ATD Baseball NL Rd 3: (1)Crawfords vs. (4)Cubs

Modo · 04-22-2013, 04:25 PM

Pittsburgh Crawfords

Manager: John McGraw

Position Players	Pitchers	Lineup
C: Josh Gibson	SP1: Satchel Paige (R)	1. Frankie Frisch (S)
1B: Buck Leonard	SP2: Jim Palmer (R)	2. Wade Boggs (L)
2B: Frankie Frisch	SP3: Billy Pierce (L)	3. Josh Gibson (R)
3B: Wade Boggs	SP4: Eddie Cicotte (R)	4. Reggie Jackson (L)
SS: Lou Boudreau	SP5: Jim McCormick (R)	5. Al Simmons (R)
LF: Al Simmons	Long1: J.R. Richard (R)	6. Buck Leonard (L)
CF: Cristobal Torriente	Mid1: Johnny Murphy (R)	7. Cristobal Torriente (L)
RF: Reggie Jackson	Mid2: Tom Burgmeier (L)	8. Lou Boudreau (R)
Bench: King Kelly - C/RF	Short1: Todd Worrell (R)	9. Pitcher's Spot
Bench: Bill Dahlen - SS	Short2: Darold Knowles (L)
Bench: Minnie Minoso - LF/CF/3B	Closer: Rollie Fingers (R)
Bench: Mule Suttles - 1B/LF
Bench: Jimmy Wynn - CF
Bench: Larry Doyle - 2B

Chicago Cubs

Manager: Walter Alston

Lineup	Batting Order	Bench	Starting Rotation	Bullpen
C: Louis Santop	1. Carlos Beltran	1. Sadaharu Oh	1. Pedro Martinez	1. Troy Percival
1B: Albert Pujols	2. Craig Biggio	2. Bert Campaneris	2. Roy Halladay	2. Keith Foulke
2B: Craig Biggio	3. Barry Bonds	3. Evan Longoria	3. Don Drysdale	3. Dan Plesac
3B: David Wright	4. Albert Pujols	4. Bobby Abreu	4. Early Wynn	4. Sean Marshall
SS: Luke Appling	5. Louis Santop	5. Mike Trout	5. Eppa Rixey	5. Scott Linebrink
LF: Barry Bonds	6. Dwight Evans			6. Bob Howry
CF: Carlos Beltran	7. David Wright			7. Tim Lincecum
RF: Dwight Evans	8. Luke Appling

MurrayBannerman · 04-22-2013, 05:53 PM

Since my series ended in 4 games, Pedro pitched twice, but there's rest inbetween. Would he be able to go in game 2 or 3?

darko · 04-22-2013, 06:28 PM

Upset alert!!!

MurrayBannerman · 04-23-2013, 12:49 AM

Stats Against Opponents
Pedo Martinez vs Wade Boggs
.273/.285/.273, 2 2B, 4 Ks, 13 PA

Luke Appling vs Satchel Paige
.375/.412/.375, 1 RBI, 17 PA

Barry Bonds vs Todd Worrell
.385/.529/.615, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 4 BB, 17 PA

MurrayBannerman · 04-23-2013, 01:18 AM

I think I matchup very well here. The Crawfords have a ton of speed in their lineup, but to counteract that, I have one of the better catching arms around in Santop. Their lineup is very balanced, but I have two, good, left handed options out of the pen to play matchups with. Their lineup can't match my immediate offensive output of Bonds-Pujols-Oh against righties, which make up 4/5 of his rotation. Even with Wright against lefties poses a problem with his .335/.431/.572 slash them. They've also got a problem with Jim Palmer. He was notoriously a HEAVY fastball pitcher, so much so that his former catcher Elrod Hendricks said the he'd throw it about 85-90% of the time. That's really playing into my strength as my lineup, especially the 3-4-5 he'll face.

Managing might be the smallest of margins in favor of the Crawfords, but I generally think Alston and McGraw is a wash.

