now, Landeskog isn't better than Backes, nevermind Backes/Oshie/Perron/Tarasenko/Mac/Steen.
Who cares about right now? If I had a team I wouldn't trade Landeskog for any 6 Blues forwards. I think the guy is that good and going to be one of the most complete forwards in the game for the rest of his career. Backes is a helluva player, but c'mon, he isn't in the same stratosphere as Landeskog in terms of possible ceilings imo. Oshie, Perron, Mac, Steen? LOL, give me a break. No one would trade a potential 10 year captain and perenial allstar like Landeskog for a handful of solid 2nd and 3rd liners. Tarasenko is a nice prospect, no doubt, but I already know Landeskog is the real deal.

Nope, I stand by my statement. Guys like Landeskog don't come around very often and when you get one, you hang onto him at all costs.

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