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02-20-2013, 03:36 PM
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Me likey. So much versatility...you'll be the first to use him as an SP I believe which is cool.
And I can use him at 2B if need be. Which gives me more versatility when assembling my bench.

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Milwaukee Braves trade picks 224 and 257 to

Newark Eagles for 234 and 247

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02-20-2013, 03:43 PM
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Confirmed, I'll make my pick in just a few minutes.

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02-20-2013, 04:06 PM
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Newark selects CF Andruw Jones



.254/.337/.486
434 homeruns
1289 RBI
5x All-Star
10x Gold Glove winner
59.5 WAR (tied for 101st all time among batters)

Jones would be a worthy pick at this stage for his historically elite defense alone, but this is a guy who's also averaged 32 home runs a year throughout his career (with a peak of 51 during his Hank Aaron Award winning 2005.) I'm thrilled that I was able to trade up and grab him to round out my starting lineup -- no way he would've lasted 10 more picks.

Giants are on the clock.

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02-20-2013, 04:25 PM
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Andruw Jones is really tough to gauge. I remember last year I was having some drinks at the bar with my ball team and asked them if there was a player with 500 homer uns and 10 gold gloves would he be a first ballot hall of famer and it was pretty unanimous that yes, he would be. Then I mentioned that if Andruw Jones playes for another 3-4 years, he would be that guy. Then the conversation got to him not even getting enough votes for him to stay on the ballot.

He was so good at so young an age and then just fell off a cliff (probably the same cliff Griffey fell off - maybe they were hiking together). I think that fact that we all witnessed the drop off, we tend to unfairly judge him when we don't judge older players in the same way. Dizzy Dean had a handful of great years and then did nothing and everyone seems to love him. There's many other examples like that thoughout baseball history that tend to go unnoticed for the most part.

But I like the Jones pick here, more for the defense, than the offense.

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02-20-2013, 04:36 PM
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The guy I almost selected over Beltran.
I wish you did.

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02-20-2013, 04:38 PM
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Andruw Jones is really tough to gauge. I remember last year I was having some drinks at the bar with my ball team and asked them if there was a player with 500 homer uns and 10 gold gloves would he be a first ballot hall of famer and it was pretty unanimous that yes, he would be. Then I mentioned that if Andruw Jones playes for another 3-4 years, he would be that guy. Then the conversation got to him not even getting enough votes for him to stay on the ballot.

He was so good at so young an age and then just fell off a cliff (probably the same cliff Griffey fell off - maybe they were hiking together). I think that fact that we all witnessed the drop off, we tend to unfairly judge him when we don't judge older players in the same way. Dizzy Dean had a handful of great years and then did nothing and everyone seems to love him. There's many other examples like that thoughout baseball history that tend to go unnoticed for the most part.

But I like the Jones pick here, more for the defense, than the offense.
I think your point about witnessing the dropoff is exactly right. As a Yankees fan I saw Fat Andruw struggling to cover left field, and it was hard to remember that he used to be one of the best defensive centerfielders in history. Plus, he got a lot of heat for completely flaming out LA which will be forgotten in a few years. History will judge him kinder than we do.

On a related note, I'm very surprised by how recent my team has turned out to be (so far I've got Jones, A-Rod, Rolen, Bagwell, and Cone from recent years) -- it wasn't my strategy at all coming into the draft.

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02-20-2013, 04:39 PM
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Chicago White sox select CF Dale Murphy.
1982 and 1983 MVP

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02-20-2013, 05:57 PM
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I will take an active second baseman who has built up quite a career already. With three years straight of being top-6 in MVP voting..2B - Robinson Cano.



* 4x All-Star
* 2x Gold Glove Winner
* 4x Silver Slugger Winner
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02-20-2013, 07:46 PM
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I will take
NY Giants are still on the clock. That last pick was the Sox missed pick.

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02-20-2013, 07:49 PM
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I think you jumped the gun a pick early, but no big deal.
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The New York Giants select P Vic Willis.


  • 1995 Hall of Fame inductee
  • 1909 World Series Champion (Pittsburgh Pirates)
  • Career 2.63 ERA, 117 ERA+
  • Led NL is Complete Games twice - 45 CGs in 1902 the most since 1900
  • 388 career CGs - 19th all-time
  • 50 career SOs - 19th all-time
  • Career 62.7 WAR - 38th all-time among pitchers


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02-20-2013, 09:11 PM
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Willis is a really good pick. Was going to take him next.

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02-21-2013, 12:55 AM
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The Worcester Worcesters select.....



Gary Gaetti

Batting average 255
Home runs 360
Runs batted in 1,341


2 All-Star (1988, 1989)
World Series champion (1987)
4 Gold Glove Award (1986, 1987, 1988, 1989)
Silver Slugger Award (1995)
ALCS MVP (1987)

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02-21-2013, 01:47 AM
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My bad, didn't realize.