Alston - 2040-1613, 7 Pennants, 4 WS titles

Post Season Statistics

Lineup vs RHP
Beltran (S) -.363/.470/.782, 14 HR, 25 RBI, 10 2B, 11 SB, 34 G
Biggio - .234/.295/.323, 2 HR, 11 RBI, 9 2B, 2 SB, 40 G
Bonds (L) - .245/.433/.503, 9 HR, 24 RBI, 9 SB, 8 2B, 2 3B, 52 BB, 48 G
Pujols - .330/.439/.607, 18 HR, 52 RBI, 1 SB, 18 2B, 1 3B, 74 G
Oh (L) - Played in Japan (Career Statistics)
Evans - .239/.333/.425, 4 HR, 19 RBI, 7 2B, 1 3B, 32 G
Santop (L) - Played in the Negro Leagues (Bio and Stats)
Appling - Never played in the postseason

Lineup vs LHP
Beltran (S) -.363/.470/.782, 14 HR, 25 RBI, 10 2B, 11 SB, 34 G
Biggio - .234/.295/.323, 2 HR, 11 RBI, 9 2B, 2 SB, 40 G
Bonds (L) - .245/.433/.503, 9 HR, 24 RBI, 9 SB, 8 2B, 2 3B, 52 BB, 48 G
Pujols - .330/.439/.607, 18 HR, 52 RBI, 1 SB, 18 2B, 1 3B, 74 G
Santop (L) - Played in the Negro Leagues (Bio and Stats)
Wright - .216/.310/.378, 1 HR, 6 RBI, 3 2B, 10 G
Evans - .239/.333/.425, 4 HR, 19 RBI, 7 2B, 1 3B, 32 G
Appling - Never played in the postseason

Bench
Oh/Wright
Campaneris - .243/.290/.347, 6 SB, 11 RBI, 3 HR, 1 3B, 4 2B, 37 G
Longoria - .194/.255/.490, 8 HR, 18 RBI, 1 SB, 5 2B, 25 G
Abreu - .284/.392/.418, 1 HR, 9 RBI, 2 SB, 6 2B, 20 G
Trout - Never played in postseason

Rotation
Halladay - 3-2, 2.37 ERA, 35 Ks, 5 BB, 0.737 WHIP, 5 Starts
Drysdale - 3-3, 2.95 ERA, 36 Ks, 12 BB, 1.210 WHIP, 6 Starts
Martinez - 6-4, 3.46 ERA, 96 Ks, 30 BB, 1.080 WHIP, 14 Starts
Rixey (L) - 0-1. 4.05 ERA, 0.900 WHIP, 2 Ks, 2 BB, 1 G

Bullpen
Percival - 2.79 ERA, 7 SV, 10 Ks, 1 BB, 0.931 WHIP, 9 G
Foulke - 2.53 ERA, 3 SV, 24 Ks, 12 BB, 1.266 WHIP, 16 G
Lincecum- 5-2, 2.47 ERA, 63 Ks, 14 BB, 0.878 WHIP, 12 G
Howry - 1.59 ERA, 10 Ks, 2 BB, 0.882 WHIP, 2 G
Linebrink - 2.70 ERA, 2 Ks, 2 BB, 1.800 WHIP, 4 G
Marshall (L) - 1.23 ERA, 8 Ks, 1 BB, 0.409 WHIP, 5 G
Plesac (L) - 1 G, 54 ERA
Wynn - 1-2, 4.95 ERA, 1.450 WHIP, 15 K, 6 BB, 4 G

Pwnasaurus · 04-23-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman

Stats Against Opponents
Pedo Martinez vs Wade Boggs
.273/.285/.273, 2 2B, 4 Ks, 13 PA

Those at-bats took place when Boggs was aged 39-41 years old. I should get the Boggs in his prime I hope.

Pwnasaurus · 04-23-2013, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman

Stats Against Opponents

Barry Bonds vs Todd Worrell
.385/.529/.615, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 4 BB, 17 PA

There would be no reason I see to ever let Worrell face Bonds as a matchup right hander.

Pwnasaurus · 04-23-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman

They've also got a problem with Jim Palmer. He was notoriously a HEAVY fastball pitcher, so much so that his former catcher Elrod Hendricks said the he'd throw it about 85-90% of the time. That's really playing into my strength as my lineup, especially the 3-4-5 he'll face.

