Yes, through a 2-game stretch, Turris does look like a future number 1 center. And yes, through a 2-game stretch, Turris is easily one of, if not the best player so far this year. I can't wait for the NHL to hand out the "2-Game Stretch Hart Trophy", because Turris has an incredible shot at winning it!!!
Daniel Winnik >>> Crosby IMO
calm down. he hasn't said Turris is a number one center. he said he's looking like one so far. also, i'm pretty sure he means the best player on the Sens.
Yes, through a 2-game stretch, Turris does look like a future number 1 center. And yes, through a 2-game stretch, Turris is easily one of, if not the best player so far this year. I can't wait for the NHL to hand out the "2-Game Stretch Hart Trophy", because Turris has an incredible shot at winning it!!!
Daniel Winnik >>> Crosby IMO
I meant on the Sens
And yeah Turris was on the team last year too smart ass.
Yes, through a 2-game stretch, Turris does look like a future number 1 center. And yes, through a 2-game stretch, Turris is easily one of, if not the best player so far this year. I can't wait for the NHL to hand out the "2-Game Stretch Hart Trophy", because Turris has an incredible shot at winning it!!!
Daniel Winnik >>> Crosby IMO
Oh come on, when Turris is a significantly better player season by season (which will start this season) are you going to look back on this and wonder about your reasoning?
Turris's on-ice awareness in terms of fitting into the play but also playing defence has been fantastic even going back to last season. This year he's bigger and faster and seems to be able to impose himself more on the game. I dunno, just watch him play. He looks like he could develop into a Kesler-esque player.
To this point you have to say Gagner has had the better career. I guess all I can say is that it wouldn't surprise me if after this season we can start justifying Turris as the better player. But it will be about consistency with him, as it was last year.
The results of this poll are ridiculous.
Kyle Turris has not done a damn thing to warrant being placed above Gagner. Gagner while flawed has been a significantly better NHL player. I don't know how anyone can vote for Turris, nothing backs it up except "potential" or pure homerism
The results of this poll are ridiculous.
Kyle Turris has not done a damn thing to warrant being placed above Gagner. Gagner while flawed has been a significantly better NHL player. I don't know how anyone can vote for Turris, nothing backs it up except "potential" or pure homerism
Your right, none of us know what the **** we are talking about. We all just should have asked you in a private message what the proper answer to this poll is and you could have saved us all a lot of time.
The results of this poll are ridiculous.
Kyle Turris has not done a damn thing to warrant being placed above Gagner. Gagner while flawed has been a significantly better NHL player. I don't know how anyone can vote for Turris, nothing backs it up except "potential" or pure homerism
It's who will have a better season. It's fair to think either.
It's all opinion. To me, reason I pick Turris is because of the huge incline he's had over the last year in his style of play and his point production. While Gagner has been fairly consistent, and I don't see a huge change in his play, like that of Turris. So I personally feel Turris has a huge opportunity that he's never had, and this is his year to peak.
The results of this poll are ridiculous.
Kyle Turris has not done a damn thing to warrant being placed above Gagner. Gagner while flawed has been a significantly better NHL player. I don't know how anyone can vote for Turris, nothing backs it up except "potential" or pure homerism
The poll asks who do you think will have a bigger impact on their teams. Turris had a pretty big impact on the sens since going there. Also he is now playing a bigger roll than last season with added time on the pk.
I think Gagner will have the edge in points this season but I wouldnt mind trading Sam for Turris. Turris seems be getting better where as Gagner has leveled off.
The results of this poll are ridiculous.
Kyle Turris has not done a damn thing to warrant being placed above Gagner. Gagner while flawed has been a significantly better NHL player. I don't know how anyone can vote for Turris, nothing backs it up except "potential" or pure homerism
maybe because some of us have seen both play and recognize who will have the most impact to their respective team this season.
The results of this poll are ridiculous.
Kyle Turris has not done a damn thing to warrant being placed above Gagner. Gagner while flawed has been a significantly better NHL player. I don't know how anyone can vote for Turris, nothing backs it up except "potential" or pure homerism
Another poster who has failed to understand the OP question. If the question were who has scored more points in their career then Gagner would win. Potential needs to be taken into consideration when comparing 22 year olds about to start a season, it would be ridiculous to ignore potential from either player.
Turris is expected to be one of the Sens top offensive threats while also maintaining good defensive play including time on the PK. With the talent on the Oilers I don't see Gagner making as big of an impact.
Oh come on, when Turris is a significantly better player season by season (which will start this season) are you going to look back on this and wonder about your reasoning?
I just find it hilarious that it's so concrete that Turris is (without a doubt in your mind, it looks like) going to become significantly better every season. I'm not seeing the history in Turris' career that points towards a player becoming significantly better, every season.
And to anyone that thinks I'm trolling, I would love to see Turris become a significant player for the Sens. I just find it ridiculous that a player that I would compare to Sam Gagner is being proclaimed as a future #1 center, especially a team with Jason Spezza at the helm. You're not going to be a playoff team with players like Sam Gagner/Kyle Turris at #1 C.
And if you do think I'm out to lunch here, please enlighten me as to what Kyle Turris has done over the last 5 years that points towards a player becoming a #1 NHL center.
Turris is expected to be one of the Sens top offensive threats while also maintaining good defensive play including time on the PK. With the talent on the Oilers I don't see Gagner making as big of an impact.
You mean the same Sam Gagner centering Ales Hemsky and Nail Yakupov on the Oilers 2nd line? Yeah, I don't see anybody making an impact offensively with those linemates....
You mean the same Sam Gagner centering Ales Hemsky and Nail Yakupov on the Oilers 2nd line? Yeah, I don't see anybody making an impact offensively with those linemates....
I understand he will benefit from having good line mates and anyone who plays in a game will have an impact (positive or negative).
What I'm saying is that Gagner will be relied on much less by the Oilers than the Sens will on Turris. This isn't a discussion about who will score more points.
IMO, Turris will play a bigger role on his team than Gagner, thus having a bigger impact.
The real reason he's likely to do better now is they've addressed some issues in his core musculature (hips, ass, etc) which has him skating not only with greater explosiveness (he's flying), he skates with better balance. For a player of his ability, which borders on top line quality, to address those issues makes a big difference. It's pretty easy to see the difference in his skating.
When the sens brought him in, without hesitation they said he's a 2nd line C now and could be better. Tim Murray has said maybe a 1st line center, the 30 goal mark has been tossed out as a goal for him. But they emphasised they needed to work with him in the gym.
Give it another off season or two and I can see why we may think he could be that type of player.
The real reason he's likely to do better now is they've addressed some issues in his core musculature (hips, ass, etc) which has him skating not only with greater explosiveness (he's flying), he skates with better balance. For a player of his ability, which borders on top line quality, to address those issues makes a big difference. It's pretty easy to see the difference in his skating.
When the sens brought him in, without hesitation they said he's a 2nd line C now and could be better. Tim Murray has said maybe a 1st line center, the 30 goal mark has been tossed out as a goal for him. But they emphasised they needed to work with him in the gym.
Give it another off season or two and I can see why we may think he could be that type of player.
Yeah his skating has improved this year.
He doesn't really have a flaw in his game. If everything goes right, 30 goals is a good number.
Gagner doesn't really compare to that kind of player^
This seems like a bit of **** bait. It`s really close so far, but I went with Turris here, mostly because if he doesn`t eventually end up better than Gagner, they are both huge letdowns, so whatever should I care.
while that young 23 year old "number 1 center, Ovechkin @ center" is about to break out