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02-21-2013, 07:07 AM
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The Pittsburgh Crawfords are pleased to select one of the more glaring BBHOF omissions, SP - Billy Pierce. Pierce was one of the most overpowering pitchers of the 1950's, combining a hard fastball with an over the top curve. Upon retirement, Pierce ranked 15th in career strikeouts and his K/9 ratio was the highest of the 1950's, of the top 10 list of career strikeouts by left handed pitchers (at retirement), he is the only one not in the HOF. Unfortunately his White Sox ran into the Yankees several times during his peak, however, in 5 World Series appearances he posted an ERA of 1.89. It has been projected that he would have won 2 Cy Young Awards (1953 and 1956) had the award been given out to both leagues at the time. He's a solid #3 for the Crawfords in this format especially pitching from the left side as lefties hit only .227 lifetime against him.

- 6 Times Top 5 in WAR (pitchers)
- Led League in WAR (pitchers) Twice
- 4 Times Top 5 in ERA (Led League in 1955)
- 4 Times Top 5 in Wins (Led League in 1957)
- 6 Times Top 5 in Strikeouts (Led League in 1953)

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02-21-2013, 10:21 AM
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Pierce is an awesome pick at this stage. One of the first true post-WWII power pitchers.

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02-21-2013, 12:06 PM
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Brooklyn selects Wilbur "Bullet" Rogan, SP/OF.

Winningest pitcher in Negro league history, and 4th all time in career batting average.

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02-21-2013, 12:33 PM
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With the 230th overall pick in the 2013 HFBoards All-Time Draft the Montreal Expos are pleased to select, from Woodrow Wilson High School in Long Beach, California, a native of San Bernardino, California SP Robert Granville Lemon.



One of the most talented starters of the post-WWII era Lemon won 207 games against just 128 losses during a career that spanned thirteen seasons spent entirely with the Cleveland Indians. The fan favourite hit the coveted twenty win mark on seven occasions over a nine year span and led the AL in victories three times. Three times he was named The Sporting News AL Pitcher of the Year, three times he led the AL in games started, five times in complete games, and four times in innings pitched. In 1950 Lemon also took home the strikeout crown.

A member of the vaunted 1948 Indians world champions, Lemon was also a key cog on the pennant-winning 1954 squad that won 111 games before falling to the New York Giants in the World Series. A seven-time All-Star, Lemon missed three seasons as a result of his military service in the Second Workd War. His counting statistics would have been undoubtedly higher were it not for his service in the Armed Forces. Nonetheless he was top five in the MVP voting three times and top ten on three other occasions. Several sources award him three retroactive AL Cy Young Awards for his 1948, 1950, and 1954 campaigns.

*207-128 career record
*3.23 career ERA
*119 career adjusted ERA
*.618 career winning percentage
*7-time 20 game winner (in nine seasons)
*3-time league leader in games started
*4-time league leader in innings pitched
*5-time league leader in complete games
*1948 AL shutouts leader
*1948 World Series champion
*1950 AL strikeout leader
*3 top five MVP finishes, 6 top ten finishes
*3-time The Sporting News AL Pitcher of the Year Award (1948, 1950, 1954)


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02-21-2013, 12:43 PM
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With the 230th overall pick in the 2013 HFBoards All-Time Draft the Montreal Expos are pleased to select, from Woodrow Wilson High School in Long Beach, California, a native of San Bernardino, California SP Robert Granville Lemon.
Nice. He was on my shortlist for my next pick.

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02-21-2013, 06:07 PM
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Cleveland Indians once again dip into their own history...


SP Stan Coveleski

127 ERA+
6 times top 3 in pitching WAR, 7 times top 5, 9 times top 10
1920 WAR leader (pitchers)
0.2 HR/9
2 time AL Pitching Champ (1923, 1925)
55.8 Career WAR
1920 World Series Champion
2.89 Career ERA

Stan Coveleski is one of the all time greats and I really consider him a steal at this point in the draft. Aside from a career of dominance one particular year stands out. Coveleski absolutely dominated the 1920 World Series in a way that nobody should. The Indians won the best of 9 series 5 games to 2, but it was Coveleski that was the difference. He took the mound 3 times that series going 3-0 with 3 complete games, surrendering a mere 2 ER and 2 walks, including a complete game shutout in the decisive game 7.

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02-21-2013, 11:40 PM
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Anybody else in favor of a rule where you get auto skipped if you have already been skipped a few times? This draft is going painfully slow.

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02-21-2013, 11:47 PM
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Well it would understandably be nice if people paid just a little more attention to where they sit in terms of the selections and whether they are coming up in a few picks or not. Nonetheless, some people prefer a more slow, relaxed approach to the draft. This is my first time participating in the format and I would prefer a bit of a quicker pace, but I'm not going to rock the boat too much if other posters are perfectly fine with how things are proceeding.

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02-22-2013, 01:15 AM
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Well I think it's been the same posters who have missed picks. If your schedule doesn't allow you to be on all the time that's fine, but at this point, if your missing picks I think you should just send a list in.

Or every time your skipped, your time limit is 1 hour less.

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02-22-2013, 02:42 AM
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I think the biggest problem with the draft is the inconsistency of the picks. The bottom of the draft is just "BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM." One pick taken after another.

Meanwhile the top half of the draft is like a tortoise riding a snail across the road.

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Kidline's time is up? Correct?

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