Elrod Hendricks and Earl Weaver are not Josh Gibson and John McGraw, who are both very intimidating leaders. Palmer won't be calling his own pitches....and he's not the ace of this staff, however, I think he is one of the better #2 starters in the draft. There are many HOF pitchers predominantly known for their fastball, Drysdale, for example.

Pwnasaurus · 04-23-2013, 07:29 AM

I am a fan of my rotation being setup for this series with the following matchups:

Game 1: Paige vs Halladay
Game 2: Palmer vs Drysdale
Game 3: Pierce vs Martinez
Game 4: Ciccote vs Rixey

We can also go Paige vs Rixey if necessary depending on the texture of the series...

With the top 3 pitchers on the Cubs being right handed, I think Reggie gets a boost to his already well documented post season bump.

I see our 1-4 in the order as different but I would not say there is a distinct advantage either way. Mine is built more of table setter-contact-multifaceted-power 1-4 whereas the Cubs have more #3 hitters throughout their 1-4.

I see an advantage in the Crawfords 5-8 part of the order where having the luxury of my C, 3B bat higher in the order allows some OF/1B run producers and power/speed players to populate the bottom of the order lengthening the lineup tremendously.

I think both teams are well balanced and I would not call either side's victory an upset IMO.

Pwnasaurus · 04-23-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman

Since my series ended in 4 games, Pedro pitched twice, but there's rest inbetween. Would he be able to go in game 2 or 3?

Game 2 would probably be 3 days rest and since we are talking about a pitcher who was averaging about 6.6 innings per start over his career and a pitcher whose ERA tripled when his pitch count exceeded 100...I think some extra rest would be helpful.

MurrayBannerman · 04-23-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pwnasaurus

Elrod Hendricks and Earl Weaver are not Josh Gibson and John McGraw, who are both very intimidating leaders. Palmer won't be calling his own pitches....and he's not the ace of this staff, however, I think he is one of the better #2 starters in the draft. There are many HOF pitchers predominantly known for their fastball, Drysdale, for example.

By deviating from that, at least extensively, you're playing away from Palmer's strength though. It still plays into my 3-4-5's strength by emphasizing his lesser stuff. If not, they're three guys who see the ball incredibly well and are not easily attacked with fastballs (See Lidge, Brad).

Pwnasaurus · 04-23-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman

By deviating from that, at least extensively, you're playing away from Palmer's strength though. It still plays into my 3-4-5's strength by emphasizing his lesser stuff. If not, they're three guys who see the ball incredibly well and are not easily attacked with fastballs (See Lidge, Brad).

That was a hanging slider...we'll tell our staff not to do that

MurrayBannerman · 04-23-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pwnasaurus

That was a hanging slider...we'll tell our staff not to do that

Derp, oh well. Point is, my lineup is either pushing Palmer from his game or playing into my strength. That'll pose a problem for him.

Pwnasaurus · 04-23-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman

Derp, oh well. Point is, my lineup is either pushing Palmer from his game or playing into my strength. That'll pose a problem for him.

Location, location, location. He's a Top 25 pitcher all-time IMO, between him, the best catcher to ever live and arguably the greatest manager, it would be likely they would be able to locate pitches well as well as change speeds on the fastball as your link indicates. Everyone in baseball history can hit a fastball to some degree and most HOF batters you would say would crush them consistently, yet Palmer had a HOF career.

Walter Johnson threw fastballs literally 100% of the time.

MurrayBannerman · 04-23-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pwnasaurus

Location, location, location. He's a Top 25 pitcher all-time IMO, between him, the best catcher to ever live and arguably the greatest manager, it would be likely they would be able to locate pitches well as well as change speeds on the fastball as your link indicates. Everyone in baseball history can hit a fastball to some degree and most HOF batters you would say would crush them consistently, yet Palmer had a HOF career.

Walter Johnson threw fastballs literally 100% of the time.

And it can work just fine, but I'm saying that it plays into my strength. Palmer matches up well with a lot of players, but I think my lineup provides a unique matchup for him, particularly my 3-4-5, that poses a real problem.