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02-23-2013, 09:38 AM
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233 - New York Yankees select - RP Tom 'The Terminator' Henke

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Smith and Henke will form a formidable due at the back end.
I've just been lurking this thread, but "New York Yankees" and "Tom Henke" do not belong in the same sentence EVER.

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02-23-2013, 10:51 AM
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The Toronto Blue Jays are pleased to select, one of the top 10-15 closers of all time;


John Franco


P: Nolan Ryan
P: Mike Mussina
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02-23-2013, 11:02 AM
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I'm ready to pick if we're going to skip papershoes again.

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02-23-2013, 11:39 AM
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I'm ready to pick if we're going to skip papershoes again.
go ahead - I'll make both my picks tonight

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02-23-2013, 11:54 AM
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The Chicago Cubs Select RP Troy Percival



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02-23-2013, 12:01 PM
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My options for reliever/closer boiled down to percival vs. franco.

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why are there so many rounds to the draft? my roster is full with exception to a 5th pitcher and manager

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02-23-2013, 12:09 PM
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why are there so many rounds to the draft? my roster is full with exception to a 5th pitcher and manager
Bench & rest of bullpen

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02-23-2013, 12:21 PM
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why are there so many rounds to the draft? my roster is full with exception to a 5th pitcher and manager
Because it's the true mark of the most effective talent evaluators to be able to win after the obvious spots have been filled.

A deeper pool is far more challenging, not to mention realistic. There aren't 12 or 13 man rosters in baseball in real life. Why not use the full 25 man standard team rosters?

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02-23-2013, 12:36 PM
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so we'll be drafting bench players as well. ok...

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02-23-2013, 12:42 PM
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so we'll be drafting bench players as well. ok...
It's a 26 round draft..

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I'm going to draft 15 starting pitchers. Want to be well rested for the playoffs.

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02-23-2013, 02:02 PM
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02-23-2013, 03:50 PM
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Because it's the true mark of the most effective talent evaluators to be able to win after the obvious spots have been filled.

A deeper pool is far more challenging, not to mention realistic. There aren't 12 or 13 man rosters in baseball in real life. Why not use the full 25 man standard team rosters?
In real life there aren't teams comprised entirely of the greatest of all time either. My issue isn't so much with the bench, moreso the bullpen. After 2, maybe 3 relievers that should be enough. The fact of the matter is most of the guys we draft in the bullpen would never be used with the makeup of these teams.

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02-23-2013, 06:22 PM
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In real life there aren't teams comprised entirely of the greatest of all time either. My issue isn't so much with the bench, moreso the bullpen. After 2, maybe 3 relievers that should be enough. The fact of the matter is most of the guys we draft in the bullpen would never be used with the makeup of these teams.
Against the greatest hitters of all-time? The pitchers may be great, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion to assume that teams would be dipping into their bullpens a little more having to face Ruth, Williams, Mays, etc. on a regular basis.

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02-23-2013, 06:31 PM
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Against the greatest hitters of all-time? The pitchers may be great, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion to assume that teams would be dipping into their bullpens a little more having to face Ruth, Williams, Mays, etc. on a regular basis.
I still think its doubtful, especially since the proliferation of bullpen pitchers is a relatively recent phenomenon.

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I still think its doubtful, especially since the proliferation of bullpen pitchers is a relatively recent phenomenon.
I guess with the time periods it's all pretty relative, IMO. I don't think the 19th century players are going to distract the ump and run across the diamond going first to third, etc.

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02-23-2013, 06:56 PM
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I guess with the time periods it's all pretty relative, IMO. I don't think the 19th century players are going to distract the ump and run across the diamond going first to third, etc.
Yours might not!

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02-23-2013, 06:58 PM
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I still think its doubtful, especially since the proliferation of bullpen pitchers is a relatively recent phenomenon.
Given that a lot of these players played in non-integrated time periods that excluded the most talented Hispanic and black players, played in a time with dead balls, lower/higher mounds, and various other rule changes, I think complaining about the number of bullpen pitchers is a little unnecessary.

Hell, we've had multiple spitballers taken thus far and there are a few talented ones still remaining on the board, and that's an illegal pitch (and has been for ninety years).

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02-23-2013, 07:31 PM
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Given that a lot of these players played in non-integrated time periods that excluded the most talented Hispanic and black players, played in a time with dead balls, lower/higher mounds, and various other rule changes, I think complaining about the number of bullpen pitchers is a little unnecessary.

Hell, we've had multiple spitballers taken thus far and there are a few talented ones still remaining on the board, and that's an illegal pitch (and has been for ninety years).
My objection was not based on trying to reach some sort of congruency by matching time periods, I just felt that drafting such large bullpens is unnecessary at won't impact the results at all.

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02-23-2013, 11:14 PM
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My objection was not based on trying to reach some sort of congruency by matching time periods, I just felt that drafting such large bullpens is unnecessary at won't impact the results at all.
I might be biased because I like a deeper pool of talent and more picks, but I honestly think that some teams could be so evenly matched that the end result might just come down to more effectively-structured bullpens. There are some very notable names that remain on the board that threw a lot of quality innings and had a measurable impact on games when they played despite not being starters. I seriously doubt that anyone will be taking these little one-batter specialists that are so prevalent today.

Sparky Lyle, for instance, is an excellent pick, as much of his value was derived form pitching multiple innings when he was called upon in relief in high-pressure situations.

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I've just been lurking this thread, but "New York Yankees" and "Tom Henke" do not belong in the same sentence EVER.
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